Posted: 3/12/2014 10:01:15 AM EDT
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I bought a Gen 4 G19 on Monday. Fired casings from 03-01-2014. I stripped and lubed it as normal.
We went to ranch yesterday and my 15 year old, 5ft, 105lb daughter had approximately 95% failure rate out of 350 or so rounds. Monarch 115 FMJ, 9MM NATO, WWB 115 JHP, Federal 9BP, Federal 124 Hydra-Shoks, Tula Brass 115 FMJ. First round off the bat was a failure to feed. Round hung on ramp. Slide not all the way of course. Went on to include about 6 classic stovepipes, multiple hangups on ramp with nose of bullet pointing to left, multiple double feeds, Failure to extract completely from chamber. She sure did perfect her malfunction drills. She had her Gen 3 there and mine as well. She fired those and 100% reliable. Left back home and I cleaned it and thought I would try to swap the dipped extractor for a non-dipped and see if that would cure it. She went to the mall and when she got back at 9pm we drove 20 minutes to ranch to see if that took care of it. Nope.......... in fact, the dreaded dipped extractor functioned 100% in a LTF prefix Gen 3 19 I got the non-dipped extractor from. We fired 9MM NATO and more Tula brass. Called Glock this morning and the gentleman said it might be her grip. He said that she migh not be used to the SF grip and she probably needs to lock her arms more and get a better stance. I told him she has been shooting Glocks (Gen3 26, 19, 17, 22, and 23) for over 5 years and all other Glocks have been flawless. I then Asked about changing to an aftermarket extractor, he said Glock makes good ones. I have to agree to a point since the LTF Glock ran perfect with the Gen 4 extractor. I am thinking the slide impulse is now too soft because of the dual spring for her. Really down about this as I want it to be reliable for her to shoot as well. She does like the smaller grip of the Gen 4, but I would not want her relying on this gun later on. Anyone see a shooter who has alot of experience with Gen 3s have problems with a Gen 4? I fired a full magazine and it worked for me perfect. I just can't understand how it can fail for her when she has so much experience with Glocks. She has also shot S&W SD9VEs, Beretta 92FS, and a Ruger P95 with no problems. |
| If she had several failures while she shot it, and you didn't have any, I would definitely say that she is limp wristing. She may have to adjust her grip. I know they make different weight recoil springs, I don't know if playing around with that would help or not. But definitely grip first. |
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95% failure rate through 350 rounds...hats off to her persistence. I would've thrown in the towel much sooner.
I'm typically hesitant to point to limpwristing, since my 12 yr old can run a Gen4 19 one-handed without issue, but it sounds like that may be the problem here. ETA: Or a bad spring, as suggested above. My newest 19 barely passes the recoil spring test. |
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I am not sure why a Gen 3/4 acts so differently for her. God love her, for staying in the fight though! Good on her for sure.
That said, if you had a gun problem, it would have done it for you too. It didn't though, so that narrrows the list down pretty well. Get her to do some excersises, to strengthen her grip power. That will be the first step to getting that fixed. How old is she??? Is she young? Or just very petite? I have a 9 year old little girl, that is really petite as well, and this will certainy be a road I travel as well. |