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8/26/2011 10:33:56 AM EDT
Okay, I know I am to do reliability testing on my primary defense ammunition. so I am mostly just here to vent.  My new G17 is not quite broken in yet (round count is only 300) with range ammo, so I will keep feeding it target practice ammo until I get to at least 800 or so, before I switch over to the premium pills for a good dry run.

I just bought some 9mm Gold Dot 147gr. (that will be my only carry ammunition) and BOY THAT STUFF IS EXPENSIVE!
How much testing is enough before I can feel that the weapon/ammo combination is GTG?


ETA:  I know whatever amount I have to spend on good SD ammo is money well spent, since my life may depend on it.  I just want to know how much you guys think is sufficient.
8/26/2011 10:46:19 AM EDT
[#1]
It's all personal preference, but I'd run 200 rounds through an already dirty gun, so you're testing under conditions that are less than ideal.  That will give you enough rounds to do some drills, including strong- and weak-hand only firing and manipulation.
8/26/2011 10:49:28 AM EDT
[#2]
It's a Glock 17 man your good to go. Just make sure you have a drop of lubricant in there. I think for the most part SD ammo is over rated but that's just me. I'm the .mil we pretty much only use FMJ ball ammo and it fucks peoples day up. Getting shot is getting shot self SD ammo or not. I front load the first 2-3 rounds of my mag with cheap hollow points and after that its all FMJ reloads.
8/26/2011 11:09:22 AM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
It's a Glock 17 man your good to go. Just make sure you have a drop of lubricant in there. I think for the most part SD ammo is over rated but that's just me. I'm the .mil we pretty much only use FMJ ball ammo and it fucks peoples day up. Getting shot is getting shot self SD ammo or not. I front load the first 2-3 rounds of my mag with cheap hollow points and after that its all FMJ reloads.


I like how you roll Brother and thank you for your service.
8/26/2011 12:35:02 PM EDT
[#4]



Quoted:


It's a Glock 17 man your good to go. Just make sure you have a drop of lubricant in there. I think for the most part SD ammo is over rated but that's just me. I'm the .mil we pretty much only use FMJ ball ammo and it fucks peoples day up. Getting shot is getting shot self SD ammo or not. I front load the first 2-3 rounds of my mag with cheap hollow points and after that its all FMJ reloads.


Yeah, this is bad advice. At least use that walmart winchester stuff that's 40 cents per round. Pistols suck bad enough at killing people, they suck much worse with FMJ. The Military only uses it because of treaty obligations.



 
8/26/2011 12:56:14 PM EDT
[#5]
I would have gotten a bigger caliber, but I really wanted a gun I could shoot lots of ammo through at the range and still have a reliable defensive weapon at the end of the day...without having to spend excessive money on the practice ammo.  That only allowed for one caliber: 9mm,  (I also have .22's, and I use them all the time).  If I bought a .45 I would get about 1/3 to 1/2 the ammo for the money I could spend on 9mm.  

I still may get a .45 one day (have owned one before when it was reasonable to feed), but right now money is tight and going shooting is one of the few activities my teenage son enjoys doing with his dad.
8/26/2011 1:06:09 PM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:


I would have gotten a bigger caliber, but I really wanted a gun I could shoot lots of ammo through at the range and still have a reliable defensive weapon at the end of the day...without having to spend excessive money on the practice ammo.  That only allowed for one caliber: 9mm,  (I also have .22's, and I use them all the time).  If I bought a .45 I would get about 1/3 to 1/2 the ammo for the money I could spend on 9mm.  



I still may get a .45 one day (have owned one before when it was reasonable to feed), but right now money is tight and going shooting is one of the few activities my teenage son enjoys doing with his dad.


9mm is fine man. Some would argue that it is the best round on the market for self defense. And you were good in your reasoning for buying 9mm to be able to train more. Regardless of the gun or the caliber the guy who trains the most is always going to win.



 
8/26/2011 1:09:37 PM EDT
[#7]
Thanks.  And thanks for serving, too.
8/26/2011 3:29:39 PM EDT
[#8]
in my experience if a Glock doesn't like what you feed it, you'll know within 50 rounds.
8/27/2011 2:29:11 AM EDT
[#9]
i would at least run 50 rounds of your choice of SD ammo through your carry piece. basically, load up your carry mags and run the pistol through some drills. i know premium SD ammo can be rather expensive, but it's better to find out there's an issue now then later - like when you really need this stuff to work. good luck man.
8/27/2011 5:16:38 AM EDT
[#10]
It's a personal thing. If I run 50 rounds of my carry ammo through with no issue, I'm confident.
Truth is, you can run 2000 rounds through it and that 2001st round could fail. Does that make the pistol unreliable?
It's man made. There is always a possibility of failure be it the weapon or the shooter.
I periodically run a mag of carry ammo through it to make sure it's still running.
I've run into more deficient ammo lately than problem firearms.
Dave N
8/27/2011 6:40:23 AM EDT
[#11]
Thanks, Dave.  How are you liking those trigger parts you installed? (You can tell was reading alot here before I made my purchase)
8/27/2011 7:44:31 AM EDT
[#12]
Given that it's a Glock and you are using "quality" ammunition, you have a big safety margin. In other words it's going to work just fine. Some other combinations of gun/ammo might require a higher number of testing rounds.
8/27/2011 8:43:03 AM EDT
[#13]
Who has two thumbs and loves Glocks?  This guy.
8/27/2011 9:00:06 AM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


Who has two thumbs and loves Glocks?  This guy.


You should check in your HTF who runs the local pistol matches in your area and go out that Glock to the test.