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2/7/2016 2:35:39 AM EDT
I just picked up a new Glock 19 from my local dealer. It is one of the Lipsey's gray ones with the gray Cerakote. The question that I have is that I have measured the trigger pull at almost 9lb. I swapped the trigger bar out for a glock factory 3.5lb and it has not made any difference. I ended up taking the full trigger mechanism out of a Glock 17 and dropped it into the 19. In the 17, that same trigger is breaking at 4lb. However, when dropped into the 19 it is still breaking at almost 9lb. I am wondering if anyone has any ideas why the trigger would be breaking so heavy.
2/7/2016 2:56:20 AM EDT
[#1]
What connector and reset spring are in the pistol.

A "+" connector and NY1 or NY2 can yield a heavy trigger.  The trigger bar does not determine the weight it is a combination of springs and connector.
2/7/2016 1:00:30 PM EDT
[#2]
Sorry for the mix up in terminology. The connector is the part that I swapped out. I swapped it out for one of the 3.5lb factory Glock ones that I installed. When I get home I will check the markings on it. The thing that confuses me is that I used a scale to measure the trigger pull and that didn't change it at all.
2/7/2016 1:15:36 PM EDT
[#3]
Did you install the reset spring correctly?
2/7/2016 1:19:56 PM EDT
[#4]
As the previous poster said, you need to check the trigger spring.  
If it's olive it's NY1, 8 lbs.   If it's orange its NY2, 11 lbs.

http://www.glockstore.com/glock-trigger-spring-ny-1-olive

http://www.glockstore.com/glock-trigger-spring-ny-2-orange

If you see either of those,  you need to swap it out for a stock Glock spring:
http://www.glockstore.com/glock-trigger-spring

2/7/2016 3:36:42 PM EDT
[#5]
I will be home in an hour and a half and I am going to take a close look at that.
2/7/2016 4:39:49 PM EDT
[#6]
If, by "full trigger mechanism", you mean the trigger bar, trigger housing, connector, and trigger spring, then the only other variables would be the striker assembly and the striker safety plunger / spring.  You should be able to swap all of these parts between the guns to see what's causing the heavy trigger in the 19.

You did remember to lube the interfaces between the trigger bar and connector after swapping parts around, right?
2/7/2016 5:51:20 PM EDT
[#7]
Check the channel liner.  If they baked it with the liner in, it could be deformed and dragging on the striker.
2/7/2016 6:00:10 PM EDT
[#8]
Have you even shot it yet before changing stuff?
2/8/2016 1:05:32 AM EDT
[#9]
Update. All parts were factory standard and it did not have any of the NY trigger parts. I have been tinkering with it and at this point have run the slide and dry fired the pistol several times. I can say that it has defiantly loosened up. It is no longer breaking at about 9lb and is no breaking in the 5lb range and feels exactly like the triggers on all my other Glocks. I am wondering if something on the gun had not been finished correctly and running the gun through several function cycles allowed it to wear itself in. Anyway, it is behaving exactly the way I would expect it to behave.
2/8/2016 9:46:46 AM EDT
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Update. All parts were factory standard and it did not have any of the NY trigger parts. I have been tinkering with it and at this point have run the slide and dry fired the pistol several times. I can say that it has defiantly loosened up. It is no longer breaking at about 9lb and is no breaking in the 5lb range and feels exactly like the triggers on all my other Glocks. I am wondering if something on the gun had not been finished correctly and running the gun through several function cycles allowed it to wear itself in. Anyway, it is behaving exactly the way I would expect it to behave.
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It sounds like the gun was not properly lubricated.  I have had Glocks go dry and it felt like metal galling when I pulled on the trigger.  When I pulled it apart, I expected to see destroyed metal between the trigger bar and the connector, that is how bad it felt.  I saw absolutely nothing wrong so I cleaned it, and put a drop of oil in all the places the owner's manual shows, and it was fine after that.
2/8/2016 10:35:15 AM EDT
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It sounds like the gun was not properly lubricated.  I have had Glocks go dry and it felt like metal galling when I pulled on the trigger.  When I pulled it apart, I expected to see destroyed metal between the trigger bar and the connector, that is how bad it felt.  I saw absolutely nothing wrong so I cleaned it, and put a drop of oil in all the places the owner's manual shows, and it was fine after that.
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Update. All parts were factory standard and it did not have any of the NY trigger parts. I have been tinkering with it and at this point have run the slide and dry fired the pistol several times. I can say that it has defiantly loosened up. It is no longer breaking at about 9lb and is no breaking in the 5lb range and feels exactly like the triggers on all my other Glocks. I am wondering if something on the gun had not been finished correctly and running the gun through several function cycles allowed it to wear itself in. Anyway, it is behaving exactly the way I would expect it to behave.


It sounds like the gun was not properly lubricated.  I have had Glocks go dry and it felt like metal galling when I pulled on the trigger.  When I pulled it apart, I expected to see destroyed metal between the trigger bar and the connector, that is how bad it felt.  I saw absolutely nothing wrong so I cleaned it, and put a drop of oil in all the places the owner's manual shows, and it was fine after that.


What I have found is either 1 of two things.....
1. Incorrectly assembled
2. This one is a little more in depth because this is what sets apart the aftermarket triggers from the Glock ones.  Sometimes during the manufacturing process the Glock triggers do not get the special attention aftermarket ones get and burs and rough spots are left on the connector and trigger bar where they interface with the striker safety plunger and connector.  This is one process I do when I get a new Glock I clean up those rough spots or any burs off the parts and polish the areas where they interface.  This is the same reason a well used Glock feels leagues better than a brand new Glock.  Once the parts have time to wear together everything gets to feeling better.
2/8/2016 10:42:11 AM EDT
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What I have found is either 1 of two things.....
1. Incorrectly assembled
2. This one is a little more in depth because this is what sets apart the aftermarket triggers from the Glock ones.  Sometimes during the manufacturing process the Glock triggers do not get the special attention aftermarket ones get and burs and rough spots are left on the connector and trigger bar where they interface with the striker safety plunger and connector.  This is one process I do when I get a new Glock I clean up those rough spots or any burs off the parts and polish the areas where they interface.  This is the same reason a well used Glock feels leagues better than a brand new Glock.  Once the parts have time to wear together everything gets to feeling better.
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Update. All parts were factory standard and it did not have any of the NY trigger parts. I have been tinkering with it and at this point have run the slide and dry fired the pistol several times. I can say that it has defiantly loosened up. It is no longer breaking at about 9lb and is no breaking in the 5lb range and feels exactly like the triggers on all my other Glocks. I am wondering if something on the gun had not been finished correctly and running the gun through several function cycles allowed it to wear itself in. Anyway, it is behaving exactly the way I would expect it to behave.


It sounds like the gun was not properly lubricated.  I have had Glocks go dry and it felt like metal galling when I pulled on the trigger.  When I pulled it apart, I expected to see destroyed metal between the trigger bar and the connector, that is how bad it felt.  I saw absolutely nothing wrong so I cleaned it, and put a drop of oil in all the places the owner's manual shows, and it was fine after that.


What I have found is either 1 of two things.....
1. Incorrectly assembled
2. This one is a little more in depth because this is what sets apart the aftermarket triggers from the Glock ones.  Sometimes during the manufacturing process the Glock triggers do not get the special attention aftermarket ones get and burs and rough spots are left on the connector and trigger bar where they interface with the striker safety plunger and connector.  This is one process I do when I get a new Glock I clean up those rough spots or any burs off the parts and polish the areas where they interface.  This is the same reason a well used Glock feels leagues better than a brand new Glock.  Once the parts have time to wear together everything gets to feeling better.


My gun was correctly assembled and it is the oldest Glock I own so the parts did not have rough spots.  I had not shot it in a long time and the lube must have completely evaporated on it, probably gummed up some.  As I was dry firing, after several dry fires, the trigger became extremely mushy, heavy, and it would barely break.  I took it apart and nothing looked amiss at all.  I put the one drop of oil between the connector and the trigger bar, and it has been perfect ever since.
2/8/2016 8:18:59 PM EDT
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Check the channel liner.  If they baked it with the liner in, it could be deformed and dragging on the striker.
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