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1/8/2013 9:27:11 AM EDT
WTF?
1/8/2013 4:36:46 PM EDT
[#1]
Meh. Gateway to 19 or 26s. Then I'll be interested.
1/8/2013 7:31:15 PM EDT
[#2]
What are you talking about? Link?


Nevermind.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/01/08/the-new-glock-30s/


What an utter fucking disappointment. Once again, no single stack 9, and no carbine. Instead, we get this.

People are moving AWAY from .45 because of the ammo cost, not towards it.
1/8/2013 7:41:25 PM EDT
[#3]
Nothing new guys, don't know much about it other than its just a 30 with a 36 slide.
1/8/2013 7:54:53 PM EDT
[#4]
Ugh, I am a complete Glock lover through and through, but man they are really missing out by not putting out a slim 9mm. Not my choice but people would freak out if they out one to market.  Glock always claims "there wouldn't be a market", yet they put out a  slim slide 30 ithat is about 3 years too late fr the market.  

C'mon Glock, pull your head out and get that 9mm to market.
1/8/2013 8:10:39 PM EDT
[#5]
I love my G30.  I don't see much improvement with a slim slide.
1/9/2013 3:29:18 AM EDT
[#6]
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I love my G30.  I don't see much improvement with a slim slide.


Well, the slim slide certainly seems to provide for alliterate posts.

1/9/2013 4:26:27 AM EDT
[#7]
I like the G30SF just the way it is...
1/9/2013 5:29:30 AM EDT
[#8]
I was able to handle one of these at a dealer show over the weekend. The 36 slide makes a HUGE difference in weight. I really liked it far more than the 30 or 30SF. I'll be buying one somewhere along the line for sure.
1/9/2013 6:50:41 AM EDT
[#9]
Well, at least I don't need to shell out $$$ for a new glock now.
1/9/2013 6:59:43 AM EDT
[#10]
I would rather have a .45ACP pistol on a 19/23 frame.  They already make a .45GAP on that frame in the 38 model, why not use that frame for the .45ACP?

I know the 30 is close to the same size, but they cut the frame off to short for my liking. I prefer to get a full hand grip on the pistol instead of relying on a magazine extension for my pinky finger.

I don't know what is holding Glock back from entering the single stack 9mm market though. That would most likely be a slam dunk for them since every manufacturer out there is entering that market with great or general success.
1/9/2013 7:59:31 AM EDT
[#11]
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 They already make a .45GAP on that frame in the 38 model, why not use that frame for the .45ACP?


45GAP is a much shorter cartridge than 45ACP is, thats why they are able to fit it in the 19/23 frames without issue.
1/9/2013 12:59:02 PM EDT
[#12]
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I would rather have a .45ACP pistol on a 19/23 frame.  They already make a .45GAP on that frame in the 38 model, why not use that frame for the .45ACP?


As stated, the 19/23 frame is too small for .45ACP.  That's why the GAP was invented.

This picture should make it clear:

GAP -vs ACP


A frame designed for the cartridge on the left won't be large enough for the cartridge on the right.
1/9/2013 1:09:17 PM EDT
[#13]
Dissappointment?

This could very well be the start of a new line of glocks and you want to bash it?


If a ban does pass, this will be the hottest gun on the streets.  The G30 is just "that much" too thick to make an EDC for most people like the G19 does.

If a ban doesn't pass, it will still be a winner.

1/9/2013 1:49:50 PM EDT
[#14]
A new gun is a new gun, so I'm all for it.

Still, I don't really see the point of the 30S.  Decreasing the slide weight just makes the gun's reliability more dependent on spring strength.
1/9/2013 2:25:56 PM EDT
[#15]
I'm getting all sorts of brass to the face on my 30S.  Is there a new RSA or ejectors.

Oh wait.....too soon.
1/9/2013 4:22:25 PM EDT
[#16]
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I would rather have a .45ACP pistol on a 19/23 frame.  They already make a .45GAP on that frame in the 38 model, why not use that frame for the .45ACP?


As stated, the 19/23 frame is too small for .45ACP.  That's why the GAP was invented.

This picture should make it clear:

GAP -vs ACP
http://www.glockforum.com/images/1/0/8/9/6/45gap2-29.jpg

A frame designed for the cartridge on the left won't be large enough for the cartridge on the right.


Hmm......

Didn't know that.

I still don't understand why they couldn't add one more finger groove to the 30 to give it 3 instead of 2 with the mag extension plate acting as the 3rd.
1/9/2013 4:26:30 PM EDT
[#17]
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I would rather have a .45ACP pistol on a 19/23 frame.  They already make a .45GAP on that frame in the 38 model, why not use that frame for the .45ACP?


As stated, the 19/23 frame is too small for .45ACP.  That's why the GAP was invented.

This picture should make it clear:

GAP -vs ACP
http://www.glockforum.com/images/1/0/8/9/6/45gap2-29.jpg

A frame designed for the cartridge on the left won't be large enough for the cartridge on the right.


Hmm......

Didn't know that.

I still don't understand why they couldn't add one more finger groove to the 30 to give it 3 instead of 2 with the mag extension plate acting as the 3rd.


Because nobody would buy it because it was too big
1/9/2013 5:07:33 PM EDT
[#18]
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Hmm......

Didn't know that.

I still don't understand why they couldn't add one more finger groove to the 30 to give it 3 instead of 2 with the mag extension plate acting as the 3rd.


Because nobody would buy it because it was too big


Exactly.  Add another fingergroove to the front strap and you'd basically have a G21 frame with a short slide.   Almost a Glock "Commander."
1/9/2013 7:13:53 PM EDT
[#19]
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Hmm......

Didn't know that.

I still don't understand why they couldn't add one more finger groove to the 30 to give it 3 instead of 2 with the mag extension plate acting as the 3rd.


Because nobody would buy it because it was too big


Exactly.  Add another fingergroove to the front strap and you'd basically have a G21 frame with a short slide.   Almost a Glock "Commander."


Ok, so maybe I'm not exactly a handgun visionary. It all looked so good in my mind though. I guess i just have one screwed up mind.
1/9/2013 8:51:03 PM EDT
[#20]
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I would rather have a .45ACP pistol on a 19/23 frame.  They already make a .45GAP on that frame in the 38 model, why not use that frame for the .45ACP?


As stated, the 19/23 frame is too small for .45ACP.  That's why the GAP was invented.

This picture should make it clear:

GAP -vs ACP
http://www.glockforum.com/images/1/0/8/9/6/45gap2-29.jpg

A frame designed for the cartridge on the left won't be large enough for the cartridge on the right.


Hmm......

Didn't know that.

I still don't understand why they couldn't add one more finger groove to the 30 to give it 3 instead of 2 with the mag extension plate acting as the 3rd.

The Glock 30 has 9rd flush fit magazines, so I don't mind it having an abbreviated grip for that.

The Glock 36 is the one that makes no sense to me.  Glock should either make a 5rd magazine or extend its grip.
1/9/2013 9:36:34 PM EDT
[#21]
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Hmm......

Didn't know that.

I still don't understand why they couldn't add one more finger groove to the 30 to give it 3 instead of 2 with the mag extension plate acting as the 3rd.


Because nobody would buy it because it was too big


Exactly.  Add another fingergroove to the front strap and you'd basically have a G21 frame with a short slide.   Almost a Glock "Commander."


Ok, so maybe I'm not exactly a handgun visionary. It all looked so good in my mind though. I guess i just have one screwed up mind.


Do what you are proposing in a single-stack slim line, and you have a customer


Basically a big G36
1/10/2013 4:13:31 PM EDT
[#22]
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Hmm......

Didn't know that.

I still don't understand why they couldn't add one more finger groove to the 30 to give it 3 instead of 2 with the mag extension plate acting as the 3rd.


Because nobody would buy it because it was too big


Exactly.  Add another fingergroove to the front strap and you'd basically have a G21 frame with a short slide.   Almost a Glock "Commander."


Ok, so maybe I'm not exactly a handgun visionary. It all looked so good in my mind though. I guess i just have one screwed up mind.


Do what you are proposing in a single-stack slim line, and you have a customer


Basically a big G36


So a Glock 1911
1/11/2013 5:17:04 AM EDT
[#23]
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Hmm......

Didn't know that.

I still don't understand why they couldn't add one more finger groove to the 30 to give it 3 instead of 2 with the mag extension plate acting as the 3rd.


Because nobody would buy it because it was too big


Exactly.  Add another fingergroove to the front strap and you'd basically have a G21 frame with a short slide.   Almost a Glock "Commander."


Ok, so maybe I'm not exactly a handgun visionary. It all looked so good in my mind though. I guess i just have one screwed up mind.


Do what you are proposing in a single-stack slim line, and you have a customer


Basically a big G36


Many in LE (here locally) have been wanting a single stack .45 in either G21 or G30 size for years, with the G36 capable of accepting the magazines so that it could be used as a paired BUG.


Still waiting...
1/11/2013 9:27:47 AM EDT
[#24]
It too will go the way of thr 45 GAP. Dealers can't give away GAP's
1/11/2013 10:21:57 AM EDT
[#25]
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It too will go the way of thr 45 GAP. Dealers can't give away GAP's


But It uses 45ACP like every other big bore pistol out there..... , not some goofy round requiring special powder.
1/11/2013 10:22:57 AM EDT
[#26]
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Hmm......

Didn't know that.

I still don't understand why they couldn't add one more finger groove to the 30 to give it 3 instead of 2 with the mag extension plate acting as the 3rd.


Because nobody would buy it because it was too big


Exactly.  Add another fingergroove to the front strap and you'd basically have a G21 frame with a short slide.   Almost a Glock "Commander."


Ok, so maybe I'm not exactly a handgun visionary. It all looked so good in my mind though. I guess i just have one screwed up mind.


Do what you are proposing in a single-stack slim line, and you have a customer


Basically a big G36


Many in LE (here locally) have been wanting a single stack .45 in either G21 or G30 size for years, with the G36 capable of accepting the magazines so that it could be used as a paired BUG.


Still waiting...


Meh,  anything that cuts down any of the bulk of the G30 is fine with me.  The G30 is just THAT too thick.
1/11/2013 10:41:48 AM EDT
[#27]
Hmm......

Didn't know that.

I still don't understand why they couldn't add one more finger groove to the 30 to give it 3 instead of 2 with the mag extension plate acting as the 3rd.


You mean exactly like the +1 extension, or the standard capacity Pearce replacement floor plate like I use on my G29?

G30 10+1 rd.



G29 10+1rd.
1/11/2013 11:23:55 AM EDT
[#28]
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Hmm......

Didn't know that.

I still don't understand why they couldn't add one more finger groove to the 30 to give it 3 instead of 2 with the mag extension plate acting as the 3rd.


You mean exactly like the +1 extension, or the standard capacity Pearce replacement floor plate like I use on my G29?

G30 10+1 rd.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Glock_30-JH01.jpg


G29 10+1rd.
http://www.thecountryshed.com/pg29.jpg


G30 = most versatile Glock ever.
This makes it better
1/11/2013 6:06:13 PM EDT
[#29]
Why does the model number need to be 30S? When will we ever get to the Glock 40!?