Posted: 11/2/2012 10:27:45 AM EDT
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I have a Gen 3 Glock 19 that has been my off-and-on carry gun for several years, and it always worked like a champ until last Saturday. I was shooting paper plates at 7 and 10 yards, and on the first pull of the trigger, it doubled on me. I figured it was just me and went ahead to the next target, whereupon it did it again, but with a surprising twist - it fired three rounds when I let off the trigger. I continued shooting, just to see what it would do, and it either doubled, fired rounds on trigger release or both until the mag was empty. After I reloaded, it failed to fire the first two rounds, at which point I unloaded it and looked it over.
I checked the two ejected rounds, and saw light primer strikes, and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary when I pulled the slide and checked the internals. I'm going to detail strip it this weekend and see if there is anything in the guts of the pistol, such as dust, dirt, etc., as well as looking for any broken springs, parts or whatnot. I've never seen a Glock do this before, so I'm kinda in terra incognita here. I'm hoping that this is nothing that a good cleaning won't fix. |
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Call Glock. Send it in. DO NOT FUCK WITH IT. http://us.glock.com/customer-service/contact-us |
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Call Glock. Send it in. DO NOT FUCK WITH IT. http://us.glock.com/customer-service/contact-us What he said. I had a Gen 1 that did something similar but mine was one of the early ones subject to the Glock "enhancement" that Glock didn't want to be known as a recall. |
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Call Glock. Send it in. DO NOT FUCK WITH IT. http://us.glock.com/customer-service/contact-us This. And hide your dog until the issue is resolved. |
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Call Glock. Send it in. DO NOT FUCK WITH IT. http://us.glock.com/customer-service/contact-us Gotta +1 this, too. |
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IF cleaning and properly lubing, including blasting out the firing pin channel don't work, replace the trigger bar. If you'd rather send it back to Glock, do that. What'ever's wrong is a cheap, simple fix. Glocks are truly simple machines and easy to work on.
I radiused the engagment edge of the cruciform on my old gen 2 G17, several years ago. For about three weeks, it thought it was a G18, but without a selector. I replaced the trigger bar and all was well. |
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Call Glock. Send it in. DO NOT FUCK WITH IT. http://us.glock.com/customer-service/contact-us |
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I assume since you didn't say otherwise that its all OEM parts. If you'd rather fix it yourself, swap out the trigger w/ trigger bar, trigger group/ejector assembly, connector, and I'd save the money from buying a new firing pin if it doesn't have any visible wear.
If you have a local glock armoer, use one of the inspection plate to check the engagement of the trigger bar and firing pin. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I have a Gen 3 Glock 19 that has been my off-and-on carry gun for several years, and it always worked like a champ until last Saturday. I was shooting paper plates at 7 and 10 yards, and on the first pull of the trigger, it doubled on me. I figured it was just me and went ahead to the next target, whereupon it did it again, but with a surprising twist - it fired three rounds when I let off the trigger. I continued shooting, just to see what it would do, and it either doubled, fired rounds on trigger release or both until the mag was empty. After I reloaded, it failed to fire the first two rounds, at which point I unloaded it and looked it over. I checked the two ejected rounds, and saw light primer strikes, and didn't notice anything out of the ordinary when I pulled the slide and checked the internals. I'm going to detail strip it this weekend and see if there is anything in the guts of the pistol, such as dust, dirt, etc., as well as looking for any broken springs, parts or whatnot. I've never seen a Glock do this before, so I'm kinda in terra incognita here. I'm hoping that this is nothing that a good cleaning won't fix. Call Glock. Or, if you are minimally handy, detail strip, clean and check all parts firing control parts. If that doesn't work, replace the trigger bar, FP block and FP block spring. IMO not much to it. Is this gun 100% stock? "Trigger job"? Bought new? |
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Have you done a 25cent trigger job on it? Have you replaced parts?
I have a 3rd Gen 19 that would release the striker upon trigger release. I put an inspection cover on the back and noticed the crucifix and the striker did not have enough contact. Since I bought it used, I don't know if the previous owner tried the 25 cent trigger job, but I had to replace the trigger bar and the striker. You might have to do the same. |
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Have you done a 25cent trigger job on it? Have you replaced parts? I have a 3rd Gen 19 that would release the striker upon trigger release. I put an inspection cover on the back and noticed the crucifix and the striker did not have enough contact. Since I bought it used, I don't know if the previous owner tried the 25 cent trigger job, but I had to replace the trigger bar and the striker. You might have to do the same. Somebody griding on the drop safety or anything else in the trigger group housing could cause that as well, but I'm guessing your issue was fixed with those parts. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Have you done a 25cent trigger job on it? Have you replaced parts? I have a 3rd Gen 19 that would release the striker upon trigger release. I put an inspection cover on the back and noticed the crucifix and the striker did not have enough contact. Since I bought it used, I don't know if the previous owner tried the 25 cent trigger job, but I had to replace the trigger bar and the striker. You might have to do the same. Somebody griding on the drop safety or anything else in the trigger group housing could cause that as well, but I'm guessing your issue was fixed with those parts. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yes, the new trigger bar and striker fixed it. It was hard to tell, but I think the previous owner tried a trigger job and it went bad. Luckily I have tons of spare 9mm Glock parts and was able to fix it. |
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I think I found the problem(s). I detail stripped and inspected all the internals, comparing them against parts from my newer, box-stock Glock 19, and found that the previous owner had evidently clipped 7 coils off the striker spring and replaced the connector with a GhostInc. 3.5 lb. unit that appears to have bent outward a few degrees over time. With no idea how much use this pistol had before I bought it, I ordered a complete set of stock factory internals with which to rebuild the pistol, all except the trigger bar, which appears undamaged and still has nice, sharp edges.
The pin holding the trigger housing was noticeably bent, so that's getting replaced as well. Everything else on the gun appears to be solid and undamaged. This pistol was bought used, and appears to be a "blue label" LEO gun, and functioned quite well for a time, but with the questionable "modifications" I found, it was only a matter of time before something went wrong. Will post an update once I get the new parts installed and test fire the piece. These pistols are a LOT less complicated than I thought, and are actually quite a lot of fun to work on. |
