Posted: 7/11/2012 6:42:36 AM EDT
| My buddies recoil spring broke while shooting his g27 yesterday, i was shocked to say the least. is this common in the sub compacts? Wondering if i need to upgrade my g33 rod and spring so this doesnt happin to my carry gun in the heat of the moment god forbid. |
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My buddies recoil spring broke while shooting his g27 yesterday, i was shocked to say the least. is this common in the sub compacts? Wondering if i need to upgrade my g33 rod and spring so this doesnt happin to my carry gun in the heat of the moment god forbid. How many rounds did he have on that assembly? With a G27 I would replace it every 2000-3000 rds. Did the gun malfunction as a result? It's not common, but any part can break. |
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My buddies recoil spring broke while shooting his g27 yesterday, i was shocked to say the least. is this common in the sub compacts? Wondering if i need to upgrade my g33 rod and spring so this doesnt happin to my carry gun in the heat of the moment god forbid. How many rounds did he have on that assembly? With a G27 I would replace it every 2000-3000 rds. Did the gun malfunction as a result? It's not common, but any part can break. We estimated at least 1000 rds no more than 1500. It completly stoped running after the shot that broke it. Slide would not return to battery and stay put. It was a late gen 3 model. |
| I had a guide rod break on a G26 and a G30, before I wised up and went to steel. I use the Wolff non-captured guide rods. Never had a steel guide rod break. Somebody on this forum, however, posted that he did have one break in a sub-compact. I'm betting that the one-piece steel rods for the larger Glocks will never break. |
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I had a guide rod break on a G26 and a G30, before I wised up and went to steel. I use the Wolff non-captured guide rods. Never had a steel guide rod break. Somebody on this form, however, posted that he did have one break in a sub-compact. I'm betting that the one-piece steel rods for the larger Glocks will never break. OP said it was the recoil spring that broke not the guide rod. Glocks can function without the guide rod in place once assembled as the barrel and frame keep everything in place and the spring fairly aligned. They may even still function with a broken spring depending on how bad and where the break is. I remember seeing a GLOCK tourture video a while back where they fired 1k rounds continuously and the guide rod actually melted and fell out of the pistol I think in the late 800's range but the gun still ran fine without it (IIRC they had a misfeed around the time they think the guide rod fell out of the pistol but it functioned fine after that). |
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I had a guide rod break on a G26 and a G30, before I wised up and went to steel. I use the Wolff non-captured guide rods. Never had a steel guide rod break. Somebody on this form, however, posted that he did have one break in a sub-compact. I'm betting that the one-piece steel rods for the larger Glocks will never break. OP said it was the recoil spring that broke not the guide rod. Glocks can function without the guide rod in place once assembled as the barrel and frame keep everything in place and the spring fairly aligned. They may even still function with a broken spring depending on how bad and where the break is. I remember seeing a GLOCK tourture video a while back where they fired 1k rounds continuously and the guide rod actually melted and fell out of the pistol I think in the late 800's range but the gun still ran fine without it (IIRC they had a misfeed around the time they think the guide rod fell out of the pistol but it functioned fine after that). I know the OP said it was the spring. Let's have him have another go at it. Was it the spring or the guide rod?? I've shot several hundred thousand rounds through my Glocks, with no spring breakage; as said before, have had a couple of guide rods break. |
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I know the OP said it was the spring. Let's have him have another go at it. Was it the spring or the guide rod?? This, the people want to know! 
I carry my G26 as back up most of the time, but I sometimes carry it as my only sidearm. Still, how many subcompact Glocks are out there? we don't see this kind of issue with the subcompact recoil assys very often. That said, WE STILL WANT THE DETAILS!  
HTR. |
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I know the OP said it was the spring. Let's have him have another go at it. Was it the spring or the guide rod?? This, the people want to know!
I carry my G26 as back up most of the time, but I sometimes carry it as my only sidearm. Still, how many subcompact Glocks are out there? we don't see this kind of issue with the subcompact recoil assys very often. That said, WE STILL WANT THE DETAILS!
HTR. Since the OP clearly demonstrated he knows that they are separate parts and that it was in fact the recoil spring that broke I'd be willing to bet that it was.....in fact......the recoil spring that broke. Just because it's not a common occurrence or some people "have never seen it happen" doesn't mean that it's not possible or didn't happen. My only question would be how was it detected? Did it cause a stoppage or was it discovered during cleaning after the range session? Those are really the only things that interest me. How did it effect the performance of the weapon. Other than that the weapon is a mechanical device that can and will fail at some point. Maintenance will certainly minimize the probability of a failure, but not eliminate it entirely. Sorry if I sound like a dick but threads like this have recently been turning into an "OMFG, I heard that GLOCKs are now ridiculously unreliable because their RSAs disintegrate upon taking them out of the box and loading them" type threads. Another example is the latest ejection issue craze. His recoil spring broke, it can happen. How did it effect the functioning of the weapon and what could you do in a real world scenario to fix it if need be? |
| Easy boys! It was the outer spring on the guide rod that failed. The smaller inner spring stayed intact. It rendered the pistol totally useless after it happened. I suppose it could of still fired if you held the slide forward with your hand to keep it in battery but i dont think id try it unless i absolutly had to. |
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Easy boys! It was the outer spring on the guide rod that failed. The smaller inner spring stayed intact. It rendered the pistol totally useless after it happened. I suppose it could of still fired if you held the slide forward with your hand to keep it in battery but i dont think id try it unless i absolutly had to. Thanks, and yes, shit can and will happen eventually. HTR. |
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Yea came right off the rod
Ok, that is a known problem. Glock came out with a revised RSA for the G27 that has a metal washer at the captured end to prevent this from happening. Call glock & ask them to send you that updated RSA. Yep, that's the problem of which I'm aware, and which affected my two Glocks...where the spring didn't actually break, but, in fact, the end of the guide rod did, causing the spring to become uncaptured. I'd find it really interesting to see pics of the spring in two pieces. |