Posted: 12/24/2013 7:37:49 PM EDT
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Want to snag one for my 23.
What do I need to know? I want to get it for cheaper range visits, but will still carry .40. Is the lone wolf barrel gtg? |
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Why not just buy a G19? Then you have two guns, and the 9mm setup will be factory reliable. I have never understood the point of conversion barrels unless it is a for a caliber Glock doesn't make (e.g, .400 Corbon).
The barrel will cost you $109 plus shipping: Lone Wolf Conversion Barrel $109 You'll want at least two magazines, at roughly $25 each plus shipping: Midway USA Glock 19 Magazine $24.99 So, with shipping you are in for about $200. Why not just put a little more with it and get a G19? I mean no offense to those who like their conversion barrels, but I genuinely don't see the point. If your budget is such that the extra money is an issue, then I would sell the G23 and get a 19. |
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Why not just buy a G19? Then you have two guns, and the 9mm setup will be factory reliable. I have never understood the point of conversion barrels unless it is a for a caliber Glock doesn't make (e.g, .400 Corbon). The barrel will cost you $109 plus shipping: Lone Wolf Conversion Barrel $109 You'll want at least two magazines, at roughly $25 each plus shipping: Midway USA Glock 19 Magazine $24.99 So, with shipping you are in for about $200. Why not just put a little more with it and get a G19? I mean no offense to those who like their conversion barrels, but I genuinely don't see the point. If your budget is such that the extra money is an issue, then I would sell the G23 and get a 19. Op here Already have a 17 and many many mags. I've also had 19's in the past and still have 5 mags. So I'd only be out $100. As to sell the 23 and get a 19, I like carrying .40 HST it's a nasty ccw round. |
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Op here Already have a 17 and many many mags. I've also had 19's in the past and still have 5 mags. So I'd only be out $100. As to sell the 23 and get a 19, I like carrying .40 HST it's a nasty ccw round. Quoted:
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Why not just buy a G19? Then you have two guns, and the 9mm setup will be factory reliable. I have never understood the point of conversion barrels unless it is a for a caliber Glock doesn't make (e.g, .400 Corbon). The barrel will cost you $109 plus shipping: Lone Wolf Conversion Barrel $109 You'll want at least two magazines, at roughly $25 each plus shipping: Midway USA Glock 19 Magazine $24.99 So, with shipping you are in for about $200. Why not just put a little more with it and get a G19? I mean no offense to those who like their conversion barrels, but I genuinely don't see the point. If your budget is such that the extra money is an issue, then I would sell the G23 and get a 19. Op here Already have a 17 and many many mags. I've also had 19's in the past and still have 5 mags. So I'd only be out $100. As to sell the 23 and get a 19, I like carrying .40 HST it's a nasty ccw round. Other reasons to go the barrel route are regular rifling, different choices in barrel combos( like ported, extended, and/or threaded), and if you have upgrades to the trigger system having multiple identical pistols gets pricy quick. |
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OP, or anybody else for that matter. So, let me understand fully. If I have a .40 frame gun, I can buy a barrel in (mm, or .357, and get the appropriate mags, and be gtg??? Yep. Just make sure that when you order the barrel, it says .40 Conversion to 9mm. You can go an extra step and buy the 9mm extractor and 9mm ejector. |
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What is different about the "conversion barrel"? Is lone wolf the way to fly with this? It has the same outer diameter as the fourty barrel. Lone wolf is gtg but there are other makes too The 40 extractor and ejector work just fine with 9mm and 357 sig uses a 40 for the parent case so there aren't issues using it |
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Glock factory barrels, as well as H&K and I believe Sig, are cold hammered forge around a mandrel that produced polygonal rifling. This is superior in most every way, except you aren't supposed to fire lead bullets in them for fear that lead will build up in the barrel and cause excessive pressure. People who want to shoot lead bullets will sometimes buy an aftermarket barrel with traditional, button-cut rifling to use with lead.
Personally, I don't care to accept the health risks of lead exposure at this stage in life, but its a personal decision. BTW, I don't consider adding aftermarket parts to a Glock to be "upgrades." Such changes tend to impair reliability, which is the most important factor in handgun selection. |
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Hey Willie, thanks for the reply. Also, on one of you earlier posts, you said that they had "regular rifling". Regular as opposed to what? Thanks again for the insight. Glocks use a polygonal rifling, it doesn't play well with cast lead bullets. Lonewolf has the option of using conventional land and groove rifling. |
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Thanks guys. I guess in my newness to the G game, I did't realize that they had poly rifling.
As far as the LW barels go, what kind of accuracy are you guys getting out of them? Also, with those barrels, and the correct mags, are they pretty well problem free??? Thanks again. |
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Thanks guys. I guess in my newness to the G game, I did't realize that they had poly rifling. As far as the LW barels go, what kind of accuracy are you guys getting out of them? Also, with those barrels, and the correct mags, are they pretty well problem free??? Thanks again. My lonewolf conversion with the proper mags and factory loads is as reliable as the pistol was before, and slightly more accurate. Barrel is heavier and stays on target better making seconds faster. With 40 cal mags and 9mm rounds you get to practice FTF drills about 20% of the time. The 40 mag allows the nose of the 9mm to sit high which causes it to hit the upper rear of the barrel hood and stand the round up. The 357 Sig doesn't have enough rounds through it for me to comment with experience to backup, but appears to be GTG barring any drastic changes. (less than 250 rds) 357 sig isn't cheap and I don't have dies for it yet. Like the 9mm it has heavier barrel walls and the extra weight towards the front of the pistol helps compared to the 40 barrel. My glock is a RTF2 model 23. |
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Glock factory barrels, as well as H&K and I believe Sig, are cold hammered forge around a mandrel that produced polygonal rifling. This is superior in most every way, except you aren't supposed to fire lead bullets in them for fear that lead will build up in the barrel and cause excessive pressure. People who want to shoot lead bullets will sometimes buy an aftermarket barrel with traditional, button-cut rifling to use with lead. Personally, I don't care to accept the health risks of lead exposure at this stage in life, but its a personal decision. BTW, I don't consider adding aftermarket parts to a Glock to be "upgrades." Such changes tend to impair reliability, which is the most important factor in handgun selection. Prove the part in red please. the cold hammer forge process will produce more consistent (not necessarily better) mass produced, lower price barrel but most match barrels are still land and groove because they are usually more accurate. Lead exposure from cast bullets isn't much higher than from a HP, and can be mitigated by proper sanitation. Just so you understand, Just like jerking off, wash your hands when your done. |
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If your goal is bullseye shooting, then I express no opinion. Extreme mechanical accuracy is of no interest to me in a defensive handgun. Any quality handgun, and certainly and Glock, is going to be sufficiently accurate for use in the kind of CQB engagements most of us are preparing for.
Polygonal rifling last longer and is easier to clean. I don't know what kind of "proof" I could offer to persuade you given that this is an Internet forum, but wikipedia seems to agree with me: Wikipedia I guess we could conduct some trial using otherwise identical pistols and different barrels. In any event, I'll keep my Glock pistols stock, and you are free to put whatever parts in yours that suit you. Pistols tend to be deeply personal things. |
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You are correct about the easier to clean part, with no sharp corners there are less places for fouling to hide.
The longer lasting part is also true, but if use you own most of us are preparing for then we need not worry here either. My Ballester Molina still is accurate enough for any CQB shooting I need to do, I don't know how many rounds the argentines put through her but I'm over 3000. Not bad for a gun built on license in a third world country. |
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If your goal is bullseye shooting, then I express no opinion. Extreme mechanical accuracy is of no interest to me in a defensive handgun. Any quality handgun, and certainly and Glock, is going to be sufficiently accurate for use in the kind of CQB engagements most of us are preparing for. Polygonal rifling last longer and is easier to clean. I don't know what kind of "proof" I could offer to persuade you given that this is an Internet forum, but wikipedia seems to agree with me: Wikipedia I guess we could conduct some trial using otherwise identical pistols and different barrels. In any event, I'll keep my Glock pistols stock, and you are free to put whatever parts in yours that suit you. Pistols tend to be deeply personal things. I appreciate everybody's input here. But I will say one thing. Wiki is complete and utter bullshit. I wouldn't ever quote wiki, and say, "look here, I got you, Wiki says so". |
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I appreciate everybody's input here. But I will say one thing. Wiki is complete and utter bullshit. I wouldn't ever quote wiki, and say, "look here, I got you, Wiki says so". Quoted:
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If your goal is bullseye shooting, then I express no opinion. Extreme mechanical accuracy is of no interest to me in a defensive handgun. Any quality handgun, and certainly and Glock, is going to be sufficiently accurate for use in the kind of CQB engagements most of us are preparing for. Polygonal rifling last longer and is easier to clean. I don't know what kind of "proof" I could offer to persuade you given that this is an Internet forum, but wikipedia seems to agree with me: Wikipedia I guess we could conduct some trial using otherwise identical pistols and different barrels. In any event, I'll keep my Glock pistols stock, and you are free to put whatever parts in yours that suit you. Pistols tend to be deeply personal things. I appreciate everybody's input here. But I will say one thing. Wiki is complete and utter bullshit. I wouldn't ever quote wiki, and say, "look here, I got you, Wiki says so". BOOM, headshot. Shot down by a'13er. 
Good shoot Hatr40, good shoot +internets for using post 69 to good effect 
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yes. .0165 inches is well within the tolerance of the parts. slightly over 1/100 of an inch.
40 base .424 9mm base.391 difference.033 divided by 2 since the extractor is on one side of the centerline .0165 Use a calculator if doing math while drinking 16.5 thousandths |
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Would you guys and gals continue to trust your life to a G22 or G23 after running countless rounds through a LW conversion without changing the extractor or ejector? Yes, the extractor and ejector for .357 Sig is the same as for .40.... I prefer .357 Sig, but ammo is hard to get, simple change to .40, 9mm as a back up, never had a problem with it's functioning |
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Do yourself a favor... just trade it for a Gen 2 G19... you'll be much happier!  What you did there.... I saw it. 
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