[ARCHIVED THREAD] - GLOCK vs XD? (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/26/2006 11:31:51 PM EDT
| So i want to get a new handgun, and im thinking GLOCK but i've heard some really good things about the new XDs, which are pretty competitivly priced. What do you guys think? |
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I owned a service model and a sub both .40 for about a year. The entire time I owned them I was NEVER once able to fire an entire magazine with out a jam. I tried different ammo, nose shapes, spring weights and even sent the service back to S.A. to have them check it out because it got so bad. They were never reliable even though I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt. I sold them both and from now on will stick to Glock or HK for polymer pistols. I don't know about the new ones but the old ones rusted like a mo fo too which drove me nuts. |
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I have both. XDs need to be duracoated or something similar or they will rust. Advantage Glock. The sight on the XD are great. Adjustable front and rear. Steel instead of plastic. Advantage XD. The mags on the XD can be problematic. The feed lips need to be shaped just right to be reliable. Glocks are basically always uniform. Advantage Glock. Tons of aftermarket accessories for the Glock. Many can detract from the utter reliability, but if any piece of a Glock isn't to your tastes, replacement options abound. Advantage Glock. To me, the XD feels like the grip angle of the CZ-75. I love the way both feel. Each size Glock feels different in the hand. The 19, 23, etc. are basically perfect in my hands. Advantage XD. If the gun is for fighting, go Glock. Reliability and durability are paramount. It is tough to beat a Glock on these counts. If the gun is for fun, I have an XD service in .40 that is a total tack driver. Way better than my Glocks. I love shooting it at and nailing little targets with it, but it will rarely feed an entire mag without a malf. My Glocks on the other hand run like freight trains. They rarely produce the ultra tight group, but I trust them implicitly. Try several examples of both. Rentals are great for this. In the end. both are supported by great companies. But, to me the Glock is still perfection for self defense. (That's an XD in my avatar by the way!  )
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I bought XD40. It had some jams with Fiocchi 170gr. The finish is not great, the finish on the grip safety wore off after two days, no shots were ever fired! I had to send it back to SA to fix the extractor. I guess they've been doing 1911 a lot, forgot to how make a reliable non 1911 extractor  I stick with my HK/GLOCK for ultra reliable performance. 4 HK's, 5 GLOCKs Never had to return one! |
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I have a XD45acp. Only 150 rounds of Wolf through it, but no malfunctions so far. Shoots point of aim at 15 yards. It's more accurate than my duty weapon (Glock 22) and feels better in my hand also. I also have a Glock 30 and love it. It's a great compact 45acp and it's my main CCW. Out of all my 45s, I have to say my favorite is the Sig 220. It's such a tack driver, even with Wolf ammo, and fits my hands like a glove. Has been 100% reliable so far. |
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i slightly prefer the glocks over the XDs recoil is a little more in the XDs, just a little; i did not like the grip safety--it should be wider; finish does suck, but they say the newer ones are a lot better; h/w, i did like its trigger contour, grip, and smoother mags over the glock |
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Never had a problem with any of the HS2000's, XD9's or XD40's that I HAD. They were accurate and nice guns, but they are big feeling for their size. I got rid of them and have considered buying one again, but won't happen until I have everything else that I want first. I now have a Glock 17 and 30 w/rail. I've had 20+ glocks in the past, and have decided to return to them for good. They do everything that is needed in a home defense/CCW pistol. The grip angle is something that is easily adjusted to, and they are very reliable/accurate self defense guns. Leave them stock, except for sights, and enjoy them. Steve |
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The superior finish on the Glocks and the plethora of aftermarket products are worth the exta bucks for a Glock. Also, the grip safety on the XD is necessary as the action on the XD is single action-ish. Whereas the fireing pin is in a rear (cocked) position which gives a lighter trigger pull. Sort of like why the 1911 needs one. The Glock doesn't need one because it is double action-ish in that the fireing pin is forward (decocked) and the trigger pulls it back and lets it go. Sort of like why Sigs don't have them as well. |
Really.......  .I like to see an XD do this....Glock Abuse...If you find an XD that has gone thru this....Let me know and I'll gladly  you
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My personal preference is the Springfield XD. Here's why... I have owned several Glock pistols (9mm and 40SW) during a period of about 13+ years, and have shot many, many 1000's of rounds through them. I am a high volume shooter. They are great guns and there is nothing wrong with them. They are very reliable and trouble free. The greatest problem for me was that most Glocks, such as the G22, never felt truly comfortable, and I found myself constantly needing to readjust my grip during shooting. Last year I shot an XD for the first time. I was amazed how cormfortable the gun felt, for me. I also quickly discovered that I could perform rapid shooting drills with better accuracy! And this was the first time shooting the XD!!! Within several months I had sold both my glocks and replaced them with an XD-9 and XD-40. The XD's have proven to me to be extremely reliable. I have many 1000's of rounds through each gun now. They are not ammo sensitive, and will reliably shoot anything that I have tried. I also really like the loaded chamber indictator and cocking indicator (that my older Glocks did not have), so that I can affirm the status of my pistol during shooting drills, without having to look at the gun. Also, I personally like the XD trigger pull better that the Glocks I used, and I can shoot them better (FASTER) during rapid fire because of this. I have found that the finish of the XD is not as durable, but that is not an issue for me. Last month I attended a 3 day Tactical Pistol class in Pittsburgh, PA at the Greater Pittsburgh Gun Club. The course instructor was Giles Stock, who is also an instructor at GunSite (his bio is listed at Gunsite.com). I shot the course with my XD-9 (about 600-700 rounds). I was very impressed with the performance of my XD-9 during this experience, in terms of reliablility, and also in terms of accuarcy during the many rapid fire shooting drills. I will continue to use XD's, not Glocks, for all my future training. Also, the instructor stated that his preference was Glocks, but he had nothing negative to say about the XD. Having much experience with both the Glock and Springfield XD, I think that the XD is a great gun. If you want to learn more about the XD, try here XD Talk |
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my uncle just bought a .40 XD last spring and completely loves it. he looked at both Glocks and Springfield handguns and went for the Springfield mainly because it fit his hand better (grip wasn't as wide/long, he's got small hands) and it's a Springfield, he wanted a US made gun. he wasn't too happy when I told him the XDs were made in Croatia  either way, he hasn't had a single complait about the gun other than that he can't conceal it very well (he lives in MN and has a CCW, bought a PPK/S to carry just a few weeks ago). i got to shoot it a little and the only thing i didn't like was just the .40 round, no complaints about the gun itself. the only things that would really make me go one way or the other in this case would be price and fit. i'd say go for whichever one will suit you the best. |
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I've liked the XD's since they were HS2000's but I never found anything they could do that my GLOCKS couldn't, so I never bought one. That changed with the XD45's. Springfield crammed 14 rounds of 45 into a pistol slightly larger than a GLOCK and I decided it was time to buy one. Couple quick observations: I've seen several XD's with rust, very few GLOCKs. Not a huge deal to me as I don't abuse my pistols, but food for thought. The trigger pull on the XD's is smoother and lighter which I like but the reset longer which I don't like. Guess you can't get somethin for nothin. The XD's are substantiall more difficult to completely disassemble than a GLOCK. Not a huge deal to most. I like to completely strip mine once a year or so and clean them. Overall I'm very happy with the XD and haven't had a probem with it yet. Replacing the factory sights with night sights is a huge pain in the ass but it's done now so I don't have to worry about it for 12 years or so. Both are plenty accurate and reliable pistols and I don't think you can go wrong with either. |
Nice review. Honest. |
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I carried an SP101 for many, many years. I had my doubts about the reliability of pistols (and still do, you can always just pull the trigger again on a wheel gun, try that with most pistols) and spent a lot of time and money renting. I really wanted a Glock, but they just don't feel right to me. I've carried an XD9 service model everyday for three years now. Its never rusted, it eats everything I feed it including my reloads and has always gone bang when I pulled the trigger. It is impossible to make the gun discharge without pulling the trigger. Period. People that don't like the grip safety probably don't like wearing a seat beat either, whatever. Its invisible in use and you quickly forget about it. I suggest you shoot both and buy what you like. As for the Glock being the uber pistol, again whatever spins your prop. Remember that for every one person you hear bashing something on the internet there are probably a thousand people who have never had a problem that don't post. YMMV |
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yeah, my friend has an XD-9 and the other has a GLOCK 9mm. The main thing i dont like about glocks is that it feels like half of a pistol. It's top heavy and the grip feels like a toy. Even when it's loaded. I dunno. Both have lifetime warrentees, pleanty of upgrades, very durable. Here's what i want. Reliability, Durability, Accurace, and Usability. from what i've heard both do all of those. i guess it comes down to what kind of a deal i can get. |
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I own a G23 and am currently in a love/hate relationship with it. I love it for all the reasons everyone else has stated. yet I hate it because I made a bad choice with mine I got the .40 which I am beginning to dislike, the serrations on the grip tear my hands up,etc I held an XD45 at the store and the grip felt excellent,great caliber,nice capacity, but over all I was displeased with it from a personal standpoint. they are backwards of each other it's almost as if it was done on purpose all the things I hate about Glock are cleaned up with the XD but all the things I love about the Glock are the issues with the XD 
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People need to keep in mind there is not one gun for every shooter. Guns are like shoes. They fit everyone differently. When discussing which firearm is above the other you cannot dicuss how it feels because that is a personal opinion and does not factor into general information. You can only judge them on things like finish, quality ,cost vs. value, etc. J |
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Hmmm.... I own 3 glocks, used to be 4 just sold one, and 2 XD's, used to be 3 just sold one, I sold the Glock 26 and the XD-9 subcompact, just don't need a small gun that's that thick in both cases. I have the XD-40 and Xd-45, also a G-19, G-17 and a G-22, the two G-21's I had I got rid of about 7 months ago in preparation for buying the XD-45. If you are looking for a 9mm I would go with the Glock, as evidenced by my personal selection above, if you want a 45 I would go with the XD-45. I love mine and even though I was happy with my Glocks, the size difference between the XD and the Glock is just too big to ignore, and that's why I went with the XD for the feel and comfort. If you want a 40, buy either, it's comletely personal preference at that point. IMHO |
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does anyone own a g21 AND an XD45? i'd be curious to find out just how much bigger the grip is on the glock. i mean sure, its bigger, but is it that much of an issue? i only wish i could find a store that had both instock at the same time. is the 21 frame the same size as the other full sized glocks? |
 someone on the xd forum did a more detailed comparison. you can also check out the SA website and see for yourselfwww.springfield-armory.com/prod-xdpstl-45acp.shtml |
I am a "Glock guy." I have owned 9 and currently own 8, the only one I parted with being a 45GAP that I had no problems with but... well, it was a 45GAP. My G19 has been my primary CCW for a dozen years now and I state confidently that something VERY special will have to come along to replace my 9mm Glocks (any of them). I've tried the 9mm XDs and they just ain't it for me. YMMV. That being said, I have 2 G21s and a G30 and recently bought an XD-45 Tactical. If the XD-45 holds up as well as it has so far, it will eventually replace the G21s for me and I will be getting more XD-45 variants. I have small hands, so YMMVVM on this one -- but the XD-45 fits me, personally, much better than the G21s or any other hi-cap 45 I have tried and it took a much shorter time with it to be able to shoot it well (learning to shoot the G21s well was a struggle for me, and I still can't shoot the G30 worth a dang.  )
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About time someone chimed in. WTF I have two XD's and 3 Glocks - So I like them both. But this bullshit about the XD being unreliable. Where is all this shit coming from. Go to Glock Talk .com You will see people with glocks have reliability issues on occasion and all be damn if some peoples glock dont have troubles feeding ammo. I have put 1500k rounds of 165 and 180 grain ammo through my XD TACTICAL and have yet to have ONE SINGLE Failure to feed or a Failure to Eject. I also have a 3" that has not had any issuees that werent ammo related. What I mean by this is one time did a bullet go Pffff.....and not eject. But that was the bullet. At first I didnt even think it left the barrel..but it did. So ammo issue aside, that one round my subby has performed FLAWLESS. So that is two XD's no problems. Btw- I havent had any issues with my Glocks either. BUT, to me, THE XD IS FAR SUPERIOR. double btw - I have retired my Glock as a carry weopon an now use my XD. Its a better gun 
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ASK AND YOU SHALL RECIEVE (*although that Glock test is off DA HOOK - Id never let my glock or XD do 85% of that  )SA-XD ACCEPTS TORTURE JUST LIKE A BLOCK (I mean Glock) |
ASK AND YOU SHALL RECIEVE (*although that Glock test is off DA HOOK - Id never let my glock or XD do 85% of that )SA-XD ACCEPTS TORTURE JUST LIKE A BLOCK (I mean Glock) Its a good begining for a test......But only 20,000 rounds....  That perticular GLOCK 21 has in excess of 150K rounds through it which just goes to show how durable the are.... ..Like Timex....Takes a lickin and keeps on tickinAnd I agree with you....Id never let my glock do that....But if you'll excuese me. My "" ""G21 has over 50,000 of various factory rounds thru it and never any issue...Some day I'll buy an XD45...I like the grip.. But when SHTF....The Glock21 will be in my hand And If I can't get me 21...Any OEM glock will do nicely |
I actually consider the grip safety on an XD a good thing especially when considering you have to depress it to chamber a round. I figure unless someone is familiar with the weapon then they can't get it to work which means if some bad guy manages to get ahold of my weapon there is a slight chance that he/she wont even know how to work it. Im not saying your opinion is wrong I am just showing how you can look at it from a positive perspective. Glocks are great guns they are reliable and accurate but leave ALOT to be desired in the feel department. XDs feel much better and I have not had a single problem with finish or reliability in the 1500 or so rounds Ive put thru my service model XD40. I dont think anyone can claim accuarcy as one being better then the other. Some might shoot a Glock or and XD better but inherently I'm pretty sure accuaracy is equal or close enuff where its not a consideration.
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OK Sorry but I think these ?'s are FOOLISH! You ask it in a Glock Forum and at least 90% of the people will say the Glock. Ask it in the S/A forum and 90% will say the XD. The Glock is time tested and proven. The XD tried to copy it with their own little spin on it. The only way you can decide what is better is to go to your local shop and rent both, see what works better for you. Just because Joe thinks a Glock is the greatest gun in the world (which it is right along with the 1911) don't think it will be the same with everyone else. Ergonomics come into play as well as many other personal things. I own 9 Glocks and would not sell them BUT I mainly carry a 1911. I just like the trigger of a 1911 MUCH more (just have never mastered the Glock trigger and I tend to slap the hell out of it in turn all of my shots end up low and left) BUT if I only could have one gun to use if the SHTF it would be a Glock as it can take more abuse than any other handgun I have seen. |
The problem I have with XD's is they are a poor copy of a Glock. Look at Sig, Beretta, and HK none of them look like each other. Why do so many Companies copy Glock's design like Smith & Wesson and Springfield Armory? They just can't admit Glock has a much better product, HANDS DOWN PERIOD! 
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| Any XD fans see adco's test??? I was and am a huge fan of Sigs(btw a better 45 than ANY gun SA makes), but after seeing that test, I went out and bought a Gen 2 19. If you want a gun because it's the newest thing and the manufacturer is spending lots of money advertising it then go with the XD. If you want a COMBAT PROVEN gun that is considered the reliability standard against which all others are judged get a Glock. Remember it's your life you're protecting, it's your choice. |
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I taught a class last weekend where we had four XD's and many more Glocks. Admittedly, our classes are hard on the students' pistols but the Glocks don't seem to mind. I've been ambivalent to the XD's until this class when ALL of them choked on the first day. I witnessed all kinds of stoppages and failures to feed and failures to fire. XD's are not as reliable as I thought they were. |
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+1 Autodog. I've owned a couple of XDs and I think the grip safety is stupid. I won't own another one. Also, weight is a major issue for me, as I have a bad neck and back. Nothing comes close to Glock's 20 oz weight. XDs and all other polymer guns I've tried are anywhere from 6 to 8 ounces heavier, and that much more makes a big difference when you have a bad neck. |
