Posted: 7/7/2011 4:31:51 PM EDT
| I am considering buying my first Glock tomorrow, or perhaps next week (G19). I am not exactly impressed by the stock trigger. How good can it get? A local gunsmith quoted me $70 for a trigger job that he said would put it at 3.25-3.5lbs with a short reset. Is this BS and can a competent gunsmith produce a clean break? |
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I'll second the youtube .25cent trigger job. I've done several, and they will much improve the overall feel. It doesn't reduce the pull weight much, but the smoother feel will make it feel that way. It'll also help you become more familiar with the way everything works and interacts in the gun, just pay attention to put the springs back correctly, especially the slide stop spring.
If you follow the instructions and don't go crazy, you can't go wrong. lukus |
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I am a pistolsmith myself. If the gunsmith knows what they are doing sure they can give you a wonderful trigger pull and a letoff that's very crisp. Most however just drop in a 3.5 connector and call it done. There is ALOT more to it than that for a true trigger job.I think 70 bucks is a bit on the high side for a trigger job for a glock I usually charge 25-30 bucks, and use all modified factory parts and stock springs. If you have any questions I will be more than happy to answer them. Dan No advertising please. |
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Quoted: So, $30 includes the cost of the modified parts?I am a pistolsmith myself. If the gunsmith knows what they are doing sure they can give you a wonderful trigger pull and a letoff that's very crisp. Most however just drop in a 3.5 connector and call it done. There is ALOT more to it than that for a true trigger job.I think 70 bucks is a bit on the high side for a trigger job for a glock I usually charge 25-30 bucks, and use all modified factory parts and stock springs. If you have any questions I will be more than happy to answer them. Dan |
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glock triggers vary by pistol. bought my 26 and 17 both new and the 26 just feels smoother and a tad lighter to me. I did the .25 cent trigger job on both and they have improved with shooting. just go shoot it first, I like the glock trigger. spend the $70 on ammo. |
get a 3.5 connector, use fine grit sandpaper and polish all engagedment surfaces and if your feeling crazy, you could add one of the ejector blocks with the set screw for overtravel. working on Glocks is easy, even if you not comfortable with, just do it.  take a punch and push out the three pins and see what happens! then if you have issues getting it back together, look at a few vieos on youtube! this sounds dumb, but its the best way to get to know you weapon!
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I've read that the 3.5lbs connectors can produce a mushy feeling trigger. Do you guys agree with this? That has been my observation. Also what I didn't like. The trigger always felt like it was "sliding in" instead of a crisp break. The ZEV Fulcrum solves every one of those issues for me. Dave N |
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I'll second the youtube .25cent trigger job. I've done several, and they will much improve the overall feel. It doesn't reduce the pull weight much, but the smoother feel will make it feel that way. It'll also help you become more familiar with the way everything works and interacts in the gun, just pay attention to put the springs back correctly, especially the slide stop spring. If you follow the instructions and don't go crazy, you can't go wrong. lukus No need to remove the slide stop (or spring) for the $0.25 trigger job. |
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I've read that the 3.5lbs connectors can produce a mushy feeling trigger. Do you guys agree with this? It did a little to my Gen 4 G17. I put a 3.5 lb disconnector and changed the trigger bar to a Gen 3. Just bought a Gen 4 G19 this morning. I guess it's where my G17 now breaks at about 4 lbs, but this new one feels like it's breaks about 8 lbs. or worse. Have not decided which way to go on it. That is the ONLY thing I did like better about the Gen 3s. My brothers Gen 3, which is bone stock and has probably had 500 or so rounds through it, has a short smooth fairly light travel, and a clean break. My reset feels just a hair better/shorter. But I would rather have a great break than reset. |
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I've got approximately 40K rounds on two different G34's with Vanek triggers in competition and practice. Not cheap but they are the best on the market. That or the Glocktriggers would have been my second choice. Not ever having one, I decided to go with the adjustable just in case I needed to tweak it. The one thing that I like and the Vanek or Glocktriggers models do not have is the wider, billet trigger. For me, that is much more comfortable to shoot for extended periods. Dave N |
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Pretty light compared to what? A stock Glock trigger can range from 5.5lbs. to 8 lbs., even with the 5.5lb. connector. Sure, they are tolerable. I used a stock trigger for a long time.
And there is more to it than just lightening the trigger. Shorter take up and shorter reset, less stacking will give you more controlled shots. My Fulcrum trigger just proved that to me. Dave N |
| The example I've been looking at is a Gen3. I didn't know there's that big of a difference in Gen3 and Gen4 triggers. Then again, I don't know much about Glocks as I haven't bought one yet. It'll be a bit before I have my CCL in hand, so I'm still considering my options. |
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On my first Glock (G19) I just shot the thing about 18,000 times. Got used to the trigger and it smoothed out a lot after all that shooting.
For my competition gun (G35) I went to a gunsmith who is well known around here for his trigger jobs. My G35 has, no shit, a trigger that I think is as good as that of 1911. It's light, breaks clean, and you can still feel the trigger reset. I let people try it and they look at me like this 
I'd recommend shooting the stock trigger for a while. Give yourself time to figure out what you want out of the gun. |
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The Gen 4 has the removable back straps which will give you a smaller grip than the Gen 3.
There have been some reported issues with the Gen 4 G 19's. Glock went to the double recoil spring in the Gen 4. They tried to use the same weight recoil spring in the 9mm as they did in the .40. It was causing cycling problems. There have also been some ejection issues. Glock keeps updating new springs, ect. I have a Gen 4 G27 which has been flawless even before I made changes. But the recoil springs are the same as the Gen 3. Reliability, go with a Gen 3 or if you are adventurous, the Gen 4. I like the better grip on the Gen 4. The trigger bar on the Gen 4 has a bump on the side to keep it better centered on the firing pin safety. Unneeded. There was never a problem with this anyhow. I replaced my Gen 4 trigger bar with a Gen 3. Run fine and has a little lighter pull. Dave N |
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The example I've been looking at is a Gen3. I didn't know there's that big of a difference in Gen3 and Gen4 triggers. Then again, I don't know much about Glocks as I haven't bought one yet. It'll be a bit before I have my CCL in hand, so I'm still considering my options. The trigger is better than you think. Spend some time pumping rounds through it. Shoot some double and triple-taps from the trigger reset. You will see that the Glock trigger is actually excellent right out of the box. They also need to break-in a little to remove some of the final bit of creep and squishyness on them. It took about 250 round at the range and 250 dry fires to break in my G21's trigger. There are several documented methods of changing the dynamics of the glock trigger, but I do not have any problem with the stock one myself. But you should know that if you still cannot warm up to the glock trigger, that there is an aftermarket trigger configuration out. Honestly, after a while, you will not be able to shoot something that does not have a good, sharp reset like the Glock. I've sold almost everything else in my collection, and the remainders are already cleaned-up and pictures shot for the EE. |
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Why? It comes down to training.
If I have someone at gun point and my finger on the trigger, I've already made the decision to fire if necessary. If I do not intend to fire, my finger is not on the trigger. Just depends on how you train. I would rather have my shot go where intended than to fire a heavily stacked trigger, pulling the shot, so I can have the trigger half pulled while holding someone at gun point. I've never done that with or without a lightened trigger pull. Very dangerous. As has been stated, under stress you won't notice the weight of the trigger. But you will pull your shots if the trigger is heavy. Look at the hit ratio of NYPD officers with the heavy triggers. Dave N |