Posted: 7/14/2011 3:03:18 PM EDT
| I want a G19. I'm going to get a G19. I love the small grip of the Gen4-G19.... But issues. Are all of these Internet G19-gen4 issues true and has glock worked out all of the G19 issues???? |
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Grip texture, mag release and the dual recoil spring. Essentially the frames are entirely different. If you want a gen 4, get it. Glock will take care of you if you've got problems. Just be sure you fully vet the pistol if you are going to carry it. I would agree with this. Its not like every other gen 4 9mm is having problems or anything. Just make sure you do extensive testing with the round you plan to carry in it, which is not a bad idea for any gun you buy for self defense purposes. That said if I wanted a new glock I would buy a gen 3, even if it cost more. |
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I have over 600 rounds through my Gen 4 G19 with no malfunctions. I like it as much or more than my issued Gen 3 G23 RTF2.
If you like the Gen 4 grip, then get it. If you are fine with the Gen 3 grip, then stick with what works. Either is a capable defensive pistol. |
I have a G19 Gen 4 and have had no issues what so ever. Love it with about 1000 rds down range. However, in my experience Glock customer service sucks! I had issues with a G22 Gen3. It was a lemon from the get go. Double feeds every mag with several different shooters. Sent it back to Glock several times. Each time they claimed there was nothing wrong with it.
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Grip texture, mag release and the dual recoil spring. Essentially the frames are entirely different. If you want a gen 4, get it. Glock will take care of you if you've got problems. Just be sure you fully vet the pistol if you are going to carry it. |
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Bought a Gen 4 G19 last week. Have only had time to run a couple hundred rounds of various ammo. But no problems yet. I noticed my spring is stamped 0-4-1. Which I had not seen before. So I don't know if this is another update spring or what.
The finish on this Gen 4 G19 is very different from my Gen 4 G17. Which was just bought a couple months ago. |
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How is the finish different? Its more of a dark gray than black. Really flat. Its nowhere near as slick and smooth as the finish on my Gen 4 G17. So much I can rack the slide with my thumb and pointer finger on the front of the slide. I can't do this with my G17. I can't get enough friction. My fingers just slide. I have read that all Glocks will eventually move to this finish. Which if it holds up as well as the other finish, I will like it. Have fired a couple hundred rounds through it so far and don't even have a smiley on the barrel yet. |
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I'm not sure if I read it here or on the other Glock forum. But I read where someone had stated that the Gen 4 Glock was for people that hated glocks. There has never been a truer statement as far as I'm concerned.
I have owned a Gen 3 Glock 17, 19, and 26. Did not like any of them. Appreciated them for what they were, but did not like the feel of any of them. I felt a new Gen 4 G17 one day at the LGS while picking something else up. It went home with me. After firing approximately 800 wonderfully centered trouble free rounds through it, I picked up a Gen 4 G19. Shoots as good if not better than the 17 and is CC bliss. If I liked the gen 3, I would stick with it. The Gen 4 brought me back to Glock. I spent the morning tinkering with my G19. I ground down the bump on the trigger bar to make it like a Gen 3.(with my G17 I just bought a Gen 3 trigger bar and put in it.) Then I polished the trigger bar, disconnector, and the tip of the striker that contacts the trigger bar. unbelievable how much difference it made. It feels much better than my G17 in which I put a 3.5# disconnector in. It's not as light of course, but it's smooth and crisp. The reset is awesome. |
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Quoted: Only six stoppages? The P30 and the M&P9 went through the entire test with far less issues... As I understand it, most if not all, of those six stoppages occurred before the guy testing that Gen 4 went through all the recoil spring "fixes" and decided to replace the extractor with an older model. After he did that, his issues ceased. So if you want to nitpick, once he had a properly functioning weapon, he's had no issues. |
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Only six stoppages? The P30 and the M&P9 went through the entire test with far less issues... As I understand it, most if not all, of those six stoppages occurred before the guy testing that Gen 4 went through all the recoil spring "fixes" and decided to replace the extractor with an older model. After he did that, his issues ceased. So if you want to nitpick, once he had a properly functioning weapon, he's had no issues. Thats a joke and a half what you just said. Seriously man, read what you just typed. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Only six stoppages? The P30 and the M&P9 went through the entire test with far less issues... As I understand it, most if not all, of those six stoppages occurred before the guy testing that Gen 4 went through all the recoil spring "fixes" and decided to replace the extractor with an older model. After he did that, his issues ceased. So if you want to nitpick, once he had a properly functioning weapon, he's had no issues. Thats a joke and a half what you just said. Seriously man, read what you just typed. Seems pretty straight forward to me. |
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So a factory gun had to have parts replaced in order to "make it work"?
Im sorry but im not following your train of logic. Yes, lemons exist, all machines have problems etc but the simple fact of the matter is that there ARE issues present in the matrix, ie the world of Glock and they certainly do need correcting. |
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Quoted: So a factory gun had to have parts replaced in order to "make it work"? Im sorry but im not following your train of logic. Yes, lemons exist, all machines have problems etc but the simple fact of the matter is that there ARE issues present in the matrix, ie the world of Glock and they certainly do need correcting. I would call that gun a "lemon" as you put it, as has been shown in this thread by others that own them, not all Gen 4's are having issues. So again I say, once he had a "properly functioning" weapon, he's had no issues. Does it suck that he had to replace parts? Absolutely it does. But like you said, lemons exist and all machines have problems. Hell the M&P's had issues when they were first released. They've been corrected now, but it's the same thing with Glock, albeit they are being retarded about correcting them in a proper fashion. Lastly, I'm not trying to claim superiority in any product here. Just trying to present a bit of knowledge. |
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I own a Gen4 G17 and I need to just put my story in a text file because I'm tired of typing it.
Went Gen4 because of my kid hands. Had no issues with my recoil spring. After 2000 rounds, had FTEs. Replaced extractor with LWD part. Have had no problems since. Love my Gen4. I was ready to go M&P but Gen4 made it so I can stick with Glock. |
