Posted: 8/2/2013 5:16:25 AM EDT
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Just picked up a new G21 and the stock slide release is junk (yes i know i have hands like a bitch, please dont waste your time posting that)
There are a number of aftermarket extended slide releases ranging from 15 bucks at midway to nicer more expensive ones. What aftermarket release does the glock hive recommend? |
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I just use the Glock Extended Slide Stop Release from Glock with the raised triangle it works great for me ymmv This the one guys ? http://www.glockmeister.com/Glockmeister-Extended-Slide-Stop-Lever-For-all-SF-GLOCKs-and-GEN-4-10mm-and-45-ACP-Models/productinfo/GMSSL21SF/ |
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This the one guys ? http://www.glockmeister.com/Glockmeister-Extended-Slide-Stop-Lever-For-all-SF-GLOCKs-and-GEN-4-10mm-and-45-ACP-Models/productinfo/GMSSL21SF/ Quoted:
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I just use the Glock Extended Slide Stop Release from Glock with the raised triangle it works great for me ymmv This the one guys ? http://www.glockmeister.com/Glockmeister-Extended-Slide-Stop-Lever-For-all-SF-GLOCKs-and-GEN-4-10mm-and-45-ACP-Models/productinfo/GMSSL21SF/ That's the one 
I thought u posted a link, but I guess not. |
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I got rid of my OEM extended slide stops and put the Vickers one on there. I like the wider area, little easier to hit if I have to.
Vickers Tactical Slide Stop |
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It's actually a "slide stop leaver" not a slide release and shouldn't be used to release the slide. It is better to rack the slide to release it. No, it's not. 
It can be used to both stop and release the slide. It won't hurt anything. The owners manual says you can use it, Glock reps say you can use it, the majority of instructors say you can use it, nearly everyone that shoots for a living says you can use it. |
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OF COURSE YOU CAN USE IT IF YOU WANT...I did not say that you can't!!!! Most people that know how to shoot Glocks don't use it. As I said...It's better to rack the slide back to release the slide. Most competition shooters (IDPA / Combat / so on…) don’t use the slide stop to release the slide. Most of the Police and shooting schools / academies and such teach to rack the slide back to release the slide. It is usually quicker, easier and more reliable to rack the slide than to use the slide stop to release the slide.
Many shooter don’t add an over sized slide stop due to the increased occurrences of accidental slide lock while shooting. Many people that add new (oversized) slide stops have this problem and have no idea why and end up blaming Glock. I feel that it is best to not change this part and learn to rack the slide to the rear to release it. Most people have to reposition their shooting hand (trigger hand / strong hand) to use the slide stop as a release. This is what the "Experts and Military teaches" When rapid/speed reloading use your support hand (the hand that just inserted the magazine) to rack the slide to the rear to release it . It is very important to keep/maintain a good "straight finger" shooting grip with your shooting hand while reloading. Do not use the slide stop/release to release the slide in this procedure. AGAIN, I am not saying that you cant use the slide stop and I am not saying that it won't work...I'm just saying that you shouldn't use (in most cases) and that there is no need to upgade it. Quoted:
No, it's not.
It can be used to both stop and release the slide. It won't hurt anything. The owners manual says you can use it, Glock reps say you can use it, the majority of instructors say you can use it, nearly everyone that shoots for a living says you can use it. Quoted:
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It's actually a "slide stop leaver" not a slide release and shouldn't be used to release the slide. It is better to rack the slide to release it. No, it's not.
It can be used to both stop and release the slide. It won't hurt anything. The owners manual says you can use it, Glock reps say you can use it, the majority of instructors say you can use it, nearly everyone that shoots for a living says you can use it. |
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OF COURSE YOU CAN USE IT IF YOU WANT...I did not say that you can't!!!! Most people that know how to shoot Glocks don't use it. As I said...It's better to rack the slide back to release the slide. Most competition shooters (IDPA / Combat / so on…) don’t use the slide stop to release the slide. Most of the Police and shooting schools / academies and such teach to rack the slide back to release the slide. It is usually quicker, easier and more reliable to rack the slide than to use the slide stop to release the slide. Many shooter don’t add an over sized slide stop due to the increased occurrences of accidental slide lock while shooting. Many people that add new (oversized) slide stops have this problem and have no idea why and end up blaming Glock. I feel that it is best to not change this part and learn to rack the slide to the rear to release it. Most people have to reposition their shooting hand (trigger hand / strong hand) to use the slide stop as a release. This is what the "Experts and Military teaches" When rapid/speed reloading use your support hand (the hand that just inserted the magazine) to rack the slide to the rear to release it . It is very important to keep/maintain a good "straight finger" shooting grip with your shooting hand while reloading. Do not use the slide stop/release to release the slide in this procedure. AGAIN, I am not saying that you cant use the slide stop and I am not saying that it won't work...I'm just saying that you shouldn't use (in most cases) and that there is no need to upgade it. Dude, what? Have you ever been to a formal shooting match? I compete all over the country 1-4 times a month, nearly every shooter (and practically all of the good ones) uses the slide stop/release to drop the slide. Racking is a slower method. Even if you can't reach it with your shooting hand thumb, you can easily hit it with your support thumb. The Marine Corps, at least when I was there, teaches the use of it as a release. Don't take this personally, but your information isn't correct at all. |
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Dude, what? Have you ever been to a formal shooting match? I compete all over the country 1-4 times a month, nearly every shooter (and practically all of the good ones) uses the slide stop/release to drop the slide. Racking is a slower method. Even if you can't reach it with your shooting hand thumb, you can easily hit it with your support thumb. The Marine Corps, at least when I was there, teaches the use of it as a release. Don't take this personally, but your information isn't correct at all. Quoted:
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OF COURSE YOU CAN USE IT IF YOU WANT...I did not say that you can't!!!! Most people that know how to shoot Glocks don't use it. As I said...It's better to rack the slide back to release the slide. Most competition shooters (IDPA / Combat / so on…) don’t use the slide stop to release the slide. Most of the Police and shooting schools / academies and such teach to rack the slide back to release the slide. It is usually quicker, easier and more reliable to rack the slide than to use the slide stop to release the slide. Many shooter don’t add an over sized slide stop due to the increased occurrences of accidental slide lock while shooting. Many people that add new (oversized) slide stops have this problem and have no idea why and end up blaming Glock. I feel that it is best to not change this part and learn to rack the slide to the rear to release it. Most people have to reposition their shooting hand (trigger hand / strong hand) to use the slide stop as a release. This is what the "Experts and Military teaches" When rapid/speed reloading use your support hand (the hand that just inserted the magazine) to rack the slide to the rear to release it . It is very important to keep/maintain a good "straight finger" shooting grip with your shooting hand while reloading. Do not use the slide stop/release to release the slide in this procedure. AGAIN, I am not saying that you cant use the slide stop and I am not saying that it won't work...I'm just saying that you shouldn't use (in most cases) and that there is no need to upgade it. Dude, what? Have you ever been to a formal shooting match? I compete all over the country 1-4 times a month, nearly every shooter (and practically all of the good ones) uses the slide stop/release to drop the slide. Racking is a slower method. Even if you can't reach it with your shooting hand thumb, you can easily hit it with your support thumb. The Marine Corps, at least when I was there, teaches the use of it as a release. Don't take this personally, but your information isn't correct at all. Sorry but I think that you are ALL WRONG...Try reading some books and get some formal training. I did not know that the USMC used Glocks. We are talking about Glocks not 1911's right. 1911's I would use the slide release...that's how they were designed but not so in a Glock. I have never seen it tought to use the slide lock (using a Glock) in any action type competition or in active police / military use. The US Army and USMC manual instructs you to retract the slide to the rear and to release it to load. I do not have the time right now nor the interest but there are several books and experts out there that recommend sliding the rack to the rear method over using the slide stop / release for many reasons. So...you may do as you wish and whatever works best for you but for me I will stick to my training and many yrs of competitive experience and rack the slide. Take care and be safe. |
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Sorry but I think that you are ALL WRONG...Try reading some books and get some formal training. I did not know that the USMC used Glocks. We are talking about Glocks not 1911's right. 1911's I would use the slide release...that's how they were designed but not so in a Glock. I have never seen it tought to use the slide lock (using a Glock) in any action type competition or in active police / military use. The US Army and USMC manual instructs you to retract the slide to the rear and to release it to load. I do not have the time right now nor the interest but there are several books and experts out there that recommend sliding the rack to the rear method over using the slide stop / release for many reasons. So...you may do as you wish and whatever works best for you but for me I will stick to my training and many yrs of competitive experience and rack the slide. Take care and be safe. Geez dude, I said don't take it personally. I've had plenty of formal training. The Corps doesn't use 1911s anymore (with few exceptions) we use the M9. Plenty of military units use the Glock now and they use the slide release. You've already demonstrated several times that you don't know what you're talking about. So, please stop giving bad (old?) advice and pretending it's gospel. The slide release is a perfectly viable method on the Glock series, in fact, it's a great method. |
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Dude, what? Have you ever been to a formal shooting match? I compete all over the country 1-4 times a month, nearly every shooter (and practically all of the good ones) uses the slide stop/release to drop the slide. Racking is a slower method. Even if you can't reach it with your shooting hand thumb, you can easily hit it with your support thumb. The Marine Corps, at least when I was there, teaches the use of it as a release. My experience matches E5K's. Many of the shooters I see in matches drop the slide with the slide stop lever regardless of brand of pistol, and of those that do it, most use their support hand thumb. For many it is faster since the slide can be dropped with the lever while the support hand is very close to being in a proper firing grip (if it isn't already) versus having to bring the hand up, back, and then down to rack the slide. |
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From this thread i have recieved several good ideas for aftermarket slide stops so thanks for the input.
I did get a chance to shoot the new pistol this weekend and after 2 clips it seemed a bit easier to work the stock slide stop. Now weather thats the pistol "breaking in" or my bitch hands decided to man up that day i am unsure of yet. NOW after shooting new topic! 6 oclock hold vs center hold...... i bought this G21 at a gun show in DC and had a set of TRIJ night sights installed at the show right after purchasing new, love the sights but while shooting this weekend the standard point and make the sight look like this (M^M) wasnt working after a clip and only 1 impact on 12 inch steel target at 15 yards i decided to put it away save ammo and do some reserch. THAT BEING SAID, i am pretty much a complete pistol newb, i mean i can make one go bang in the direction inrtended and at times hit things i am aiming at but i am pretty new to pistols. As i am sure you guys where aware of previously when you had to correct my nomenclature for the slide stop. was the G21 when purchesd new with factory sights a center hold gun as i am accustomed to, and when i had the night sights installed changed it to a 6 oclock? FYI the guys that installed the sights where glock factory certified and not just a fat guy in the corner selling beef jerky and hand craft Chinese knifes, so i think they were legit |
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From this thread i have recieved several good ideas for aftermarket slide stops so thanks for the input. I did get a chance to shoot the new pistol this weekend and after 2 clips magazines it seemed a bit easier to work the stock slide stop. Now weather thats the pistol "breaking in" or my bitch hands decided to man up that day i am unsure of yet. It's normal for the slide stop/release to be stiff at first. It's a little hard to push on my new G21, but it's easy as can be on the rest of my Glocks. |
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It's normal for the slide stop/release to be stiff at first. It's a little hard to push on my new G21, but it's easy as can be on the rest of my Glocks. Quoted:
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From this thread i have recieved several good ideas for aftermarket slide stops so thanks for the input. I did get a chance to shoot the new pistol this weekend and after 2 clips magazines it seemed a bit easier to work the stock slide stop. Now weather thats the pistol "breaking in" or my bitch hands decided to man up that day i am unsure of yet. It's normal for the slide stop/release to be stiff at first. It's a little hard to push on my new G21, but it's easy as can be on the rest of my Glocks. Got ya MAGAZINES, again thanks for unfucking me. yeah it seemed to get much easier after being fired a few times. |
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i bought this G21 at a gun show in DC and had a set of TRIJ night sights installed at the show right after purchasing new, love the sights but while shooting this weekend the standard point and make the sight look like this (M^M) wasnt working after a clip and only 1 impact on 12 inch steel target at 15 yards i decided to put it away save ammo and do some reserch. THAT BEING SAID, i am pretty much a complete pistol newb, i mean i can make one go bang in the direction inrtended and at times hit things i am aiming at but i am pretty new to pistols. As i am sure you guys where aware of previously when you had to correct my nomenclature for the slide stop. was the G21 when purchesd new with factory sights a center hold gun as i am accustomed to, and when i had the night sights installed changed it to a 6 oclock? FYI the guys that installed the sights where glock factory certified and not just a fat guy in the corner selling beef jerky and hand craft Chinese knifes, so i think they were legit Were you shooting high, low, left or right? Center vs. 6:00 hold may be the cause, but maybe your windage is off too. I just put some new sights on my G34 and mechanically centered the rear sight on the slide. It shot to the left, so I had to bump it over a bit. |
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Were you shooting high, low, left or right? Center vs. 6:00 hold may be the cause, but maybe your windage is off too. I just put some new sights on my G34 and mechanically centered the rear sight on the slide. It shot to the left, so I had to bump it over a bit. Quoted:
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i bought this G21 at a gun show in DC and had a set of TRIJ night sights installed at the show right after purchasing new, love the sights but while shooting this weekend the standard point and make the sight look like this (M^M) wasnt working after a clip and only 1 impact on 12 inch steel target at 15 yards i decided to put it away save ammo and do some reserch. THAT BEING SAID, i am pretty much a complete pistol newb, i mean i can make one go bang in the direction inrtended and at times hit things i am aiming at but i am pretty new to pistols. As i am sure you guys where aware of previously when you had to correct my nomenclature for the slide stop. was the G21 when purchesd new with factory sights a center hold gun as i am accustomed to, and when i had the night sights installed changed it to a 6 oclock? FYI the guys that installed the sights where glock factory certified and not just a fat guy in the corner selling beef jerky and hand craft Chinese knifes, so i think they were legit Were you shooting high, low, left or right? Center vs. 6:00 hold may be the cause, but maybe your windage is off too. I just put some new sights on my G34 and mechanically centered the rear sight on the slide. It shot to the left, so I had to bump it over a bit. i had a 12inch metal gong up because i was shooting one of my chandler rifles at 800, when going up to check the target i remembered i had the glock in the truck and got it out threw in a mag and fired at the target at 15 yards or so. By no means was it calculated as it should of been firing the pistol for the first time. I suspect i was shooting over because the one impact i did make was pretty high on the target. i do plan this weekend to get a proper pistol paper target and shoot from 7 yards and see what my point of impact is VS point of aim then i can go from there. |