Posted: 5/10/2010 9:25:37 PM EDT
| So I'm about to go to Ohio to see my grandparents. I'm taking my carry weapon and I just bought a TSA certified lock box so I can take it with me. Ohio accepts our CCW license but I'm curious, since I have to relay to another flight in Chicago (which enforces a handgun ban), will i have issues even though the Airline will have possesion of my firearm? I've tried researching this but have found nothing. |
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You will have absolutely no problem. Your checked luggage is in transport and is not being carried concealed at the time of travel. I have done it 3 or 4 times now with now problems. Connecting flights in a number of different cities. Your final destination is what matters.
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| In a related travel vein, most states also recognize pass through laws where in essence if you are leaving a place where a particular firearm is legal to go to a destination where the finrearm is legal, you can legally have it in your posession (in the case of a vehicle, not on your person and suitably locked) while traveling through the state where it is not legal with allowed stop overs only for food, gas and overnight lodging. Still, it would be best to avoid any probable cause for a traffic stop in the state where a restricted firearm may raise eyebrows. |
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Quoted: In a related travel vein, most states also recognize pass through laws where in essence if you are leaving a place where a particular firearm is legal to go to a destination where the finrearm is legal, you can legally have it in your posession (in the case of a vehicle, not on your person and suitably locked) while traveling through the state where it is not legal with allowed stop overs only for food, gas and overnight lodging. Still, it would be best to avoid any probable cause for a traffic stop in the state where a restricted firearm may raise eyebrows. Unfortunately, Illinois does not. If stopped in that state, and the officer finds a weapon and decides to make an issue of it, you could be in some pretty serious trouble. But...State's rights and all that. |
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You will have absolutely no problem. Your checked luggage is in transport and is not being carried concealed at the time of travel. I have done it 3 or 4 times now with now problems. Connecting flights in a number of different cities. Your final destination is what matters. Gentleman above is correct. And I might add that if you have a firearm declared in checked baggage, your baggage will receive extra scrutiny by TSA and the airlines, and your chances of the baggage arrive intact and at the destination when you do is dramatically improved!! So much so, that it might just be the best guarantee to not lose luggage again!! Quoted:
Haven't done this myself but I am pretty sure that ammo is a no no. You will have to buy it when you land from what I understand. Someone with personal experience should be able to give you better information though. Incorrect. I don't know of any airline that refuses a small amount of ammunition for travel in the CONUS. Most airlines state a weight or count amount, and that the ammo must be in the original manufacturer's boxes, or similar. Since I reload, I keep some factory ammo boxes for travel. |
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Even if a state does, the officer making the stop may not know it. Thus, the suggestion to avoid providing any probable cause for a traffic stop.
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In a related travel vein, most states also recognize pass through laws where in essence if you are leaving a place where a particular firearm is legal to go to a destination where the finrearm is legal, you can legally have it in your posession (in the case of a vehicle, not on your person and suitably locked) while traveling through the state where it is not legal with allowed stop overs only for food, gas and overnight lodging. Still, it would be best to avoid any probable cause for a traffic stop in the state where a restricted firearm may raise eyebrows. Unfortunately, Illinois does not. If stopped in that state, and the officer finds a weapon and decides to make an issue of it, you could be in some pretty serious trouble. But...State's rights and all that. |
| Check the TSA regs at: http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/editorial_1666.shtm. Keep in mind that airlines may have their own regulations also, so check with your airline as well. |
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Even if a state does, the officer making the stop may not know it. Thus, the suggestion to avoid providing any probable cause for a traffic stop.
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In a related travel vein, most states also recognize pass through laws where in essence if you are leaving a place where a particular firearm is legal to go to a destination where the finrearm is legal, you can legally have it in your posession (in the case of a vehicle, not on your person and suitably locked) while traveling through the state where it is not legal with allowed stop overs only for food, gas and overnight lodging. Still, it would be best to avoid any probable cause for a traffic stop in the state where a restricted firearm may raise eyebrows. Unfortunately, Illinois does not. If stopped in that state, and the officer finds a weapon and decides to make an issue of it, you could be in some pretty serious trouble. But...State's rights and all that. The real key is just stay out of Chicago. The rest of the state is no more gun unfriendly than most of the country. Of course this doesn't mean go carrying in the state. But if a sheriff pulls you over outside of Chicago and finds a pistol in your trunk, you're more likely to wind up in a conversation over caliber preference than anything else. |
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You will have absolutely no problem. Your checked luggage is in transport and is not being carried concealed at the time of travel. I have done it 3 or 4 times now with now problems. Connecting flights in a number of different cities. Your final destination is what matters. This is correct. One thing to keep in mind though is if your connecting flight is canceled for some reason. In this case, the airline may want you to claim your luggage and bring it back the next day (or whenever your next flight is). Then when you come in the next day and declare your firearm, you may have big problems if you are not in a free state (where you would be required to have a permit or something to have a firearm). I have not personally had this happen but I have heard from multiple ccw instructors that this can/does happen (New Jersey was the specific example) and results in confiscated firearms and fines. YMMV. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: In a related travel vein, most states also recognize pass through laws where in essence if you are leaving a place where a particular firearm is legal to go to a destination where the finrearm is legal, you can legally have it in your posession (in the case of a vehicle, not on your person and suitably locked) while traveling through the state where it is not legal with allowed stop overs only for food, gas and overnight lodging. Still, it would be best to avoid any probable cause for a traffic stop in the state where a restricted firearm may raise eyebrows. Unfortunately, Illinois does not. If stopped in that state, and the officer finds a weapon and decides to make an issue of it, you could be in some pretty serious trouble. But...State's rights and all that. Even if a state does, the officer making the stop may not know it. Thus, the suggestion to avoid providing any probable cause for a traffic stop. Always a good idea. Never meant to suggest otherwise...  |
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In a related travel vein, most states also recognize pass through laws where in essence if you are leaving a place where a particular firearm is legal to go to a destination where the finrearm is legal, you can legally have it in your posession (in the case of a vehicle, not on your person and suitably locked) while traveling through the state where it is not legal with allowed stop overs only for food, gas and overnight lodging. Still, it would be best to avoid any probable cause for a traffic stop in the state where a restricted firearm may raise eyebrows. Unfortunately, Illinois does not. If stopped in that state, and the officer finds a weapon and decides to make an issue of it, you could be in some pretty serious trouble. But...State's rights and all that. I HATE Illinois!! My parents live in Iowa and I hate driving across that state. |
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You do not need a TSA lock, infact one of the regs is that you can't use a TSA lock.
Every airline that I have traveled allows ammo, most limit to a certain number of pounds (AA is 11 IIRC) and that is not the hard part. Nearly all of them want ammo in the orig. box and almost never loaded in Mags. Some airlines want the ammo locked in the case with the gun, some want it not in the same case as the gun, some want it locked in a separate case... Keep in mind that the airline will have their own regs that most of the ticket folks up front are not too sharp on them, bring a printed copy of their regs from their own site. Then the TSA guys have absolute final say on what bags get on or not, and most of them know their stuff better, still print out their regs and bring them with you. I have flown a few times with a handgun and have never had a problem and it only has taken an extra 2-4 minutes each time. Also, of the few times I have flown no one has ever opened up a bag of mine and looked at anything. They ask me if the gun is unloaded, in a locked container, with no loaded mags. I say yes, they toss it on the belt and I am done. Also, I take a pair of cuffs and lock the pistol case to the inside of the metal frame of the suitcase. This makes it much harder to separate the two. That and it gives you a pair of handcuffs at your destination location (you never know). |
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In a related travel vein, most states also recognize pass through laws where in essence if you are leaving a place where a particular firearm is legal to go to a destination where the finrearm is legal, you can legally have it in your posession (in the case of a vehicle, not on your person and suitably locked) while traveling through the state where it is not legal with allowed stop overs only for food, gas and overnight lodging. Still, it would be best to avoid any probable cause for a traffic stop in the state where a restricted firearm may raise eyebrows. Unfortunately, Illinois does not. If stopped in that state, and the officer finds a weapon and decides to make an issue of it, you could be in some pretty serious trouble. But...State's rights and all that. Um.... no. There's a federal law that says you can travel as long as you don't stop, and the firearm is legal in both your start and end points. |
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In a related travel vein, most states also recognize pass through laws where in essence if you are leaving a place where a particular firearm is legal to go to a destination where the finrearm is legal, you can legally have it in your posession (in the case of a vehicle, not on your person and suitably locked) while traveling through the state where it is not legal with allowed stop overs only for food, gas and overnight lodging. Still, it would be best to avoid any probable cause for a traffic stop in the state where a restricted firearm may raise eyebrows. Unfortunately, Illinois does not. If stopped in that state, and the officer finds a weapon and decides to make an issue of it, you could be in some pretty serious trouble. But...State's rights and all that. Um.... no. There's a federal law that says you can travel as long as you don't stop, and the firearm is legal in both your start and end points. The statute you are looking for is called the Firearm Owners Protection Act (FOPA). It is found at 18 USC 926A. HERE is a letter from the assistant attorney general outlining the statute. In NY we have many problems with the police not abiding by the FOPA. HERE is a letter regarding locking your baggage. You should always try and take a direct flight to your destination. |