Posted: 10/19/2011 7:41:39 AM EDT
| I made up my mind to get a G17. I am military so they are giving me the LEO discount, the only problem is having both gens in stock for the same price.... Whats the difference, really? Is one more "tested" since its been out for longer or are Glock enthusiasts more knowledgeable about whatever went wrong with Gen4. I think I read something about reduced recoil but I cant remember. I just wanna buy something that is worh it, with the name alone I know im covered but I dont wanna get something too new that is still has some bugs being worked out. I have a Gen3 26 and 27 that are superb, so... What gen should I go with? |
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Buy the gen 4 if you have smaller hands and need help accessing the mag release.
The slim frame is also ideal for proper trigger finger placement if you have smaller hands. The gen 4 guns also have a different recoil impulse, not necessarily better but some people tend to say that muzzle climb is minimized/reduced on the dual stage spring. Other than that, there is no real reason to get a Generation 4 as they're still having some kinks worked out. |
2nd or 3rd gen all the way. I am not a fan of 4th gen glocks and the double recoil spring design. Having to break in a glock 200 or so rounds before you can rely on it to me is bullshit, we expect this out of 1911's not Glocks. The reason they changed to a double recoil spring on the full size glocks is unknown to me and if it wasnt broke then why did they fix it. Lighter recoil?????....come on!!!!!.........longer service life...really???...Like it needed a longer service life? Most gen 2's and 3's will outl live their owners. Now guys, just my opinion, dont need a shit storm of gen 4 owners all fired up!!!!!!
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The reason they changed to a double recoil spring on the full size glocks is unknown to me and if it wasnt broke then why did they fix it. They changed it for reliability with a light in the .40 versions. I agree that 9mm versions don't need it. That said my Gen 4 G17 needed no break in. OP, the first poster nailed it. If the Gen 4 is more comfortable to your larger or smaller than average hands, buy it. If you don't think it matters that much as you hold them side by side, go with a Gen 3. If it the Gen 4 doesn't eject as it comes from the factory, it's likely one of two things: the Extractor (even some new production Gen 3's are having problems with these) or the Recoil Spring Assembly. |
| If you have the hand of a orangutan get the gen 3 if you have a normal human hand get the Gen 4. In all seriousness get whatever feels more comfortable which is what it boils down too. I've shot over 1000 rounds in my Gen 4 and it's solid not one hiccup. Up until the Gen 4 came out I hated Glock because of the way they designed the grip for the lower Gens. I don't see how anyone finds that grip comfortable. |
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Don't hesitate to get the Gen4, it's a huge improvement over the Gen3. The internet induced hysteria about the Gen4 is way overblown, as usual. I have a Gen4 17, 19, 26 and 34. All have been flawless, my buddy's Gen4 26 has been flawless.
The Gen4 stippling is outstanding, the mag release is actually useful, and the dual recoil assembly reduces felt recoil. |
| I got a Gen 4 19 about a month ago and have over 500 rounds without any problems. The grip makes a huge difference and is a very comfortable gun and I've found I shoot really well with it. And if you do have any problems Glock will take care of it. There were a couple lemons but I think the Gen 4 stuff has been blown way out of proportion you only hear about the people that have problems not the tons of happy owners. |
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Don't hesitate to get the Gen4, it's a huge improvement over the Gen3. The internet induced hysteria about the Gen4 is way overblown, as usual. I have a Gen4 17, 19, 26 and 34. All have been flawless, my buddy's Gen4 26 has been flawless. The Gen4 stippling is outstanding, the mag release is actually useful, and the dual recoil assembly reduces felt recoil. By internet induced hysteria, you mean the waves of people on youtube (some glock lovers) that had range videos with problems? Or the irrefutable evidence that the ejection, and function of the weapons have been negatively effected by the parts changes? Or todd G at pistol training having problems with his Gen 4 17 right off the bat? Hysteria is something generated over something that isn't true, or isn't the full truth. Glock themselves said they put the wrong spring in a number of glocks. And there are a ton of threads on people troubleshooting their Gen 4's with Gen 3 or after market parts just to function how they are supposed to. I have never heard someone Say "Put gen 2 parts in your Gen 3 so it works properly" Gen 4's have a TRACK RECORD, not made up bullshit, Glad to see the samples you have are working properly, but Glock has a long way to go to fix the problems they made in changing the glock design. |
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Haha. No, my hands are not orangutan sized. I have medium/small hands which is why the replys are making me lean towards the gen4. It looks like im gonna have to go to the fun shop and hold them both. Thank you for the input guys. Feel is not the end all be all. How you actually shoot the gun is. I have medium sized /average sized hands/fingers. The G36 (single stack 45acp compact) "feels" wonderful but I only shoot it fair to average. This isn't surpriseing seeing how it is a compact lightweight 45 The 30 (more or less same gun with a big double stack mag)"feels" like I am holding a brick,way too fat and bulky. I shoot it very well,fairly fast sight picture,accuracy and double taps. I am guessing because the fat assed grip completly fills my hand I am dealing with recoil better? My point is try to get some shooting in with both guns,some bullseye,some speed drills, whatever.The results might surprise you. I am priviliged to belong to a club with many generous guys,there is almost always somebody willing to loan out whatever model gun I have a interest in That is how I wound up with the nasty Glock 30 that doesn't "feel" right |
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Don't get a Gen 4 unless it has a 30274 stamped ejector and a 042 stamped recoil spring assembly.
My gen4 17 had a nasty habit of ejecting cases very weakly or directly into my face/forehead. I sent it to Glock on their dime to get the above parts and it came back 2 weeks later. Not it ejects cases perfectly. |
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Don't get a Gen 4 unless it has a 30274 stamped ejector and a 042 stamped recoil spring assembly. My gen4 17 had a nasty habit of ejecting cases very weakly or directly into my face/forehead. I sent it to Glock on their dime to get the above parts and it came back 2 weeks later. Not it ejects cases perfectly. +1 I've seen several videos of this. I chose the gen 3 over the gen 4 when I purchased one just recently. Also, I think there is an active recall for gen 4 g17, but don't quote me on that. 
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| Anyone here that has fired a G17 and a G34 feel a very noticeable difference. I really want a 17 because it is the original model but I would also want it to compete in production IPSC so yall can see where the 34 might come into play. I dont have anywhere near to rent both. |
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Anyone here that has fired a G17 and a G34 feel a very noticeable difference. I really want a 17 because it is the original model but I would also want it to compete in production IPSC so yall can see where the 34 might come into play. I dont have anywhere near to rent both. If this is going to be your one pistol, get a 17. If not get a 34 and a 19. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Anyone here that has fired a G17 and a G34 feel a very noticeable difference. I really want a 17 because it is the original model but I would also want it to compete in production IPSC so yall can see where the 34 might come into play. I dont have anywhere near to rent both. If this is going to be your one pistol, get a 17. If not get a 34 and a 19. This pair is the way to go if you are thinking more than one. |