Posted: 7/14/2013 6:17:04 AM EDT
| Just got a G23. Should I get a plug for the pistol grip or leave it open? |
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Some will say yes because.... It keeps crap out of the gun. It acts as a funnel to speed up reloads. Some will say no because.... It does not let stuff fall out of the action. (It keeps crap in the gun.) It plugs the hole so you can not get a good grip on a stuck magazine. Ultimately, you need to decide if you want one or not. They are pretty cheap and removable if you don't like it. I would just say to train with it a lot, if you choose one, and see if it works better, or it makes it worse. But train with it before you carry it that way. |
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Some will say yes because.... It keeps crap out of the gun. It acts as a funnel to speed up reloads. Some will say no because.... It does not let stuff fall out of the action. (It keeps crap in the gun.) It plugs the hole so you can not get a good grip on a stuck magazine. Ultimately, you need to decide if you want one or not. They are pretty cheap and removable if you don't like it. I would just say to train with it a lot, if you choose one, and see if it works better, or it makes it worse. But train with it before you carry it that way. This right here. It just comes down to what works best for you. Try one out. If you don't like it, give it or sell it to one of your buddies that has a Glock. Also, for the record, I read the title of this thread and was afraid to click on it before I realized it was it wasn't in GD. 
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One reason for not putting a butt plug/ grip plug in the gun that has not been addressed yet is the plug does not allow the shooter to get a good grip on a stuck magazine.
If you look at the full sized models and the gen 2 compact models you have a cut out in the front and back of the frame to allow the shooter to get a good grip on the magazine for extraction. This need for access to the cut outs in the bottom of the frame on the front and back was more of an issue with the NFML magazines that were not designed to drop free. For the gen 3 compacts and sub compacts the only access to grab a stuck magazine is from the back of the frame. Looking at most grip reduction jobs the companys remove the opening at the back of the frame but usually put two half circle cut outs on the bottom sides of the frame to allow the shooter to grab the magazine. The average shooter will never roll around in, or drop the weapon in dirt, mud, snow or ice and need a magazine change AND have to deal with a stuck magazine with no place to grab a stuck magazine. For the average shooter the blocked grip access from the plug is a non issue. For me if its a duty/ CCW weapon the grip plug has no place in the weapon. Just my .02 |
| Personally I like mine - I had some major problems with the rim of the casing getting held up on the lip inside the magwell which caused some hang-ups during high speed reloads. I like the "ramp" the plug provides. For 6 bucks get one and see if you like it. As far as getting a good grip on a stuck mag - the rear end of the magazine doesn't provide a whole lot of surface area to grab a stuck mag anyways - two cutouts on either side of the grip is a better solution, plug or no plug. |
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Just got a G23. Should I get a plug for the pistol grip or leave it open? The last time this subject came up, the moderators deleted my witty observations. So, to be more succinct the answer is , no. It does not serve any useful purpose. It wasn't that witty. - DV8 
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Quoted: One reason for not putting a butt plug/ grip plug in the gun that has not been addressed yet is the plug does not allow the shooter to get a good grip on a stuck magazine. If you look at the full sized models and the gen 2 compact models you have a cut out in the front and back of the frame to allow the shooter to get a good grip on the magazine for extraction. This need for access to the cut outs in the bottom of the frame on the front and back was more of an issue with the NFML magazines that were not designed to drop free. For the gen 3 compacts and sub compacts the only access to grab a stuck magazine is from the back of the frame. Looking at most grip reduction jobs the companys remove the opening at the back of the frame but usually put two half circle cut outs on the bottom sides of the frame to allow the shooter to grab the magazine. The average shooter will never roll around in, or drop the weapon in dirt, mud, snow or ice and need a magazine change AND have to deal with a stuck magazine with no place to grab a stuck magazine. For the average shooter the blocked grip access from the plug is a non issue. For me if its a duty/ CCW weapon the grip plug has no place in the weapon. Just my .02 Acrually I address the magazine issue in my first post.  |
lol no I can't but it is cool. I think I got it from glockstore
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Meh. Whatever. I have one on my 34 solely because I found it on the ground at a match one day. If you want one, buy it. If not, don't. I don't think they do much of anything, positive or negative. A butt plug will bump you out of USPSA production class. So will beveling the mag well in any way. |
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Meh. Whatever. I have one on my 34 solely because I found it on the ground at a match one day. If you want one, buy it. If not, don't. I don't think they do much of anything, positive or negative. A butt plug will bump you out of USPSA production class. So will beveling the mag well in any way. I'm an IDPA shooter, not USPSA. |
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A butt plug should be uspsa production legal. Don't think so. See Appendix D4, section 22.3 of the USPSA rules book. Somewhat beside the point of the original post - however, plastic grip plugs are allowed as long as they don't protrude beyond the grip. I have one in my G17 and specifically asked prior to shooting Area 1 this year. See HERE To the OP - do or do not, it makes little to no difference. |
| I like mine. I am a LEO, and it keeps the dust/debris out of that rear "Funnel" of dirtiness. Looks a lot better. I carry IWB right next to my skin, with grip tape on the non-skin side. There is lots of lint going around there. I also clean my weapon regularly so the stuff in the gun gets cleaned every 1-2 months. |
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I had one in a G19 carry piece for years. I removed it once during a detailed strip and never re-installed it. I noticed no difference either way. Waste of time and money IMHO. As always- YMMV.
Disclaimer- I never had to remove a stuck magazine or submerged my Glock and never carried the gun in extreme conditions. It did pick up a lot of lint and dust from daily carry but I never experienced a malfunction (During range time, I would shoot my Glock as I had been carrying it without dusting it off or performing a press check. Draw and shoot). |