[ARCHIVED THREAD] - IWB Carry (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 10/24/2016 9:49:07 PM EDT
| Just received my G Code INCOG Eclipse IWB holster for my Glock 19 with TLR-1 HL. Made it a single clip by folding in the kydex where the other clip is supposed to go. Same thing I did with my original INCOG. Honestly carrying it with the light seems just as comfortable as it did without so I'm just wondering how many of you in Glockland carry IWB with a weapon mounted light? Do you always carry like this or do you also switch between a non light bearing from time to time? |
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| I have a designated warm months carry and cool months carry. Mainly due to daylight times. During the long days of summer I carry G26 and when the days get shorter and I'm going a lot after dark I carry my G19 w/ streamlight tlr-1. Both are holstered in t-rex arms sidecar. |
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After taking a low-light class, I realised that I much prefer a handheld light. So I just carry without a WML, whether it's appendix for carry or OWB for range/training. Carry both.... I carry a Streamlight 1L ProTac light and XC1 on my pistol. More light is for sure better. |
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3-5 o'clock, no weapon light. Having a nice pocket light is a much better alternative. I disagree. I just took a night pistol class. I use an XC1, doing drills with the weapon mounted light versus doing them with a handheld was night and day. Weapon mounted light is vastly superior, with that said I also carry a nice handheld as well. I would recommend a TLR-1 over the XC1 though. |
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I disagree. I just took a night pistol class. I use an XC1, doing drills with the weapon mounted light versus doing them with a handheld was night and day. Weapon mounted light is vastly superior, with that said I also carry a nice handheld as well. I would recommend a TLR-1 over the XC1 though. Quoted:
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3-5 o'clock, no weapon light. Having a nice pocket light is a much better alternative. I disagree. I just took a night pistol class. I use an XC1, doing drills with the weapon mounted light versus doing them with a handheld was night and day. Weapon mounted light is vastly superior, with that said I also carry a nice handheld as well. I would recommend a TLR-1 over the XC1 though. Yea, I never understood people who have trained @ night and still choose no WML. |
| I think had we asked this question a few years ago the numbers would be less than they are now. The WML market has really expanded in the past few years. Smaller lights and vastly more holsters available with the kydex revolution and people getting away from leather. Ask this question next year and the number will go up and in a few more years even higher numbers as lights get smaller and more popular. |
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Carry both.... I carry a Streamlight 1L ProTac light and XC1 on my pistol. More light is for sure better. Quoted:
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After taking a low-light class, I realised that I much prefer a handheld light. So I just carry without a WML, whether it's appendix for carry or OWB for range/training. Carry both.... I carry a Streamlight 1L ProTac light and XC1 on my pistol. More light is for sure better. I had issues with my XC1 and I also wasn't a fan of the lack of holsters. They're more abundant now, but there will never be as many options as I'd like. |
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I had issues with my XC1 and I also wasn't a fan of the lack of holsters. They're more abundant now, but there will never be as many options as I'd like. Quoted:
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After taking a low-light class, I realised that I much prefer a handheld light. So I just carry without a WML, whether it's appendix for carry or OWB for range/training. Carry both.... I carry a Streamlight 1L ProTac light and XC1 on my pistol. More light is for sure better. I had issues with my XC1 and I also wasn't a fan of the lack of holsters. They're more abundant now, but there will never be as many options as I'd like. No problems with mine other than the carbon build up after range trips on the light lens. I only need one holster so many options is not a concern for me as I have two holsters for it already that I like. Only complaint is the placement of the always on switch it took some getting used to. |
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I disagree. I just took a night pistol class. I use an XC1, doing drills with the weapon mounted light versus doing them with a handheld was night and day. Weapon mounted light is vastly superior, with that said I also carry a nice handheld as well. I would recommend a TLR-1 over the XC1 though. Quoted:
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3-5 o'clock, no weapon light. Having a nice pocket light is a much better alternative. I disagree. I just took a night pistol class. I use an XC1, doing drills with the weapon mounted light versus doing them with a handheld was night and day. Weapon mounted light is vastly superior, with that said I also carry a nice handheld as well. I would recommend a TLR-1 over the XC1 though. Why, the XC1 looks to be much smaller and still puts out 200 lumens. Aside from costing twice as much, what is not to like? |
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Yea, I never understood people who have trained @ night and still choose no WML. Quoted:
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3-5 o'clock, no weapon light. Having a nice pocket light is a much better alternative. I disagree. I just took a night pistol class. I use an XC1, doing drills with the weapon mounted light versus doing them with a handheld was night and day. Weapon mounted light is vastly superior, with that said I also carry a nice handheld as well. I would recommend a TLR-1 over the XC1 though. Yea, I never understood people who have trained @ night and still choose no WML. Unless it was pitch black, my tritium sites worked really well. I do see the value in a light mounted to a pistol, but that means a light and new holsters. |
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Unless it was pitch black, my tritium sites worked really well. I do see the value in a light mounted to a pistol, but that means a light and new holsters. Quoted:
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Yea, I never understood people who have trained @ night and still choose no WML. Unless it was pitch black, my tritium sites worked really well. I do see the value in a light mounted to a pistol, but that means a light and new holsters. My tritium sights are terrible at target identification and illumination. 
Ever done night FoF? You'd be absolutely dominated like a used whore with a loose sphincter without a WML. |
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My tritium sights are terrible at target identification and illumination.
Ever done night FoF? You'd be absolutely dominated like a used whore with a loose sphincter without a WML. Quoted:
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Yea, I never understood people who have trained @ night and still choose no WML. Unless it was pitch black, my tritium sites worked really well. I do see the value in a light mounted to a pistol, but that means a light and new holsters. My tritium sights are terrible at target identification and illumination.
Ever done night FoF? You'd be absolutely dominated like a used whore with a loose sphincter without a WML. I see you've met my girlfriend. 
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My tritium sights are terrible at target identification and illumination.
Ever done night FoF? You'd be absolutely dominated like a used whore with a loose sphincter without a WML. Quoted:
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Yea, I never understood people who have trained @ night and still choose no WML. Unless it was pitch black, my tritium sites worked really well. I do see the value in a light mounted to a pistol, but that means a light and new holsters. My tritium sights are terrible at target identification and illumination.
Ever done night FoF? You'd be absolutely dominated like a used whore with a loose sphincter without a WML. Like I said, I see the value of a WML over a flash light. The main advantage of the WML is it gives you an extra hand for reloading, retention etc. The advantage of the flash light, you don't have to draw and point your pistol at someone before establishing them as a threat. The vast majority of the time the street lights are bright enough at night to identify people. The other issue is I can't mount one on my Sig P290 RS so I could only do this with the G19. I know, "get both" and I will likely do so now that Crossbreed has some options for WML's. |
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Like I said, I see the value of a WML over a flash light. The main advantage of the WML is it gives you an extra hand for reloading, retention etc. The advantage of the flash light, you don't have to draw and point your pistol at someone before establishing them as a threat. The vast majority of the time the street lights are bright enough at night to identify people. The other issue is I can't mount one on my Sig P290 RS so I could only do this with the G19. I know, "get both" and I will likely do so now that Crossbreed has some options for WML's. FYI, that's a myth. Light doesn't work that way. Science and shit.  That said, I carry a pocket flashlight for administrative stuff.
I get your point, it's a pain to set up that way and you probably won't need it. The problem is that gunfights have a habit of happening on a day when you do need it, in a way you aren't ready for, during a week when you're operating at 40% mental capacity because your wife is on her rag. Work is being a pain in the ass, and the road you broke down on has no street lights. So, that's what I'm planning for, but I see how it's easy to dismiss. YMMV |
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FYI, that's a myth. Light doesn't work that way. Science and shit. That said, I carry a pocket flashlight for administrative stuff.
I get your point, it's a pain to set up that way and you probably won't need it. The problem is that gunfights have a habit of happening on a day when you do need it, in a way you aren't ready for, during a week when you're operating at 40% mental capacity because your wife is on her rag. Work is being a pain in the ass, and the road you broke down on has no street lights. So, that's what I'm planning for, but I see how it's easy to dismiss. YMMV Quoted:
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Like I said, I see the value of a WML over a flash light. The main advantage of the WML is it gives you an extra hand for reloading, retention etc. The advantage of the flash light, you don't have to draw and point your pistol at someone before establishing them as a threat. The vast majority of the time the street lights are bright enough at night to identify people. The other issue is I can't mount one on my Sig P290 RS so I could only do this with the G19. I know, "get both" and I will likely do so now that Crossbreed has some options for WML's. FYI, that's a myth. Light doesn't work that way. Science and shit. That said, I carry a pocket flashlight for administrative stuff.
I get your point, it's a pain to set up that way and you probably won't need it. The problem is that gunfights have a habit of happening on a day when you do need it, in a way you aren't ready for, during a week when you're operating at 40% mental capacity because your wife is on her rag. Work is being a pain in the ass, and the road you broke down on has no street lights. So, that's what I'm planning for, but I see how it's easy to dismiss. YMMV I find this interesting, the dept my youngest works for will not allow pistol mounted lights, due to the fact a few years back an officer used his as a flashlight and got called in on. He pointed it at a person.. 
Instead of proper training, the knee-jerk reaction to do away with pistol lights won. 
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I find this interesting, the dept my youngest works for will not allow pistol mounted lights, due to the fact a few years back an officer used his as a flashlight and got called in on. He pointed it at a person..
Instead of proper training, the knee-jerk reaction to do away with pistol lights won. That's a shame, but it's not uncommon. One of the SWAT teams in my AO was disbanded completely due to a minor discrepancy in the deployment policy. The people making the decisions aren't beat cops or door kickers, they're risk averse politicians. |
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FYI, that's a myth. Light doesn't work that way. Science and shit. That said, I carry a pocket flashlight for administrative stuff.
I get your point, it's a pain to set up that way and you probably won't need it. The problem is that gunfights have a habit of happening on a day when you do need it, in a way you aren't ready for, during a week when you're operating at 40% mental capacity because your wife is on her rag. Work is being a pain in the ass, and the road you broke down on has no street lights. So, that's what I'm planning for, but I see how it's easy to dismiss. YMMV Quoted:
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Like I said, I see the value of a WML over a flash light. The main advantage of the WML is it gives you an extra hand for reloading, retention etc. The advantage of the flash light, you don't have to draw and point your pistol at someone before establishing them as a threat. The vast majority of the time the street lights are bright enough at night to identify people. The other issue is I can't mount one on my Sig P290 RS so I could only do this with the G19. I know, "get both" and I will likely do so now that Crossbreed has some options for WML's. FYI, that's a myth. Light doesn't work that way. Science and shit. That said, I carry a pocket flashlight for administrative stuff.
I get your point, it's a pain to set up that way and you probably won't need it. The problem is that gunfights have a habit of happening on a day when you do need it, in a way you aren't ready for, during a week when you're operating at 40% mental capacity because your wife is on her rag. Work is being a pain in the ass, and the road you broke down on has no street lights. So, that's what I'm planning for, but I see how it's easy to dismiss. YMMV You don't have to line your sites up on their COM, but to bounce light off the ground at them, you will have drawn, and pointed in their general direction. If I do that, I need to be able to articulate a reason why I am threatening them with deadly force. As a non-cop, I don't get to do the low ready, "just in case". I have to carry the flashlight anyway to clean up after the dogs. ETA, Having a WML is a good thing all things being equal. |
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I find it hard to take someone seriously if they aren't carrying a WML. But that's pretty harsh, I remember when I didn't know any better either.
I was all over the XC1 when it got released. It was so easy to carry IWB that I thought I could carry more light. So I just transitioned to the TLR1 HL. And so far I love it. Really doesn't feel much larger IWB and it's a very powerful light. My setup is a Glock 19, TLR1 HL, IWB, bravo concealment BCA with RCS wings, struts and soft loops carried at 3:30. Very comfortable and high performing setup for me. |
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I had issues with my XC1 and I also wasn't a fan of the lack of holsters. They're more abundant now, but there will never be as many options as I'd like. Quoted:
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After taking a low-light class, I realised that I much prefer a handheld light. So I just carry without a WML, whether it's appendix for carry or OWB for range/training. Carry both.... I carry a Streamlight 1L ProTac light and XC1 on my pistol. More light is for sure better. I had issues with my XC1 and I also wasn't a fan of the lack of holsters. They're more abundant now, but there will never be as many options as I'd like. What issues did you experience? I've had mine for a few months, & it's worked great. |