[ARCHIVED THREAD] - 19 vs 23 (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 2/18/2013 8:59:35 PM EDT
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I'm in the market for a glock. Really wanted the 19 for carry.
It is to my understanding that the 23 is the same size but shoots .40 cal. The 23 can be converted to shoot either 9 mm or .40 depending on barrel and magazine, but the 19 does not have that capability. I have no interest in .40 cal but feel like in a shtf situation it would be nice to have the flexibility to shoot different calibers. Why do so many people prefer the 19 when the 23 can do both? Is it reliability issues? I personally feel like the 23 would be the best option but I would only carry it as a 9mm, should I just get the 19? ETA I think you need to swap the recoil spring too? |
both great but 19 is a all around easy too control accurate pistol IMO. i got a 19 and a 22 cause the 22 was the first glock i ever owned i wanted go back too it. now just need another TLR-1 light like i bought with the first one and im back too good memories of stroking her again like old times. sorry i stroke my glocks you know you do too.
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I recently got a 33, first thing I did was ordered a .40 factory barrel for it, when I went to the lgs to buy .357 sig ammo, it was expensive and only one 50 round box on the shelf. Looked below the .357 sig ammo....tons of .40 to be had and it was cheaper by $10, 9mm is no where to be found in my area, but .40 is all over the place.
I like to be able to shoot the guns I own, it is nice when ammo is available, last election ammo was scarce, .40 was not. OP , I did the whole buy a 23 get a 9mm conversion barrel, I never felt confident carrying a non factory barrel for sd so I got a 19, I think you should buy the 19. |
| Obviously you're thinking from a shtf scenario. I bought the G23 and a Storm Lake 9mm conversion barrel/9mm mags at the same time. I left the ejector and extractor alone. Shoots great with both calibers. Of course it cost extra, but I like the versatility. Except to save the cost of barrel/mags, I don't see a reason to buy a G19. |
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My first Glock was a 23 and I got the Lone Wolf 9mm conversion barrel and 9mm extractor for it. Had a few FTEs with it in 9mm but nothing I worried too much about. Found a used G19 for an awesome price and bought it then sold my LW 9mm barrel and extractor.
Personally, I like having guns in a variety of common calibers so I can shoot what's in stock at a reasonable price. As many have noticed, 9mm is hard to come by right now but 40 and 45 are available, so I'd be shooting my G23, P226 or 1911. Same reason I have ARs in 5.56 and 5.45 and AKs in 7.62 and 5.45. |
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What is required to convert a 23 to shoot 9mm? I remember seeing a thread about converting but can't find it. Is it just the barrel, magazine and recoil spring? Or other parts as well? Thanks for your help guys I really appreciate it Barrel and mag at a minimum. You can also swap extractors easily enough. Beyond that the ejector can be changed. Not sure about the recoil spring. |
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Buy the G19 and ammunition. There's no reason to have both 9 and 40. You're better off buying one and shooting its value in ammo several times a year. This. I don't have that much self control. I have five in three different calibers and looking for my sixth but they are hard to come by now.
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I just bought my first Glock a few weeks ago. I REALLY wanted a 19. I looked for new and used. The only thing I could find was a Gen 2 19 for $450, so I passed.
New 19's are nowhere to be found. I haven't seen any 9mm ammo on the shelves either. I called all of the gun shops in my area. One of them had a Gen 4 23 (FDE) and a Gen 3 23C (Black). I was going to get the Gen 4, but got there 15 minutes too late. 
So, now I'm the proud new owner of a 23C. Still haven't put a single round through it. That'll change this weekend though. A friend of mine has a Gen 3 23 with a .40-9 conversion barrel (not sure what brand). He said that it runs flawlessly with just the barrel and mags changed. |
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If you're going to carry in 9mm get the G19. In order to convert a G23 to 9mm you need to get a special .40 to 9mm conversion barrel. Several aftermarket manufacturers make them. You cannot use a standard G19 barrel. It seems the 9mm conversion barrels work pretty well, but personally I wouldn't trust them for carry. I would rather use an all stock Glock for carry/SD (except for the sights of course).
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Why do so many people prefer the 19 when the 23 can do both? Because I have no use for the .40 cal and prefer 9mm. |
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I bought a 23 in 2003. It is a great gun and I have carried it every day since I purchaed it, either in my car on on me. I am annoyed that it is the only .40 I own and I have an abundance of 9mm firearms, so for years I regretted getting the .40. I have reasoned that since it is a carry piece, I don't need to bulk up on ammo and if SHTF/TEOTWAWKI it will not be my go to gun for that reason, but I'll never sell it because it was my divorce victory gift to myself. In December I got a G19, so if I were doing it all over again, I would start with the 19. |
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If you plan to carry 9mm then get the G19. I do not believe in conversion barrels for carry\SD guns. Now if you were talking about the G34 vs G35 for a range gun then the whole conversion barrel thing might make sense but not for a gun you want to count on to save your life.
On the whole 9mm vs. ,40S&W thing... Quoted:
It doesn't matter. I tend to agree with this. Properly used, either one with a quality load has the ability to get the job done and neither one has any significant advantage over the other. |
| glocks are great, leave them be unless you want to throw a light or some other accessory on it. But with 9mm ammunition becoming a rarity at least in my parts, grabbing a 40cal interchangable does make sense economically. If it's your carry gun I'd just leave it be whatever you decide and not mess with barrel swaps. |
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I have had at least one 19 for the longest time, about 20 years (has it really been that long?). I recently sold off my last 19 as I now have a G32 with two conversion barrels, one for 40 and one for 9mm. Same size gun, but the ability to shoot any of 3 calibers, whatever is available at the time, with the addition of two extra barrels.
Works for me. YMMV. |
| I'd say get a 26. Just bought one myself after trying to decide between the 19, 23, 26 and 27. I am very happy with my choice. The thing about the subcompacts is that you can always make them bigger with grip extensions, longer drop in barrels and bigger mags but you can't make the bigger Glocks smaller. I guess if you were to go with the 27 you'd have the most adjustable Glock ever. I chose the 26 because 9mm ammo is so cheap and .40 is only a hair stronger than 9mm. |
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Quoted: Really people??? This is Arfcom.. Get both. I had a 19 & wanted to be able to switch to different calibers if I chose to in the future. So I traded it for a 23. G19 can go ~ .22 and 9mm G23 can go ~ .22, 9mm, 40S&W, 357 Sig YMMV G32 can go ~ .22, 9mm (including cast bullets), 40S&W (including cast bullets), 357 Sig |