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3/27/2011 1:12:38 PM EDT
anybody have one? i wanna add one to the collection for some reason
3/27/2011 1:18:59 PM EDT
[#1]
not importable to the US unless for LE
3/27/2011 1:29:13 PM EDT
[#2]
& if someone does have one, they probably wont post about it
3/27/2011 1:32:44 PM EDT
[#3]



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& if someone does have one, they probably wont post about it


Nothing illegal about owning a 380 glock, only restricted imports.



 
3/27/2011 1:38:16 PM EDT
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not importable to the US unless for LE


The Glock 25 is a derivative of the Glock 19, adapted to use the .380 ACP (9x17mm Short) cartridge. It was introduced in 1995. The .380 models are primarily intended for markets which prohibit civilian ownership of firearms chambered in military calibers.

They are not offered in the United States, due to the characteristics of the gun making it unable to pass import restrictions. Due to the relatively low bolt thrust of the .380 ACP cartridge, the pistol features an unlocked breech and operates via straight blowback of the slide. This method of operation required modification of the locking surfaces on the barrel as well as a redesign of the former locking block. The standard magazine capacity of the Glock 25 is 15 rounds.
3/27/2011 3:09:50 PM EDT
[#5]
Just what we need.... another .380!  
3/29/2011 10:31:30 PM EDT
[#6]

G25=G19 size, only in .380
G28=G26 size, only in .380

Basically no reason to own one, except for the novelty of it.  The only reason they were made in the first place was to get around foreign restrictions on military calibers for civilians.  Complete waste of space that could be occupied by a perfectly good G19 or G26, IMO.
3/30/2011 8:10:56 AM EDT
[#7]
If it's no smaller or lighter than the same gun in 9mm, what's the point?  Is there a market for inferior firepower?  
3/30/2011 12:22:43 PM EDT
[#8]
If it was on a smaller frame it would rock
3/30/2011 12:53:07 PM EDT
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If it was on a smaller frame it would rock


I think that's what everyone is expecting when they hear Glock .380

I agree, if they could downsize the pistol to the smallest that would fit the round, it would be perfect.  All it is, however, is a regular sized Glock with a lot of extra room.
3/30/2011 3:40:26 PM EDT
[#10]
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not importable to the US unless for LE


The Glock 25 is a derivative of the Glock 19, adapted to use the .380 ACP (9x17mm Short) cartridge. It was introduced in 1995. The .380 models are primarily intended for markets which prohibit civilian ownership of firearms chambered in military calibers.

They are not offered in the United States, due to the characteristics of the gun making it unable to pass import restrictions. Due to the relatively low bolt thrust of the .380 ACP cartridge, the pistol features an unlocked breech and operates via straight blowback of the slide. This method of operation required modification of the locking surfaces on the barrel as well as a redesign of the former locking block. The standard magazine capacity of the Glock 25 is 15 rounds.


So would this negate the lower recoil of a 380 round vs say 9mm? The only nitch I could see a full size 380 filling would be for recoil sensitive people.
3/30/2011 6:56:05 PM EDT
[#11]
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not importable to the US unless for LE


The Glock 25 is a derivative of the Glock 19, adapted to use the .380 ACP (9x17mm Short) cartridge. It was introduced in 1995. The .380 models are primarily intended for markets which prohibit civilian ownership of firearms chambered in military calibers.

They are not offered in the United States, due to the characteristics of the gun making it unable to pass import restrictions. Due to the relatively low bolt thrust of the .380 ACP cartridge, the pistol features an unlocked breech and operates via straight blowback of the slide. This method of operation required modification of the locking surfaces on the barrel as well as a redesign of the former locking block. The standard magazine capacity of the Glock 25 is 15 rounds.


So would this negate the lower recoil of a 380 round vs say 9mm? The only nitch I could see a full size 380 filling would be for recoil sensitive people.



I would say that anyone that can't handle the recoil of any of the Glock 9mm variants is extremley sensitive to recoil.  Even the G26 is easlily shot by small framed shooters.  My son could drive tacks with a G26 at 12 years old, and he was on the smaller side for his age.
3/30/2011 8:37:41 PM EDT
[#12]
So, the way I view things, it seems like the only reason to own a glock in .380 would be because nobody else has one. (That would be my reason anyway.)


If they were importable, everyone would have them, therefore making any real reason to have the elusive .380 Glock null and void. (Other than for the recoil shy.)


3/30/2011 9:08:01 PM EDT
[#13]
I just wish they'd make a single stack 9mm.  Like a 9mm version of the G36.
3/31/2011 4:20:15 PM EDT
[#14]
A full size glock in .380 would be a great personal defense option for a very recoil sensitive person, for example an elderly or disabled person.  Simple, very low recoil, reliable.
3/31/2011 4:34:29 PM EDT
[#15]
Blowback pistols have more recoil than recoil operated pistols.
3/31/2011 6:26:25 PM EDT
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Blowback pistols have more recoil than recoil operated pistols.
If they're loaded with identical calibers, maybe. But that statement applied to a 380 blowback versus a 9mm recoil would almost certainly be false.
4/1/2011 2:49:20 PM EDT
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Blowback pistols have more recoil than recoil operated pistols.
If they're loaded with identical calibers, maybe. But that statement applied to a 380 blowback versus a 9mm recoil would almost certainly be false.

You need to shoot more of the little blowback operated .380's.

I used to have a NAA Guardian .380................blowback, solid stainless steel, small but heavy as a boat anchor, trigger pull while smooth as glass was so heavy as to count as its own safety device. Shooting that gun at the range was an ordeal.....twenty rounds and you would have areas of your hand start to go numb. Rarely would anyone want to run more than a couple of mags through it.

Once I bought a Kahr PM9 I couldn't sell the Guardian fast enough! The PM9 was lighter and recoil was not only softer but knocking back 3-4 boxes of ammo was done at every range trip.

Most definitely the .380 Guardian had more felt recoil than a lighter 9mm Kahr PM9.




4/1/2011 3:20:44 PM EDT
[#18]
My wife hates to shoot my Glock 26, heck even I think it has some snap to it. Their is a girl that shoots IDPA with us (local matches that are just for fun) and she shoots a Walter P380, she can shoot a 9mm fine with 2 hands but when we start to shoot support hand or strong hand the recoil is a bit much for her.
4/1/2011 4:18:35 PM EDT
[#19]
I would own one if I could afford it. Maybe just to say I have one.

For those of you that claim the .380 is inferior, I will pose this question: Will you stand still and allow me to shoot you with my gun that is chambered in an inferior caliber???????
4/1/2011 4:28:09 PM EDT
[#20]
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I would own one if I could afford it. Maybe just to say I have one.

For those of you that claim the .380 is inferior, I will pose this question: Will you stand still and allow me to shoot you with my gun that is chambered in an inferior caliber???????


It doesn't matter whether I would stand in front of it, I'm not robbing you.  If some guy is coming at me with a knife, I want the fastest means of stopping him I can carry.
4/1/2011 4:44:17 PM EDT
[#21]
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not importable to the US unless for LE


The Glock 25 is a derivative of the Glock 19, adapted to use the .380 ACP (9x17mm Short) cartridge. It was introduced in 1995. The .380 models are primarily intended for markets which prohibit civilian ownership of firearms chambered in military calibers.

They are not offered in the United States, due to the characteristics of the gun making it unable to pass import restrictions. Due to the relatively low bolt thrust of the .380 ACP cartridge, the pistol features an unlocked breech and operates via straight blowback of the slide. This method of operation required modification of the locking surfaces on the barrel as well as a redesign of the former locking block. The standard magazine capacity of the Glock 25 is 15 rounds.


False

read the book of the glock by pat sweeny

a handful of 380 glocks came in, imported by/for a PD who promptly sold them to civvies as "surplus"

while not illegal, glocks feathers were ruffled and have changed how they handle them, so that scenario wont be repeated.

they are worth money, bc they are rare, not bc they are awesome
4/2/2011 6:39:35 AM EDT
[#22]
Some may want it as backups.
4/2/2011 6:24:43 PM EDT
[#23]
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For those of you that claim the .380 is inferior, I will pose this question: Will you stand still and allow me to shoot you with my gun that is chambered in an inferior caliber???????
I've been working Emergency Services for 20 years, and I've seen a few people killed with .22's.  Doesn't mean I'll be carrying one for self-defense.
4/3/2011 4:29:24 AM EDT
[#24]
Mainsail and txgp17-

I agree, and carry bigger calibers myself.  I do own an LCP which I will likely carry as a backup.  I just find it amusing when people talk about the .380 like it an airsoft.
4/3/2011 5:06:28 AM EDT
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Blowback pistols have more recoil than recoil operated pistols.
If they're loaded with identical calibers, maybe. But that statement applied to a 380 blowback versus a 9mm recoil would almost certainly be false.


You would be incorrect. A 380 pistol and a 9mm pistol of identical weight shooting side by side will have different felt recoil because of their actions. The recoil action of some pistols help tame recoil, blowback guns have more felt recoil because of the way they work. The same as blowback rifles and machineguns compared to pistol or DI.