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10/8/2014 5:55:51 PM EDT
Anyone used one of these before?  Feedback?  Would you use it for everyday carry?

Thanks
10/8/2014 10:34:04 PM EDT
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Yes and yes.  It is first rate and works fine for any defensive use you have.  I used OEM Glock internals to build it up and put it on a stock frame lower.



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10/9/2014 10:59:59 AM EDT
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Yes and yes.  It is first rate and works fine for any defensive use you have.  I used OEM Glock internals to build it up and put it on a stock frame lower.

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Do the slides typically come stripped?
10/9/2014 2:35:52 PM EDT
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I like the concept, but at $480 for a stripped slide?  No thanks.
10/9/2014 4:00:09 PM EDT
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Are there any other places that do a pre milled slide for a reflex sight?  What about custom work? (how are the turn around times on these)
10/9/2014 4:05:33 PM EDT
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You pays to play or you stay on the porch.    For a NVG capable pistol it was worth it for me.

You can send your slide to be machined but the pricing isn't much different and you wait many weeks to get it there and back again.  My attention span isn't that long.

You can get the slides either stripped or with Glock OEM internals installed.
10/9/2014 4:44:14 PM EDT
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Are there any other places that do a pre milled slide for a reflex sight?  What about custom work? (how are the turn around times on these)
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Are there any other places that do a pre milled slide for a reflex sight?  What about custom work? (how are the turn around times on these)

If you want the ATOM mount, which is personally the only way I'd go due to flexibility, L&M and Robar are the 2 shops authorized to do them. ATOM is the only pistol mounting setup that can allow the use of various optics. Other custom milling or aftermarket slides become obsolete if the optics evolve. And, we're still in the early stages of pistol optic development so eventually any optic-specific milling done will obsolesce.

L&M charges:
$225 for the ATOM milling
$35 for BUIS dovetail milling
$60 for the black BUIS
$20 for cerakoting the milled areas

So they charge $340 for modifying an existing slide.

There are plenty of other places to get pre-milled or aftermarket slides.

Aftermarket:
Suarez Tactical
Unity Tactical
Zev

OEM Milled Glock:
One Source Tactical

Milling Services:
ATEI
Zev
Robar
L&M

That's off the top of my head. L&M is an outstanding reputation and probably who I would use for any sort of optic milling.
10/9/2014 4:47:40 PM EDT
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Pardon the question (I can't access their site at work), but do they make gen 4 slides?

I did a Lone Wolf 17L slide (which are gen 3) I'm satisfied enough with the fit on my gen 4 frame, but don't want the gap of a gen 3 19 slide on my gen 4 19 frame.

Thanks,
-Matt
10/9/2014 6:30:01 PM EDT
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If you want the ATOM mount, which is personally the only way I'd go due to flexibility, L&M and Robar are the 2 shops authorized to do them. ATOM is the only pistol mounting setup that can allow the use of various optics. Other custom milling or aftermarket slides become obsolete if the optics evolve. And, we're still in the early stages of pistol optic development so eventually any optic-specific milling done will obsolesce.

L&M charges:
$225 for the ATOM milling
$35 for BUIS dovetail milling
$60 for the black BUIS
$20 for cerakoting the milled areas

So they charge $340 for modifying an existing slide.

There are plenty of other places to get pre-milled or aftermarket slides.

Aftermarket:
Suarez Tactical
Unity Tactical
Zev

OEM Milled Glock:
One Source Tactical

Milling Services:
ATEI
Zev
Robar
L&M

That's off the top of my head. L&M is an outstanding reputation and probably who I would use for any sort of optic milling.
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I like the concept, but at $480 for a stripped slide?  No thanks.


Are there any other places that do a pre milled slide for a reflex sight?  What about custom work? (how are the turn around times on these)

If you want the ATOM mount, which is personally the only way I'd go due to flexibility, L&M and Robar are the 2 shops authorized to do them. ATOM is the only pistol mounting setup that can allow the use of various optics. Other custom milling or aftermarket slides become obsolete if the optics evolve. And, we're still in the early stages of pistol optic development so eventually any optic-specific milling done will obsolesce.

L&M charges:
$225 for the ATOM milling
$35 for BUIS dovetail milling
$60 for the black BUIS
$20 for cerakoting the milled areas

So they charge $340 for modifying an existing slide.

There are plenty of other places to get pre-milled or aftermarket slides.

Aftermarket:
Suarez Tactical
Unity Tactical
Zev

OEM Milled Glock:
One Source Tactical

Milling Services:
ATEI
Zev
Robar
L&M

That's off the top of my head. L&M is an outstanding reputation and probably who I would use for any sort of optic milling.


Thanks
10/9/2014 7:10:53 PM EDT
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You pays to play or you stay on the porch.    For a NVG capable pistol it was worth it for me.

You can send your slide to be machined but the pricing isn't much different and you wait many weeks to get it there and back again.  My attention span isn't that long.

You can get the slides either stripped or with Glock OEM internals installed.
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You pays to play or you stay on the porch.    For a NVG capable pistol it was worth it for me.

You can send your slide to be machined but the pricing isn't much different and you wait many weeks to get it there and back again.  My attention span isn't that long.

You can get the slides either stripped or with Glock OEM internals installed.


This.

You gotta pay to play.

I love my ATOM slide. Its nice knowing I can change optics at any time, and the lowered ejection port supposedly eliminates the BTF issues. I haven't had any BTF issues with mine, so yea.......

IMG_20141009_174127 by The One and Only "B"!, on Flickr

IMG_20141009_174826 by The One and Only "B"!, on Flickr
10/9/2014 7:49:11 PM EDT
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This.

You gotta pay to play.

I love my ATOM slide. Its nice knowing I can change optics at any time, and the lowered ejection port supposedly eliminates the BTF issues. I haven't had any BTF issues with mine, so yea.......

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/pAS6ep" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5603/15490739725_77db5ebee4_o.jpg</a>IMG_20141009_174127 by The One and Only "B"!, on Flickr

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/pAQgD3" target="_blank">https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3940/15490384512_b61e889aae_o.jpg</a>IMG_20141009_174826 by The One and Only "B"!, on Flickr
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I like the concept, but at $480 for a stripped slide?  No thanks.


You pays to play or you stay on the porch.    For a NVG capable pistol it was worth it for me.

You can send your slide to be machined but the pricing isn't much different and you wait many weeks to get it there and back again.  My attention span isn't that long.

You can get the slides either stripped or with Glock OEM internals installed.


This.

You gotta pay to play.

I love my ATOM slide. Its nice knowing I can change optics at any time, and the lowered ejection port supposedly eliminates the BTF issues. I haven't had any BTF issues with mine, so yea.......

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/pAS6ep" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5603/15490739725_77db5ebee4_o.jpg</a>IMG_20141009_174127 by The One and Only "B"!, on Flickr

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/pAQgD3" target="_blank">https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3940/15490384512_b61e889aae_o.jpg</a>IMG_20141009_174826 by The One and Only "B"!, on Flickr


Nice!  Have you used yours for EDC?  Any issues?
10/9/2014 8:04:19 PM EDT
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Nice!  Have you used yours for EDC?  Any issues?
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I like the concept, but at $480 for a stripped slide?  No thanks.


You pays to play or you stay on the porch.    For a NVG capable pistol it was worth it for me.

You can send your slide to be machined but the pricing isn't much different and you wait many weeks to get it there and back again.  My attention span isn't that long.

You can get the slides either stripped or with Glock OEM internals installed.


This.

You gotta pay to play.

I love my ATOM slide. Its nice knowing I can change optics at any time, and the lowered ejection port supposedly eliminates the BTF issues. I haven't had any BTF issues with mine, so yea.......

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/pAS6ep" target="_blank">https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5603/15490739725_77db5ebee4_o.jpg</a>IMG_20141009_174127 by The One and Only "B"!, on Flickr

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/pAQgD3" target="_blank">https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3940/15490384512_b61e889aae_o.jpg</a>IMG_20141009_174826 by The One and Only "B"!, on Flickr


Nice!  Have you used yours for EDC?  Any issues?


I don't use mine for EDC, but know of others who do use theirs for EDC, with no issues. The only tricky part is finding a holster, but as you saw above, there are options out there.
10/9/2014 8:39:38 PM EDT
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Aside from the IWB holster I posted.  I had Off The Grid Concepts make this one for use with the X300 Vampire or Ultra.  It is their Adaptive MKIII and comes either with or without the thumb break - which is the bladetech WRS spring loaded mechanism.
https://otghex.com/products/mkiii-outside-waistband/?navselect=group3

I use it for my hunting rig.



10/9/2014 8:52:05 PM EDT
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Besides the dovetail for the mount, what other milling is performed on the A.T.O.M?  I see serrations on the front of the slide, and the BUIS, but anything else?
10/9/2014 9:01:34 PM EDT
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Lowered ejection port. Supposedly eliminates the BTF issues.
10/10/2014 11:34:37 AM EDT
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Wish they would make a GEN 4 slide.

10/10/2014 12:47:14 PM EDT
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I like mine, the sights still sit a bit low on my can though.

10/10/2014 7:32:48 PM EDT
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Any of you guys with them cross dominant? Is target acquisition faster for you?
10/10/2014 11:52:28 PM EDT
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I am cross dominant when I shoot left handed around a barricade.    

Yes, the RMR is faster to acquire than iron sights because your focus stays on the target instead of the front sight.  It does take a bit of getting used to if you have lots of reps with the front sight - which I do.  Once you get the reps in with the RMR it is faster, easier to hit moving targets by a good bit, and your overall situational awareness is improved.
10/11/2014 1:54:22 PM EDT
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I am cross dominant when I shoot left handed around a left side barricade.    

Yes, the RMR is faster to acquire than iron sights because your focus stays on the target instead of the front sight.  It does take a bit of getting used to if you have lots of reps with the front sight - which I do.  Once you get the reps in with the RMR it is faster, easier to hit moving targets by a good bit, and your overall situational awareness is improved.
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I am cross dominant when I shoot left handed around a left side barricade.    

Yes, the RMR is faster to acquire than iron sights because your focus stays on the target instead of the front sight.  It does take a bit of getting used to if you have lots of reps with the front sight - which I do.  Once you get the reps in with the RMR it is faster, easier to hit moving targets by a good bit, and your overall situational awareness is improved.


I dont have a ton of training with my pistol.  I want to do more, but my issue has always been ,y cross dominance.  Im right handed/left eye dominant. Getting a consistent sight picture quickly with open sighted pistols has always been an issue.  Im hoping the RMR helps.
10/11/2014 9:40:14 PM EDT
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I'm kind of wondering this too. I am cross eye dominant and have been  tossing this idea around.
10/12/2014 12:26:09 AM EDT
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I'm kind of wondering this too. I am cross eye dominant and have been  tossing this idea around.
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I'm kind of wondering this too. I am cross eye dominant and have been  tossing this idea around.


I am cross eye dominant. I am left eye dominant, but a righty.

Target acquisition is faster, and I can actually shoot with both eyes open. The dot just "appears" on the target, and the bullets go where the dot is at. Its awesome!
10/12/2014 2:29:05 PM EDT
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I am cross eye dominant. I am left eye dominant, but a righty.

Target acquisition is faster, and I can actually shoot with both eyes open. The dot just "appears" on the target, and the bullets go where the dot is at. Its awesome!
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Any of you guys with them cross dominant? Is target acquisition faster for you?

I'm kind of wondering this too. I am cross eye dominant and have been  tossing this idea around.


I am cross eye dominant. I am left eye dominant, but a righty.

Target acquisition is faster, and I can actually shoot with both eyes open. The dot just "appears" on the target, and the bullets go where the dot is at. Its awesome!


10/13/2014 2:01:46 PM EDT
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Anyone had an existing slide milled by robar?
10/14/2014 12:28:41 PM EDT
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I had one, sold it and will eventually replace it with a slide cut by OST to leave the rear sight behind the red dot.
10/14/2014 6:50:24 PM EDT
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Anyone swapped the sights for high suppressor night sights?
10/14/2014 7:01:25 PM EDT
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I would imagine you wouldn't want to or have a need to. It seems like the glowing dots of the night sights and the glowing dot of the RMR would become redundant and confusing.

I either wanted an RMR or night sights for that reason and a few others, but didn't want both. Airborne_Infantryman helped me in another thread describing the difficulty of finding/keeping the dot without sights at all, so I decided just to buy Trijicon Suppressor Sights. I think the ATOM is the ideal solution the way it comes, I just don't want to spend the money at the moment.
10/14/2014 10:40:11 PM EDT
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I would imagine you wouldn't want to or have a need to. It seems like the glowing dots of the night sights and the glowing dot of the RMR would become redundant and confusing.

I either wanted an RMR or night sights for that reason and a few others, but didn't want both. Airborne_Infantryman helped me in another thread describing the difficulty of finding/keeping the dot without sights at all, so I decided just to buy Trijicon Suppressor Sights. I think the ATOM is the ideal solution the way it comes, I just don't want to spend the money at the moment.
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I would imagine you wouldn't want to or have a need to. It seems like the glowing dots of the night sights and the glowing dot of the RMR would become redundant and confusing.

I either wanted an RMR or night sights for that reason and a few others, but didn't want both. Airborne_Infantryman helped me in another thread describing the difficulty of finding/keeping the dot without sights at all, so I decided just to buy Trijicon Suppressor Sights. I think the ATOM is the ideal solution the way it comes, I just don't want to spend the money at the moment.


Very true.

I recently talked to Trent at Unity Tactical, about tritium sights for the ATOM slide, and he said that the ATOM's BUIS are proprietary.....I'm assuming you could swap a tritium front sight, but IDK how that would work either. The ATOM's front sight is very thin, and there's barely any room for error when lining up the BUIS as it is......I don't think a front sight any wider than the stock one would work.

He explained that they considered a tritium option, but there wasn't demand for it, and most users didn't want 4 different dots in their sight picture.

However.........if you were so inclined, and REALLY wanted tritium, you could take your BUIS off your ATOM slide, and send them to ToolTech, to have tritium installed.
10/14/2014 11:07:00 PM EDT
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I don't want tritium on mine as I use it with my NVG and don't need the bloom and distraction of the extra light.  Even without the goggles, adding more aiming points doesn't help.  The red dot is your aiming point.
10/14/2014 11:29:18 PM EDT
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I would like my front sight post to have color at least.  Thinking about painting it.