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10/4/2015 1:48:02 PM EDT
My recently purchased G19 is ejecting the cases only about an inch or two high and straight up. Does not seem to be a good thing. Has that issue been discussed and/or what is the cause/cure. Thanks in advance for all replies
10/4/2015 2:10:20 PM EDT
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My recently purchased G19 is ejecting the cases only about an inch or two high and straight up. Does not seem to be a good thing. Has that issue been discussed and/or what is the cause/cure. Thanks in advance for all replies
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gen 3 or gen 4?
if its gen4 is it an early model or a newer one?
the early gen 4s had some ejection issues. extractor tension could be an issue.
10/4/2015 7:46:06 PM EDT
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Are you shooting bunny fart loads like WWB 115Gn, Win USA, Walmart value pack? You can put Federal Champion and Blazer Brass in the same catagory.

Try some 124Gn Nato ball or 147Gn HST.
10/4/2015 7:49:24 PM EDT
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Are you shooting bunny fart loads like WWB 115Gn, Win USA, Walmart value pack? You can put Federal Champion and Blazer Brass in the same catagory.

Try some 124Gn Nato ball or 147Gn HST.
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The gun should function just fine with most if not all commercial loads. If most typical plinking ammo causes problems, the gun has a problem.
10/4/2015 9:40:00 PM EDT
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I put this in my Gen 3 Glock 19 and it pretty much fixed all my ejection issues. No more weak/brass to face crap anymore.
10/4/2015 10:07:04 PM EDT
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OP we need more info.  Ammo type, different shooter, different mag, GenX, and etc.....?
10/4/2015 11:27:37 PM EDT
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If it's a Gen 4 it's a known issue. They were trying to use gen 4 trigger housings w/ gen 3 ejectors. Since the grip was 2mm shorter it messed up the geometry of the ejector a little. Even with weak ammo it shouldn't be doing that. If you're looking at the trigger housing from the right, you should see a number stamped in it. For the Gen 4 guns it needs to be 30274, gen 3 is 336. Had this issue with mine, let me know which number and gen it is and if that isn't the issue I can do some digging.
10/5/2015 5:14:28 PM EDT
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If it's a Gen 4 it's a known issue. They were trying to use gen 4 trigger housings w/ gen 3 ejectors. Since the grip was 2mm shorter it messed up the geometry of the ejector a little. Even with weak ammo it shouldn't be doing that. If you're looking at the trigger housing from the right, you should see a number stamped in it. For the Gen 4 guns it needs to be 30274, gen 3 is 336. Had this issue with mine, let me know which number and gen it is and if that isn't the issue I can do some digging.
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Thanks all and to you. Am out of town but will post more info on return. It as Blazer Brass. It's a Gen 4
10/5/2015 5:28:11 PM EDT
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The gun should function just fine with most if not all commercial loads. If most typical plinking ammo causes problems, the gun has a problem.
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Are you shooting bunny fart loads like WWB 115Gn, Win USA, Walmart value pack? You can put Federal Champion and Blazer Brass in the same catagory.

Try some 124Gn Nato ball or 147Gn HST.


The gun should function just fine with most if not all commercial loads. If most typical plinking ammo causes problems, the gun has a problem.



Not when Glock made the pistol for Nato (124 gr) use and NATO is pretty much +p by our standards.  We're the only cheap bastards
running 115 (bunny farts). Keep shooting it and lock the slide open a whole lot at night, and it will go away. That's what
worked for my Gen 3
10/6/2015 12:58:07 PM EDT
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^ I have two early G19 Gen4's. One ejected perfectly from day one. The other one ejected very erratically. Ammo used was WWB 115gr. Fixed the problematic one by trying different stock extractors! After a few thousand rounds of WWB, it still ejects perfectly. All my Glock gen4's (G19's and G23) work great with Bunny farts! There was a problem with one, or more extractor MIM molds. If a Glock doesn't work properly with American target ammo, then there is a problem that needs to get fixed. NATO ammo can be difficult to find. What if WWB, and other similar ammo is the only ammo you can get? Put the Glock in the safe, and use a gun that reliably shoots Bunny farts?
10/6/2015 1:20:05 PM EDT
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^ I have two early G19 Gen4's. One ejected perfectly from day one. The other one ejected very erratically. Ammo used was WWB 115gr. Fixed the problematic one by trying different stock extractors! After a few thousand rounds of WWB, it still ejects perfectly. All my Glock gen4's (G19's and G23) work great with Bunny farts! There was a problem with one, or more extractor MIM molds. If a Glock doesn't work properly with American target ammo, then there is a problem that needs to get fixed. NATO ammo can be difficult to find. What if WWB, and other similar ammo is the only ammo you can get? Put the Glock in the safe, and use a gun that reliably shoots Bunny farts?
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You must have missed the part where I said it stopped after using it and locking the slide open at night. Sometimes guns are of a tighter tollerance than others.
If you call Glock they will tell you to shoot 500 rounds through the pistol before making any conclusions. I sent mine in and even had another replaced by them.
After it was done in the end I wished I would have just kept shooting the thing and waited for it to lossen up. Getting beaned in the head with empties sure does suck.
10/6/2015 2:29:30 PM EDT
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I had more than 500 rounds through it. I remember it getting worse the more rounds I fired through it, that's why I started to look for a fix. At first I replaced the recalled RSA, then I always locked the slide back when I put the gun back in the safe, which didn't help at all. I then signed up on an Austrian gun forum that has some Glock employee members. They told me to buy a few stock extractors to try out. I went ahead and ordered three Glock extractors from glockparts.com. I left a note on the order page, saying that they should send me extractors that have the number 1, 2, and 4 stamped on the little leg of the extractor. I explicitly mentioned that they should not send me extractors that have a "3" stamp on it because that's the extractor the gun came with. The first extractor I tried was the one with a #2 on it, POOF it worked! Not one shell casing ejected in a weird pattern since. I tried the #2 extractor first because the other G19 gen4, which worked flawlessly came with an #2 extractor.
10/6/2015 4:59:45 PM EDT
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Cool, I didn't know they had different extractors.  I was about to go Apex kit but mine starting working a lot better.

I also put the 30274 ejector in my gen 3. Sure was frustrating considering this was my first carry gun purchase.
10/7/2015 8:28:10 PM EDT
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So the erratic extractions are fixable? About to pick up a 19 soon and I'm worried about this.
10/7/2015 10:11:14 PM EDT
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So the erratic extractions are fixable? About to pick up a 19 soon and I'm worried about this.
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My Gen 3 19 was not fixable.  I ditched it and picked up 2 G19's with L prefixes, one OD and one with Austrian proofs.  They have been flawless.

10/8/2015 2:00:33 PM EDT
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Hmm ok I guess I'll go look at them Saturday. See if I can find any L prefixes or later. What was the recourse for the unfixable guns? Did glock make it right or were you stuck with them.
10/8/2015 8:25:10 PM EDT
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2014, and 2015 models are good to go! Haven't heard of a 19 having any ejection issues, nor any other issues in the U.S. or in Europe.
10/8/2015 8:47:19 PM EDT
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2014, and 2015 models are good to go! Haven't heard of a 19 having any ejection issues, nor any other issues in the U.S. or in Europe.
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My 34.4 was test fired last month and is a POS.
10/8/2015 9:14:40 PM EDT
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Seems hit or miss. I'll ask the GS if they have any 14/15 models.
10/10/2015 11:02:08 PM EDT
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Hmm ok I guess I'll go look at them Saturday. See if I can find any L prefixes or later. What was the recourse for the unfixable guns? Did glock make it right or were you stuck with them.
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I was in Atlanta on business so took my 19 to the factory to have an armorer look it over.  This was back in 2011 or so when the issues first surfaced.  They replaced the 336 ejector with the 30274 ejector.  This helped a little bit, but the gun still had really weak ejection and I would get an occasional stovepipe.  I tried different extractors, included a $70 Apex tactical extractor.  I tried the white sound HRED.  I just couldn't get the gun to run right so I sold it at a loss.

Ideally, you want an L prefix or earlier G19.  It seems that the first problems popped up in the M prefix guns, and then became more widespread in the R, S, and T prefix 19's.
10/11/2015 9:05:00 PM EDT
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We have had 'issues' brass to the face on the G19.2.  We tried a few different 'fixes' but none of them really changed anything.  Well while following this thread, I ordered the HRED plunger assembly.  I installed the new plunger and did a test fire.  WOW, all of the brass was ejected in the 3 o'clock position about 3-4 feet out.  After she fully recovers from her surgery, she will be ready to start shooting again.
There is some good ideas on these threads!
11/15/2015 7:09:14 PM EDT
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Thanks all and to you. Am out of town but will post more info on return. It as Blazer Brass. It's a Gen 4
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If it's a Gen 4 it's a known issue. They were trying to use gen 4 trigger housings w/ gen 3 ejectors. Since the grip was 2mm shorter it messed up the geometry of the ejector a little. Even with weak ammo it shouldn't be doing that. If you're looking at the trigger housing from the right, you should see a number stamped in it. For the Gen 4 guns it needs to be 30274, gen 3 is 336. Had this issue with mine, let me know which number and gen it is and if that isn't the issue I can do some digging.


Thanks all and to you. Am out of town but will post more info on return. It as Blazer Brass. It's a Gen 4


Well I have not been able to revisit this issue until now. Again thanks in advance for the help...

I was able to shoot the gun yesterday. Same issue. Brass tossed straight up about an inch or two. Not fun.
As you explained, Yes...I see the number 30274. The gun has maybe 200 rounds through it. It was posted that a minimum of 500 should be ran through it.
Again it is a Gen 4' serial # WTB8--, Blazer brass ammo 115 grains,.
Direction please...thanks.

11/15/2015 7:56:27 PM EDT
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Have you called Glock and got a new extractor? Part number 30274 I believe. That seems to help a lot of people with extracting problems.