Posted: 1/11/2012 6:24:34 AM EDT
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I am in the market to buy a Glock 20. I like the idea of the 10mm ctg. especailly for wild hogs. My LGS has a unfired, but previously owned compensated Glock 20 at a very good price. Since it is unfired, I cannot fire it to get an idea of the muzzle blast ect. I am not recil sensitive but I was wondering about the effects of the flash and blast from the ports of the pistol, especially for follow up shots causing some temporary loss of night vision. Or would I be better off with just the regular uncompensated Glock 20.
It is my intention to use this pistol for wild hogs on a private ranch, so shooting at night is a very real consideration. Thanks for your thoughts. |
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I am in the market to buy a Glock 20. I like the idea of the 10mm ctg. especailly for wild hogs. My LGS has a unfired, but previously owned compensated Glock 20 at a very good price. Since it is unfired, I cannot fire it to get an idea of the muzzle blast ect. I am not recil sensitive but I was wondering about the effects of the flash and blast from the ports of the pistol, especially for follow up shots causing some temporary loss of night vision. Or would I be better off with just the regular uncompensated Glock 20. It is my intention to use this pistol for wild hogs on a private ranch, so shooting at night is a very real consideration. Thanks for your thoughts. Get the C, and then buy a non-C barrel. |
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There is no need to get compensated Glock of any caliber, especially a G20. With the 10mm, you're looking for hot performance so why would you neuter it by shortening the effective length of the barrel? Recoil compensation? The G20's recoil is surprisingly tame because of the polymer frame. I've got a damaged rt wrist from a car accident 50 years ago (I guess it's permanent) and I've shot 200rds of my 'nuclear' 10mm loads (165grn bullet at 1,579fps) from my G20L in one session many times without any wrist, hand, or arm pain. Compare that to a 6" S&W 686 where after 20rds of hot 357mag my wrist is tired or a 6" 44mag where after 6rds my wrist is done. |
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Hmm.
Off the top of my head it seems you could be getting a big benifit from the ports,the 10mm certainally has the power for it to be efective. Either way it seems like there is going to be a fair ammount of muzzel flash. I have heard you can mitigate that some by picking and chooseing the correct powders but I don't know. If the gun is a good deal perhaps you should buy it and give it a try,worst case you buy a plain barrel wich for the glocks are $150? Edit-just checked lone wolf and they are $150.95 for a factory non compensated G20 barrel |
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Hmm. Off the top of my head it seems you could be getting a big benifit from the ports,the 10mm certainally has the power for it to be efective. Either way it seems like there is going to be a fair ammount of muzzel flash. I have heard you can mitigate that some by picking and chooseing the correct powders but I don't know. If the gun is a good deal perhaps you should buy it and give it a try,worst case you buy a plain barrel wich for the glocks are $150? Edit-just checked lone wolf and they are $150.95 for a factory non compensated G20 barrel And if you buy a replacement barrel for hunting you can get 6" barrel... |
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Quoted: And if you buy a replacement barrel for hunting you can get 6" barrel... Or, go big and get a longslide upper so you also have the advantage of a 28% longer sight radius as well as the 6" barrel which generates higher velocities with the same ammo than from the 4.5" stock barrel. That allows me to shoot my G20L at our steel plates standing, 2 handed, unsupported ................................. 200 yards away!! (You should see the looks on the faces of the rifle shooters who are also shooting at the plate but with a 3x9 power scoped rifle and missing when I step up to the line to give the steel a go with my G20L and open sights. They smirk at first but then when they hear that 'ding' as the bullet impacts, they get really quiet.  ) |
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And if you buy a replacement barrel for hunting you can get 6" barrel... Or, go big and get a longslide upper so you also have the advantage of a 28% longer sight radius as well as the 6" barrel which generates higher velocities with the same ammo than from the 4.5" stock barrel. That allows me to shoot my G20L at our steel plates standing, 2 handed, unsupported ................................. 200 yards away!! (You should see the looks on the faces of the rifle shooters who are also shooting at the plate but with a 3x9 power scoped rifle and missing when I step up to the line to give the steel a go with my G20L and open sights. They smirk at first but then when they hear that 'ding' as the bullet impacts, they get really quiet. )
Great point.
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I don't use/feel like I need a long slide, but I do think the ported G20, if it's a good deal, would be worth acquiring. I can't imagine that you'd need a longer sight radius, in order to hit a hog. The ports won't cost you but a few fps, which won't make any difference to the hogs or to you.
Many who actually shoot ported Glocks post that they have no negative effects on night vision. I like shooting truly compensated (threaded barrel, screw-on comp) when shooting hot loads. Advantage of the threaded, compensated barrel is that the compensator not only mitigates muzzle flip, but significantly reduces slide speed (felt recoil) as well. When you don't want to shoot with the comp, it's pretty easy to release the set screws and unscrew the comp. If you shoot with optics, as I do sometimes, then a long slide really doesn't make sense, as you're not using the iron sights, anywho. ;) I like the micro red dots. |
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I've shot a compensated glock at night quite a bit, and haven't had any issues with flash. Most people who complain about the flash are internet cowboys who don't have any experience with shooting a compensated Glock at night. ^^^Well said sir!!! Happens far to often these days, so many opinions by those who know not but have read some where...............lol too funny..... 
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I've shot a compensated glock at night quite a bit, and haven't had any issues with flash. Most people who complain about the flash are internet cowboys who don't have any experience with shooting a compensated Glock at night. Yep. Had a G31C for a while. Never once did I have any sort of issue with “flash blindness” or any other of the internet mumbo jumbo. |
| I take that back, today I talked to a guy who saw my 19c at the range, and said he couldn't shoot the compensated gun at night, it hurt his eyes too badly. After talking to him a little bit, he had cataracts, and night blindness. I'm not eye Dr. but would only assume that'd have some negative effects on night shooting. Said he had to retire from LEO because of it. |
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Quoted: Hmm. Off the top of my head it seems you could be getting a big benifit from the ports,the 10mm certainally has the power for it to be efective. Either way it seems like there is going to be a fair ammount of muzzel flash. I have heard you can mitigate that some by picking and chooseing the correct powders but I don't know. If the gun is a good deal perhaps you should buy it and give it a try,worst case you buy a plain barrel wich for the glocks are $150? Edit-just checked lone wolf and they are $150.95 for a factory non compensated G20 barrel While you might think that, you don't get as much reduction as you'd think because Glock's design doesn't produce the kind of large muzzle rise as many other brands. This is because the bore axis on the Glock is much lower (closer to the grip) vs many other brands and the fact that Glock's frame flexes; both of which contribute to a much lower muzzle rise than say a revolver and why the compensators don't provide the huge advantages you might expect from Glocks. Contrast that minimal barrel rise benefit with the dramatically shorter effective barrel length you have on compensated versions which lead to lower muzzle velocities as well as the larger flash signature and I can't see the point of a compensated barrel in anything short of an all out race gun where muzzle velocity is almost irrelevant and everything is biased towards second shot capabilities. |