Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
4/24/2011 5:44:48 PM EDT
My brother is having issues with his G30 when using some SWC profiled bullets.  Ball runs fine, JHP run fine.  When running the SWC he has FTFeed and some FTE, to the point of leaving spent round in chamber.  These are range/practice rounds and a cheap alternative to JHP and we have a ton of them for other 45's.

Anyone running SWC's in a G30?

Wes
4/24/2011 5:54:54 PM EDT
[#1]
Does this G30 have an aftermarket barrel approved for lead ammo? Or is it a factory barrel?

I have a Glock that would rather have mild to hot ammo. It will shoot cheap wwb, but my light reloads are not it's favorit.
4/24/2011 6:06:26 PM EDT
[#2]
Factory barrel.  Never said lead, as I was trying to avoid that debate, but it is lead.  These bullets were designed specifically for Glock shooters.  Very hard 2-8 mix.  I have close to 1000 rounds thru a Kimber Eclipse and could not push any lead out of the barrel.  I use a 240 SWC in my 629's and no lead on them either.  He also cleans and puts some jacketed stuff after each session anyways.

The regular load we use is the 200gr SWC over 5.0 grs of W231, not really mild  but not max load either. Cycles my Kimber beautifully and will knock down a steel plate at 50 yards even with a base hit.

Wes
4/24/2011 9:24:35 PM EDT
[#3]
SETEXshooter - I have the same problem with my G30 when shooting SWC bullets.  I have had no problems at all for years shooting lead out of my factory barrel in the 45 Glocks once I got my lube mixture right.  However, that's not your problem.  Does your ejected case's rim catch on the front of the new round and get ripped from the extractor like mine?  If so, I'm guessing your 30 has, what I believe to be the same problem as my 30.  The rear frame rails are set too low in the frame.  That, and the possible combination of the shorter barrel, which changes the pistols barrel angle when functioning, causes my 30 to refuse to feed SWC bullets.  



I compared my 30 with my 21 and the above are the differences I found.  My 21 eats up any bullet I feed into it.  



I know for a while Glock was having problems with the G30's trigger bars too.  If I'm not mistaken it was due to the same problem of the rear frame rails being set too low in the frame.  I'm betting you have a pretty big gap between the top of your magazine floor plate and bottom of the pistol frame too?



My solution was to switch bullet profiles.  I now use a TC profile bullet.  When I can keep up with my casting, I use the Lee tumble lube 230 (  http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=732706  ) or when I'm way behind in my casting (like right now!) I stop in and pick up a box or two of these http://www.kingshooters.com/45-200gr-fp-p-25573.html  These bullets solved my G30 failure to extract.  I need a few more rainy days to get my cast bullet supplies back up to where they should be!
4/24/2011 10:42:16 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
My brother is having issues with his G30 when using some SWC profiled bullets.  Ball runs fine, JHP run fine.  When running the SWC he has FTFeed and some FTE, to the point of leaving spent round in chamber.  These are range/practice rounds and a cheap alternative to JHP and we have a ton of them for other 45's.

Anyone running SWC's in a G30?

Wes


Mine won't run SWC, some do, most won't. Upon recoil the fired case bumps/catches the edge of the next SWC round, jumps the extractor and is pushed back in the chamber by the next round. I run ball.
4/25/2011 4:38:16 AM EDT
[#5]
Glad to hear/Sad to hear that I am not alone in this.  We may just switch his practice rounds to ball, unless he decides to sell it and get something else.  I will see about comparing to my 21.

Thanks for the replies.  I also have friend with a G30 that is gonna test some SWC in his this week.

Wes
4/25/2011 5:10:25 AM EDT
[#6]
Let us know how you make out with your friends 30!
4/26/2011 1:28:35 PM EDT
[#7]
Sorry for the delay, he can't get to the range til Friday.  Will report then.

Wes
4/29/2011 2:18:31 PM EDT
[#8]
My friend went shooting today and of course his G30 ftf the swc profiled bullets.  Sorry for the delay but it seems to be a common misfortune.

Wes
4/29/2011 3:26:15 PM EDT
[#9]
Sadly, I think it's pretty common with the 30s SETXshooter.  It's a real shame too.  If my 30SF ate everything up like my 21SF does, I think my 30SF could easily become my favorite, every day gun!
4/29/2011 5:56:20 PM EDT
[#10]
I have a 20, 21, and 29.  I haven't tried to feed any of them swc but would like to see if the 29 will eat something similar to a swc.  I think I have some flat point 180gr or some 165, can't remember.  

As for my brother's gun, I guess it will be hardball for practice ammo.

Wes
4/29/2011 6:21:00 PM EDT
[#11]
If you want to use some cheaper bullets than FMJs  you might want to try some of the TC / flat point bullets that I mentioned in my previous post. My G30 eats them up!
5/1/2011 1:36:49 PM EDT
[#12]
One of the possible reasons we have problems with the G30 not ejecting brass with SWCs in the magazine is the rear rails are set too low.  Below are two pictures comparing my 21 with my 30.  The 21 is on the left and the 30 on the right.  Note how much further down in the frame the 30's rails are set.










Hey, they are cell phone pictures and I'm no Rosenthal!




5/1/2011 2:01:51 PM EDT
[#13]
Thanks for the pics.  I wonder what the reasoning behind lowering the rails is???

Wes
5/1/2011 3:55:31 PM EDT
[#14]
You having failure to extract or failure to eject? Please clarify



If you're having failure to extract remove, inspect, and clean the extractor, replace if it's worn or chipped

5/1/2011 4:25:31 PM EDT
[#15]



Quoted:


You having failure to extract or failure to eject? Please clarify



If you're having failure to extract remove, inspect, and clean the extractor, replace if it's worn or chipped



In the above posts it was clarified.  The expended rounds rim catches on the case mouth of the round in the magazine, ripping the case out of the extractor.  With SWC bullets, there is more of a ledge for the expended case's rim to catch on.