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6/6/2015 12:36:44 AM EDT
So 1st of all I'm a Glock noobie, I did the polish job on my 23 and it just didn't have the impact I was expecting,
Is that what I can expect out of a Glock trigger?
6/6/2015 1:14:57 AM EDT
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Getting a 3.5 lb connector like a ghost connector is gonna make the most difference.  Between that and the polish job it should have a pretty good trigger.  Want lighter you have to change springs and such which gets into reliability.
6/6/2015 1:50:11 AM EDT
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Start reading the Glock trigger thread .
6/6/2015 2:08:29 AM EDT
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Did you put a lot of rounds through your Glock after the trigger polish?
6/6/2015 5:12:55 AM EDT
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I find it easier but more expensive to buy a trigger kit and drop it in my Glock pistols.  Instant gratification.  Or you could just put in an aftermarket connector and a spring kit.  Some connectors will give you a mushy trigger with a spring kit so be aware.
6/6/2015 8:23:27 AM EDT
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I find it easier but more expensive to buy a trigger kit and drop it in my Glock pistols.  Instant gratification.  Or you could just put in an aftermarket connector and a spring kit.  Some connectors will give you a mushy trigger with a spring kit so be aware.
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I put a ghost 3.5 in my 26 and it's awful. Mushy is a great way to describe it.

I'll never do a connector alone ever again. I'd like to try a trigger kit to put in my competition gun but I wouldn't even know where to start.
6/6/2015 8:34:44 AM EDT
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I put the lonewolf connector in my 19 and it is really nice. I didn't put the spring though, using factory.
6/6/2015 9:26:49 AM EDT
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Noobies polishing stuff have ruined more stuff than they've improved.

It's a Glock.  If you wanted a good trigger, you shoulda got a different gun.

Glock triggers can get lighter, but they never get significantly 'better'.  

I've shot all manner of competition built Glocks with Vanek, and every other kind of trigger and they're all soft and mushy.
6/6/2015 9:32:34 AM EDT
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Wrong. Very wrong. Shoot a DK trigger in a  Glock then tell me they never get signicant better. Zero pre travel, not mushy at all (in fact mine feels extremely crisp), and about 3lbs. People who think Glocks can't have good triggers haven't felt the right one yet. Period. My trigger is as close to a 1911 trigger as any striker fired gun is ever going to be without being a 1911.
6/6/2015 10:14:00 AM EDT
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Wrong. Very wrong. Shoot a DK trigger in a  Glock then tell me they never get signicant better. Zero pre travel, not mushy at all (in fact mine feels extremely crisp), and about 3lbs. People who think Glocks can't have good triggers haven't felt the right one yet. Period. My trigger is as close to a 1911 trigger as any striker fired gun is ever going to be without being a 1911.
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Glock triggers can get lighter, but they never get significantly 'better'.  



Wrong. Very wrong. Shoot a DK trigger in a  Glock then tell me they never get signicant better. Zero pre travel, not mushy at all (in fact mine feels extremely crisp), and about 3lbs. People who think Glocks can't have good triggers haven't felt the right one yet. Period. My trigger is as close to a 1911 trigger as any striker fired gun is ever going to be without being a 1911.
That youtube video i watched of someone comparing the DK to stock...is proof enough for me. That trigger is one of the best I have ever seen, in any type of gun.

 
6/6/2015 10:54:09 AM EDT
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I've polished, added a 6lb trigger spring, added a 3.5 connector and I like a trigger stop to remove the over-travel

I do not change the the striker spring over concerns of a light primer strike.
I do not change the safety spring because I am not looking to make it any lighter.

For me that setup is firm with an amount of pre-travel that I can tolerate. I have seen the screw in the frame to eliminate the pre travel but I am not doing it.

A polish job is not enough. You need to add at the least 2 more things  -  Trigger springs are like $3.99 online and $4.50 local. Connectors are $10 to $25 depending on where you shop.  

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6/6/2015 11:06:00 AM EDT
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Noobies polishing stuff have ruined more stuff than they've improved.



It's a Glock.  If you wanted a good trigger, you shoulda got a different gun.



Glock triggers can get lighter, but they never get significantly 'better'.  



I've shot all manner of competition built Glocks with Vanek, and every other kind of trigger and they're all soft and mushy.

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This is bullshit, for the record.
6/6/2015 11:52:24 AM EDT
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I put a ghost 3.5 in my 26 and it's awful. Mushy is a great way to describe it.

I'll never do a connector alone ever again. I'd like to try a trigger kit to put in my competition gun but I wouldn't even know where to start.
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I find it easier but more expensive to buy a trigger kit and drop it in my Glock pistols.  Instant gratification.  Or you could just put in an aftermarket connector and a spring kit.  Some connectors will give you a mushy trigger with a spring kit so be aware.


I put a ghost 3.5 in my 26 and it's awful. Mushy is a great way to describe it.

I'll never do a connector alone ever again. I'd like to try a trigger kit to put in my competition gun but I wouldn't even know where to start.


It is mushy because you did not change the reset spring.  I hate the stock reset spring it makes the stock trigger and the - connector have a mushy clunk feeling when the striker breaks.  It is the one thing all my Glocks have and the one thing Glock needs to consider changing as it would bring the trigger in line with the market like the VP9 and PPQ feel.
6/6/2015 11:56:54 AM EDT
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I've polished, added a 6lb trigger spring, added a 3.5 connector and I like a trigger stop to remove the over-travel

I do not change the the striker spring over concerns of a light primer strike.
I do not change the safety spring because I am not looking to make it any lighter.

For me that setup is firm with an amount of pre-travel that I can tolerate. I have seen the screw in the frame to eliminate the pre travel but I am not doing it.

A polish job is not enough. You need to add at the least 2 more things  -  Trigger springs are like $3.99 online and $4.50 local. Connectors are $10 to $25 depending on where you shop.  

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Polish job can be done with 1K of ammo.  The safety spring really does not make the trigger lighter in the second break it lightens the take up you might try it out combined with you reset and connector it does not significantly drop weight but it really makes a nice subtle difference that you might like.
6/6/2015 6:16:29 PM EDT
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Polish job can be done with 1K of ammo.  The safety spring really does not make the trigger lighter in the second break it lightens the take up you might try it out combined with you reset and connector it does not significantly drop weight but it really makes a nice subtle difference that you might like.
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I've polished, added a 6lb trigger spring, added a 3.5 connector and I like a trigger stop to remove the over-travel

I do not change the the striker spring over concerns of a light primer strike.
I do not change the safety spring because I am not looking to make it any lighter.

For me that setup is firm with an amount of pre-travel that I can tolerate. I have seen the screw in the frame to eliminate the pre travel but I am not doing it.

A polish job is not enough. You need to add at the least 2 more things  -  Trigger springs are like $3.99 online and $4.50 local. Connectors are $10 to $25 depending on where you shop.  

YMMV


Polish job can be done with 1K of ammo.  The safety spring really does not make the trigger lighter in the second break it lightens the take up you might try it out combined with you reset and connector it does not significantly drop weight but it really makes a nice subtle difference that you might like.


The last thing I read on the safety spring said it would lighten the pull (description on Midway regarding Zev spring "lighter trigger pull by reducing the friction,etc ").
I will continue to polish, the OEM parts I may hose are still cheaper than 1K of ammo even if these are the days of Romaine, Iceberg and Ranch.

I also enjoy making the changes myself and not depending on someone else's time schedule.

Thanks for your input and I may add the spring to my next order; bundle it in with some other items to save on shipping.


6/6/2015 7:03:49 PM EDT
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Wrong. Very wrong. Shoot a DK trigger in a  Glock then tell me they never get signicant better. Zero pre travel, not mushy at all (in fact mine feels extremely crisp), and about 3lbs. People who think Glocks can't have good triggers haven't felt the right one yet. Period. My trigger is as close to a 1911 trigger as any striker fired gun is ever going to be without being a 1911.
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Glock triggers can get lighter, but they never get significantly 'better'.  

Wrong. Very wrong. Shoot a DK trigger in a  Glock then tell me they never get signicant better. Zero pre travel, not mushy at all (in fact mine feels extremely crisp), and about 3lbs. People who think Glocks can't have good triggers haven't felt the right one yet. Period. My trigger is as close to a 1911 trigger as any striker fired gun is ever going to be without being a 1911.


That's right.  I shot custom 1911s for years.  Glock triggers are Glock triggers.  You think they're almost as good as a 1911, but they're not.  

It's an utterly stupid modification anyway since it has almost 0 bearing on how well a person shoots.  I don't consider a real legitimate match 1911 trigger an advantage to anything but slow fire.
6/6/2015 7:32:22 PM EDT
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That's right.  I shot custom 1911s for years.  Glock triggers are Glock triggers.  You think they're almost as good as a 1911, but they're not.  

It's an utterly stupid modification anyway since it has almost 0 bearing on how well a person shoots.  I don't consider a real legitimate match 1911 trigger an advantage to anything but slow fire.
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Glock triggers can get lighter, but they never get significantly 'better'.  

Wrong. Very wrong. Shoot a DK trigger in a  Glock then tell me they never get signicant better. Zero pre travel, not mushy at all (in fact mine feels extremely crisp), and about 3lbs. People who think Glocks can't have good triggers haven't felt the right one yet. Period. My trigger is as close to a 1911 trigger as any striker fired gun is ever going to be without being a 1911.


That's right.  I shot custom 1911s for years.  Glock triggers are Glock triggers.  You think they're almost as good as a 1911, but they're not.  

It's an utterly stupid modification anyway since it has almost 0 bearing on how well a person shoots.  I don't consider a real legitimate match 1911 trigger an advantage to anything but slow fire.

Yeah, I wonder why every pro shooter out there does trigger work to their guns? Because it overs no advantages, right? I'm not going to go into what I really think about your post since this isn't GD and I seem to get messages from mods telling me that informing people that their posts are incorrect in a sarcastic way isn't appropriate apparently.
6/6/2015 7:33:14 PM EDT
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That youtube video i watched of someone comparing the DK to stock...is proof enough for me. That trigger is one of the best I have ever seen, in any type of gun.  
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Glock triggers can get lighter, but they never get significantly 'better'.  

Wrong. Very wrong. Shoot a DK trigger in a  Glock then tell me they never get signicant better. Zero pre travel, not mushy at all (in fact mine feels extremely crisp), and about 3lbs. People who think Glocks can't have good triggers haven't felt the right one yet. Period. My trigger is as close to a 1911 trigger as any striker fired gun is ever going to be without being a 1911.
That youtube video i watched of someone comparing the DK to stock...is proof enough for me. That trigger is one of the best I have ever seen, in any type of gun.  


The video in the "official glock trigger thread" is my video.
6/6/2015 8:04:29 PM EDT
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I just installed Ghost complete spring kit in my oldest Glock 17. Not impressed. Good thing it was only $7.00.
6/6/2015 8:25:51 PM EDT
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Yeah, springs alone aren't going to make the Glock trigger all that. If you're not at least changing the connector you're not going to get a significant improvement over stock.

I've said numerous times, but IMO, the best improvement you can make for the money is a good polish job. A $5 tub of polish and a cotton rag laying around the house will make a huge difference to a Glock trigger. It varies gun to gun, but I've seen polishing alone take over a pound off the pull.
6/6/2015 9:32:05 PM EDT
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I'm not a hater of the awesome aftermarket triggers (i'm jealous) but my Gen3 19s feel great after a polish.  I do replace with a G17/34 trigger bar since I hate the serrations in the G19/26 trigger face.
6/6/2015 10:03:47 PM EDT
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Yeah, springs alone aren't going to make the Glock trigger all that. If you're not at least changing the connector you're not going to get a significant improvement over stock.
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I just installed Ghost complete spring kit in my oldest Glock 17. Not impressed. Good thing it was only $7.00.

Yeah, springs alone aren't going to make the Glock trigger all that. If you're not at least changing the connector you're not going to get a significant improvement over stock.


Already had a Lone Wolf connector. Definately a noticeable change from the stock connector. The spring kit didnt result in any noticeble improvement for me.

Update: Test fired reliable with Tula, Federal aluminum and mixed reloads with a variety of primers. No light strikes.
6/7/2015 2:28:01 AM EDT
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  This is bullshit, for the record.
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Noobies polishing stuff have ruined more stuff than they've improved.

It's a Glock.  If you wanted a good trigger, you shoulda got a different gun.

Glock triggers can get lighter, but they never get significantly 'better'.  

I've shot all manner of competition built Glocks with Vanek, and every other kind of trigger and they're all soft and mushy.

  This is bullshit, for the record.

Indeed it is
6/7/2015 5:00:44 AM EDT
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Noobies polishing stuff have ruined more stuff than they've improved.

It's a Glock.  If you wanted a good trigger, you shoulda got a different gun.

Glock triggers can get lighter, but they never get significantly 'better'.  

I've shot all manner of competition built Glocks with Vanek, and every other kind of trigger and they're all soft and mushy.

  This is bullshit, for the record.

Indeed it is


WTF?  I've installed two Zev Technologies Fulcrum Ultimate trigger kit in a couple of my Glock pistols and that are solid and crisp.  I may do a hat trick and install another one in my Glock 30 gen 3 pistol.  
6/7/2015 2:17:02 PM EDT
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Already had a Lone Wolf connector. Definately a noticeable change from the stock connector. The spring kit didnt result in any noticeble improvement for me.
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I just installed Ghost complete spring kit in my oldest Glock 17. Not impressed. Good thing it was only $7.00.

Yeah, springs alone aren't going to make the Glock trigger all that. If you're not at least changing the connector you're not going to get a significant improvement over stock.


Already had a Lone Wolf connector. Definately a noticeable change from the stock connector. The spring kit didnt result in any noticeble improvement for me.


Could be the LWD connector in my experience it is the worst feeling of all the connectors.
6/7/2015 4:02:02 PM EDT
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Could be the LWD connector in my experience it is the worst feeling of all the connectors.
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I just installed Ghost complete spring kit in my oldest Glock 17. Not impressed. Good thing it was only $7.00.

Yeah, springs alone aren't going to make the Glock trigger all that. If you're not at least changing the connector you're not going to get a significant improvement over stock.


Already had a Lone Wolf connector. Definately a noticeable change from the stock connector. The spring kit didnt result in any noticeble improvement for me.


Could be the LWD connector in my experience it is the worst feeling of all the connectors.


How would the LW connector, which was a big improvement, negate any additional improvement offered by the spring kit?