Posted: 7/28/2012 12:26:12 PM EDT
So today I was able to take my new(To me) Glock 26 out to the range and this is what I got. On the 30th round the slide locks up and refuses to move. After dicking with it for awhile I was able to remove the slide and find this
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The larger spring on the guide rod "jumped" the lip and locked the gun up tight. Now the only reason I'm not saying fuck Glock and ditching this is because it was used, even if it had virtually ZERO wear it was technically still used. Now my question is, how common is this and how do I remedy it so it'll never happen again? This is a firearm that I was looking to rely on if ever needed. It's going to need to shoot hundreds of flawless goddamn rounds before I could think of trusting it now  
*Update* Was able to hit up the range today and fire off a couple hundred rounds. She ran flawless with the Wolff unit. Hopefully it stays that way lol. I also brought my G17 and it made me realize how much I hate the stock sights. I need to pick myself up some Trijicons like my 17 
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How old is the Glock (serial prefix)? I think there was an old style of RSA for the subs on which that could happen. If so, but brand new RSA and you should be good. PVV Hmm, I don't know when exactly the RSAs got changed, but I'm pretty damn sure that one is new enough to have a new one in it. I carry a G27 (PRX) every day with thousands through it. Never had an issue with a sub-compact Glock. But that is fairly disconcerting. 
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I had a related incident. My springs were old so I ordered a new Glock OEM replacement. When it arrived I installed it and found I had trouble racking the slide. Took it out and saw similar to what you show. I could see that it occurs due to required tight tolerance of the spring's diameter. If the end coil is wound just a bit too loose it can slide off.
I returned it and got a non-captive Wolff setup. Very nice, eliminates the aspect of the captive assembly that causes the problem. And it's just as easy to assemble/disassemble as a captive setup. |
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You guys who mentioned the Wolff replacement. I'm assuming this is the one your referring to? http://www.midwayusa.com/product/584673/wolff-guide-rod-and-16-lb-recoil-spring-set-glock-26-27-33
Out of curiosity, what's the factory lb rating? |
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I asked this question in the last thread like this, but the thread didn't get bumped (that I remember)...
Let's say that a Glock subcompact user cannot change to aftermarket parts, but must use only Glock OEM parts in their gun. Only factory RSAs can be used. I wonder if there's a way to inspect, anything in particular to look for or monitor on the subcompact's RSA to hopefully avoid this kind of malfunction by replacing a problem RSA before it becomes a problem? |
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I asked this question in the last thread like this, but the thread didn't get bumped (that I remember)... Let's say that a Glock subcompact user cannot change to aftermarket parts, but must use only Glock OEM parts in their gun. Only factory RSAs can be used. I wonder if there's a way to inspect, anything in particular to look for or monitor on the subcompact's RSA to hopefully avoid this kind of malfunction by replacing a problem RSA before it becomes a problem? There's nothing to look for, and there's no warning. When it fails, it just fails. I believe the factory spring weight for the subies is 18#. It's 17# for the big boys. |
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There's nothing to look for, and there's no warning. When it fails, it just fails. What I was afraid of. Definitely one of the benefits of a compact model over a sub, I suppose. Well, in Gen3 anyway. Hey, speaking of that, have there been any issues with Gen4 dual RSAs coming undone as the OP's subcompact did in this thread? |
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Quoted: Hey, speaking of that, have there been any issues with Gen4 dual RSAs coming undone as the OP's subcompact did in this thread? There have been quite a few instances of this happening. There are pics of a 22GEN4 RSA busted all to hell. I believe the Oakland, CA PD sent back their GEN4 22's partially for this reason. |
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Hey, speaking of that, have there been any issues with Gen4 dual RSAs coming undone as the OP's subcompact did in this thread? There have been quite a few instances of this happening. There are pics of a 22GEN4 RSA busted all to hell. I believe the Oakland, CA PD sent back their GEN4 22's partially for this reason. Would you say that you do, or do not, trust the subcompacts based on the RSA failures out there. |
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Well guys I went ahead and ordered the Wolff guide. Hopefully it will be problem free from here on out. I'll update once it arrives and I get a chance to put more ammo through her. Send some pics to Glock, and ask for a new RSA . They at least need to know theres a problem. |
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Quoted: Would you say that you do, or do not, trust the subcompacts based on the RSA failures out there. I'd carry one with little worry. There are hundreds of thousands of these out there with no problems, the odds of a RSA failure in time of need is incalculably small. ETA:I'm referring to the Sub-Compacts that were designed around the dual recoil spring concept, not the WECSOGed GEN4's. |
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G30's also had the dual coil RSA. Never had an issue with mine. If you're worried about it get a spare to have on hand.
In the recent review of the gen4 g21 by FAC he says that in his opinion he sees no improvement in felt recoil by the dual spring RSA over the Gen3. Makes me wonder why GLOCK chose to change it then. I do like the grip texture and feel of the Gen4's as well as the mag release but I wonder why they felt the need to change the RSA's and the slide to accommodate them. |
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My gen3 27 2007date started to chip away and bigger spring was ready to slide off. Called Glock less than five minute conversation they shipped me new improved design guide rod assembly and also a new rear sight since mine was worn out from drifting it.
The new spring is thicker and the guide rod is made out of a better steel than the cast looking stuff on older one. I have zero concerns CCW with it as I expected this to eventually go bad from reading about other guys having problems around this year it was made. |
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How could Glock engineers take a perfectly working system and fuck it all up, is beyond me. Frustrating. HTR. Bingo. This is why I am still sticking with Gen3 and older Glocks F**K post 1000 wasted Mine is a gen 3. I'm sure Glock would have taken care of it but I went ahead and ordered the Wolff unit instead. It's just dissapointing that Glock is having all these issues recently. Christ, I didn't even finish the first box of ammo |
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Bingo. This is why I am still sticking with Gen3 and older Glocks F**K post 1000 wasted The Gen3 26/27 came with a Duel RSA, and the OP's Glock is a Gen3 (so I guess it could happen to yours as well if you have a 26/27). This isn't about the whole Gen3/Gen4 war. |