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5/13/2005 11:44:29 PM EDT
I'm looking at getting a can for my .40 and not really sure where to start looking?  I'm new to pistol suppressors.  The main reason for looking is I want to drop the sound level while in-doors, more spcificly for entrys/building searches.  No plugs in a shoot house or actual entry can be a real bitch on the ears with the inclosed area, if ya didn't know.  Is the soud level of a suppressed .40  worth the effort that is required in addition to the money?  If not, I won't bother, but if there is a dramatic difference then I'll start the paperwork.

Oh.  can I inerchange the suppressor between the 27 and the 40?  Figure I could, they're the same gun just different sizes but thought I'd ask.

One more thing can some explain how the suppressor attaches?  Thread the barrel or what?

Thanks in advance.
5/14/2005 12:22:26 AM EDT
[#1]
I don't mean to rain on your parade, but why
use a suppressed Glock when you can get
a suppressed MP5 in Semi only. It would be an SBR.
You are a cop. I imagine your Department
should be able get one.
If you are really wanting a can for a pistol,
get a pistol designed from the ground up to
accept a can.
The HK SOCOM in .45.
Sorry I can't help further.

5/14/2005 12:32:57 AM EDT
[#2]
Don't worry about the rain.  My duty carry is a G22 so getting a can that I can just pop on would work the best.  MP5 is out of the question for more than cost issues.  I don't know anyone who makes a duty holster for it.  I don't want to buy a whole new gun (HK SOCOM)  Good gun though.    Thanks for the reply.
5/14/2005 3:42:24 AM EDT
[#3]
I'm pretty sure Advanced Armament Corp, SWR and GemTech all make cans for the .40.  AAC's Evolution series is getting some pretty good reviews, but they all make quality cans.  For your Glock you're going to need one with some kind of LID or Nielson device to ensure cycling, but they all offer this.  While there are exceptions, the most common way to attach a can is by threading the muzzle.  You will be able to switch the can between your two Glocks, assuming you thread the muzzles of each.  All of the major manufacturers cans will lower the noise to safe levels indoors, good enough so your ears don't ring after the shot, but they're still going to be pretty loud.  As for using it the way you describe, unless the entire entry team and all the bad guys are also using suppressors, I'm not really sure what it buys you.  You might be better off, and spend less money, getting a set of electronic earmuffs.  The good ones not only protect you from the blast, but actually enhance your ability to hear normal sounds.
5/14/2005 3:52:21 AM EDT
[#4]
beowulf, thanks!  You're right about the "everyone has to have one for it to do what I want" thing.  I'm hoping to start a trend with the rest of the boys.  My Gemtech Halo has been a big hit with the entry guys and hoping the pistol will catch  on!  

I don't know much about the  LID or Nielson device for the proper cycling.  Can ya fill me in?

Thanks again!
5/14/2005 4:33:59 AM EDT
[#5]
A LID (Linear Inertial Decoupler?) or Nielson device is a recoil enhancing device attached to suppressors to compensate for the weight of the can on Browning style semi-auto pistols (like your Glock).  Because the rear of the barrel needs to drop during cycling, and your addding a lot of weight to the front of the barrel, you need this to make up for it.  You don't need them on blowback or fixed barrel guns (like Beretta, as an example).   They add a bit to the OAL of the can, as well as adding cost, but eliminate the need to go to reduced power recoil springs or any of the other "tricks" sometimes recommended to get the gun to cycle with a can.  

Edited to add the link.  It's from AAC's website describing thier version of the device on their Evolution series of cans.

www.advanced-armament.com/faq/fevolution40.asp#q0