Posted: 3/24/2013 9:58:34 AM EDT
| Why would the Glock25 and 28 only be available to LE? Is there something special about the .380 ACP round I don't know about? |
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Why doesn't Glock just make them here in the US? Suppressed 380 would be nice and quiet. Glock would make a good host. There is no real demand for the 25/28 they are all the same size as the 19/26. The benefit of a 380 is having a smaller gun. The only reason they are made is for people who live in countries where you cannot own 9mm. |
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Why doesn't Glock just make them here in the US? Suppressed 380 would be nice and quiet. Glock would make a good host. There is no real demand for the 25/28 they are all the same size as the 19/26. The benefit of a 380 is having a smaller gun. The only reason they are made is for people who live in countries where you cannot own 9mm. Yeah, smaller round, snappier recoil due to being blowback. And a host with a locked breech will be quieter. |
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Why doesn't Glock just make them here in the US? Suppressed 380 would be nice and quiet. Glock would make a good host. There is no real demand for the 25/28 they are all the same size as the 19/26. The benefit of a 380 is having a smaller gun. The only reason they are made is for people who live in countries where you cannot own 9mm. Yeah, smaller round, snappier recoil due to being blowback. And a host with a locked breech will be quieter. So, its not a delayed blowback like other Glocks? Does it have a fixed barrel? |
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Why doesn't Glock just make them here in the US? Suppressed 380 would be nice and quiet. Glock would make a good host. There is no real demand for the 25/28 they are all the same size as the 19/26. The benefit of a 380 is having a smaller gun. The only reason they are made is for people who live in countries where you cannot own 9mm. Yeah, smaller round, snappier recoil due to being blowback. And a host with a locked breech will be quieter. So, its not a delayed blowback like other Glocks? Does it have a fixed barrel? 
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So, its not a delayed blowback like other Glocks? Other Glocks are not delayed blowback. What is the correct terminology to describe the action of a Glock then? "Delayed blowback" includes things like the HK roller delayed blowback design. Glock is a Browning locked breech short-recoil design. Here's some basics: http://www.rkba.org/guns/principles/ |
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Why doesn't Glock just make them here in the US? Suppressed 380 would be nice and quiet. Glock would make a good host. There is no real demand for the 25/28 they are all the same size as the 19/26. The benefit of a 380 is having a smaller gun. The only reason they are made is for people who live in countries where you cannot own 9mm. Yeah, smaller round, snappier recoil due to being blowback. And a host with a locked breech will be quieter. So, its not a delayed blowback like other Glocks? Does it have a fixed barrel? Previous Diagram I can't tell if you are serious with that picture or not. Either way, that is not a glock 25. If you are serious, did you really think that they would create a pistol sooooooooooo far off from their original design just for a couple of markets?? The Glock 25 is the almost the same as the Glock 19, but they change a couple of the locking features to enable it to function. They don't do massive changes to every part If you aren't serious, here are a couple Glock 25 pictures to keep you entertained. 
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I can't tell if you are serious with that picture or not. Either way, that is not a glock 25. If you are serious, did you really think that they would create a pistol sooooooooooo far off from their original design just for a couple of markets?? The Glock 25 is the almost the same as the Glock 19, but they change a couple of the locking features to enable it to function. They don't do massive changes to every part If you aren't serious, here are a couple Glock 25 pictures to keep you entertained. Haha no, not serious, I think that thing's a simunitions gun or something similar, only thing I could find with a fixed barrel. On the 25/28, isn't the front of the barrel hood ramped dramatically so that the barrel and slide aren't physically locked, at least not to the extent of a "normal" Glock caliber. ETA: Yep. 
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It technically does not meet the required points for an import firearm, which is why they are not available in the US market To expand on that point, the ATF uses a points system to determine which pistols are importable. A 9mm gets 7 more points than a .380. Without that 7 points the ATF will not allow the importation of .380 Glocks. Really a stupid system but there's no real reason for wanting a .380 Glock. They are the same size as the 9mm variants and the recoil on the 9mm Glocks is easily manageable. Add in the fact that you have a round with a lot less energy that cost even more to practice with and the .380 is pretty stupid IMO. On a side note, If Sig made the P232 in 9mm instead of just .380 I'd buy it tomorrow. I believe a pistol needs 75 points to meet requirements: 
For example, here is how the G17 scores: Length (7.28") 5 Weight (24.79oz) 25 Caliber (9mm) 10 Locked breech 5 Firing pin block 10 Double action 10 Target sight 10 Target grips 5 Total 80 Changes and features made to Glocks to comply with the BATF rules: - all models are imported with a cheap click-adjustable rear sight that is replaced at the factory with the stock sight - target (grooved) trigger added to compacts & subcompacts - target grips added to all models (required for the subcompacts) - due to their caliber, .380 autos (G25 & G28) do not score enough points to be imported |
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So, its not a delayed blowback like other Glocks? Other Glocks are not delayed blowback. Lol, someone has been reading up on HK carbines... Terminology and methods may be different, but the goal is the same. HK rifles, Steyr GB, HK P9S, HK P7, Heritage Stealth/Wilson ADP, there's some more I'm forgetting. Goal may be the same, but delayed blowback is very different than locked breech systems. |
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Glock would sell some to collectors, but aside from that, there's absolutely no advantage to them. Why would you want a gun in a less capable caliber when the gun is exactly the same size and mag capacity as the gun in the more capable caliber and (from reading, I've never held one, let alone shot one) has worse recoil because it's basically straight blowback? No point to them at all, at least here, where we aren't limited to calibers less than 9mm. If I were limited to .380, I think I'd rather have one of the smaller guns like a Ruger LCP or S&W Bodyguard, simply because they are easier to hide.
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It technically does not meet the required points for an import firearm, which is why they are not available in the US market To expand on that point, the ATF uses a points system to determine which pistols are importable. A 9mm gets 7 more points than a .380. Without that 7 points the ATF will not allow the importation of .380 Glocks. Really a stupid system but there's no real reason for wanting a .380 Glock. They are the same size as the 9mm variants and the recoil on the 9mm Glocks is easily manageable. Add in the fact that you have a round with a lot less energy that cost even more to practice with and the .380 is pretty stupid IMO. On a side note, If Sig made the P232 in 9mm instead of just .380 I'd buy it tomorrow. I believe a pistol needs 75 points to meet requirements: http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/attachments/24-7-series/34793d1345382371-batfe-points-system-2r6d0jm.jpg For example, here is how the G17 scores: Length (7.28") 5 Weight (24.79oz) 25 Caliber (9mm) 10 Locked breech 5 Firing pin block 10 Double action 10 Target sight 10 Target grips 5 Total 80 Changes and features made to Glocks to comply with the BATF rules: - all models are imported with a cheap click-adjustable rear sight that is replaced at the factory with the stock sight - target (grooved) trigger added to compacts & subcompacts - target grips added to all models (required for the subcompacts) - due to their caliber, .380 autos (G25 & G28) do not score enough points to be imported There's a YouTube video that explains this that I was looking for, but it looks like you did a pretty good job of it... |