Posted: 4/7/2010 9:46:37 AM EDT
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I am taking a trip to Disney World, and I'm trying to decide if I want to take a pistol with me. I'm staying at a Hilton hotel that "on the resort", but I assume that's not the same as "in the park." I don't want to carry in the park, I know I'd get booted for that if discovered. But I would like to at least have a handgun in my hotel room. Who's been to Disney or otherwise knows the issues there? Thanks! |
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You are fine to have a firearm in your hotel room. As far as Florida law is concerned, the room is your residence. Most hotels have safes in the room so you can store the pistol in the room.
It is not illegal in the park as long as you have a CCW that Florida recognizes. If they see the gun the most they can do is ask you to leave. If you don't then you are trespassing while armed (a felony). For what its worth, I carry in the parks. Never been noticed. |
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You are fine to have a firearm in your hotel room. As far as Florida law is concerned, the room is your residence. Most hotels have safes in the room so you can store the pistol in the room. It is not illegal in the park as long as you have a CCW that Florida recognizes. If they see the gun the most they can do is ask you to leave. If you don't then you are trespassing while armed (a felony). For what its worth, I carry in the parks. Never been noticed. I guess my question is if the gun is spotted, will they ask you to leave? I'm taking my wife for her birthday, I'd hate to spoil it by getting booted out. Or at least I should know what to carry and how deeply to conceal. :) I have a FLA recognized CCW BTW. |
Here is my observation. It's worth exactly what you gave for it.
The first time I went to Disney I carried in the park. I would never do that again. I had no troubles concealing, but it was so god awful hot that I thought my weapon would rust shut before I got back to the condo that night (Glocks don't rust easily). It is very uncomfortable. Not to mention you may not enjoy yourself as much since it may make you selfconsious. There was one thing that I thought about while I was there. After you have been there you will better understand what I'm saying. There is such a large amount of people, EVERYWHERE. In the event you ever needed to use force (not likely), the chance of collateral damage, I would say, would be eminent. I really cannot imagine a scenario where the need for force would outway the risk. The next time I went back I locked my weapon up in the car. I did not stay on resort. My boss has a condo in New Smyrna Beach, so afterwards we drove back. I was glad I was carrying when I left town. It's a bit rough surrounding the resort. One hand on the wheel, one hand on the Glock. Terry |
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Quoted: Here is my observation. It's worth exactly what you gave for it. The first time I went to Disney I carried in the park. I would never do that again. I had no troubles concealing, but it was so god awful hot that I thought my weapon would rust shut before I got back to the condo that night (Glocks don't rust easily). It is very uncomfortable. Not to mention you may not enjoy yourself as much since it may make you selfconsious. There was one thing that I thought about while I was there. After you have been there you will better understand what I'm saying. There is such a large amount of people, EVERYWHERE. In the event you ever needed to use force (not likely), the chance of collateral damage, I would say, would be eminent. I really cannot imagine a scenario where the need for force would outway the risk. The next time I went back I locked my weapon up in the car. I did not stay on resort. My boss has a condo in New Smyrna Beach, so afterwards we drove back. I was glad I was carrying when I left town. It's a bit rough surrounding the resort. One hand on the wheel, one hand on the Glock. Terry How bad was the rust once you got back? |
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Terry How bad was the rust once you got back? Actually I have only seen one Glock rusted. That was in a picture someone had posted. Testament to Glock. The leather IWB holster looked like it had been soaked overnight. I don't think any quality gun would actually rust in that situation. But anything that close on the body that cannot get air behind it is going to burn you up. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Terry How bad was the rust once you got back? Actually I have only seen one Glock rusted. That was in a picture someone had posted. Testament to Glock. The leather IWB holster looked like it had been soaked overnight. I don't think any quality gun would actually rust in that situation. But anything that close on the body that cannot get air behind it is going to burn you up. Cool, I'd probably be more concerned by the internal parts in the frame. I have seen pictures of what 87GN can do to any gun in a day of carry so I was wondering if that was common. |
| I think that security in the park is pretty reasonable and the chance of you needing your CCW is very low. Your position on avoiding getting booted and ruining the trip for your wife is totally the right trade off. Also, as someone said, most rigs are not made for the g's you'll be pulling on the rides. None of the scenarios involving a parting of your holster and firearm are very good. Still, I like the idea of having a pistol in the hotel room when I travel. Makes me sleep better. |
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Here is my observation. It's worth exactly what you gave for it.
The first time I went to Disney I carried in the park. I would never do that again. I had no troubles concealing, but it was so god awful hot that I thought my weapon would rust shut before I got back to the condo that night (Glocks don't rust easily). It is very uncomfortable. Not to mention you may not enjoy yourself as much since it may make you selfconsious. There was one thing that I thought about while I was there. After you have been there you will better understand what I'm saying. There is such a large amount of people, EVERYWHERE. In the event you ever needed to use force (not likely), the chance of collateral damage, I would say, would be eminent. I really cannot imagine a scenario where the need for force would outway the risk. The next time I went back I locked my weapon up in the car. I did not stay on resort. My boss has a condo in New Smyrna Beach, so afterwards we drove back. I was glad I was carrying when I left town. It's a bit rough surrounding the resort. One hand on the wheel, one hand on the Glock. Terry I have been to the parks several times. I always carry while visiting Fl. But I never carry in the parks. Payne post hit the nail on the head. I am all for carrying. I carry almost everywhere. You do not need to carry at Disney World. He outlined it perfectly. While you are in the Disney area stop at Spikes Tactical. It's right around the corner. I'm going to stop there next time I go. 
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The chances of needing a weapon inside the park are very small. With cameras everywhere, and a large number of security people walking around (mostly unseen,) you and your family will be very safe there. I'd leave the fear and the gun behind in the safe in your hotel room. I carry inside Pleasure Island, and elsewhere on park property, but I wouldn't carry inside WDW. |
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Terry I have been to the parks several times. I always carry while visiting Fl. But I never carry in the parks. Payne post hit the nail on the head. I am all for carrying. I carry almost everywhere. You do not need to carry at Disney World. He outlined it perfectly. While you are in the Disney area stop at Spikes Tactical. It's right around the corner. I'm going to stop there next time I go. Damn. Wish I had known that about Spike's. I would have dropped the wife and kid off at Disney and went to Spike's myself. Will know better next year.
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Here is my observation. It's worth exactly what you gave for it.
The first time I went to Disney I carried in the park. I would never do that again. I had no troubles concealing, but it was so god awful hot that I thought my weapon would rust shut before I got back to the condo that night (Glocks don't rust easily). It is very uncomfortable. Not to mention you may not enjoy yourself as much since it may make you selfconsious. There was one thing that I thought about while I was there. After you have been there you will better understand what I'm saying. There is such a large amount of people, EVERYWHERE. In the event you ever needed to use force (not likely), the chance of collateral damage, I would say, would be eminent. I really cannot imagine a scenario where the need for force would outway the risk. The next time I went back I locked my weapon up in the car. I did not stay on resort. My boss has a condo in New Smyrna Beach, so afterwards we drove back. I was glad I was carrying when I left town. It's a bit rough surrounding the resort. One hand on the wheel, one hand on the Glock. Terry I have been to the parks several times. I always carry while visiting Fl. But I never carry in the parks. Payne post hit the nail on the head. I am all for carrying. I carry almost everywhere. You do not need to carry at Disney World. He outlined it perfectly. While you are in the Disney area stop at Spikes Tactical. It's right around the corner. I'm going to stop there next time I go. I was just in disney and didn't know this. |
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There was a large thread a while ago and I told my story there too :
If you have a valid CWP that Fl. recognizes you are gtg. in Fl. there are no "no carry" zones on private property basically, so a sign that says "no guns" is meaningless. unless its a court house, police station ect. having said that..... I took the family to Disney back in November. I had checked all the laws and knew I was gtg. We stayed at one of the resorts in the park and took the bus every where. Well our first day in the park we go through the security check and the guys look in all the bags ect. we walk on through. while at the next line to swipe our tickets I see a man approaching me from my left at about a 45deg angle. He flashed a badge and asked if I had anything under my shirt. I told him "why yes I do" as I showed him my ID and CWP. we talked about the law for a brief min, to witch he informed me that while I was on private property they had the rite to not let me in if I was carrying. we discussed the options and I chose to "check" my weapon. They have safety deposit box's there just for this. They don't let anyone carry in the park if they can catch them. No one. Diplomatic security, Feds, ect. No one, other than on duty uniformed officers. They have a good team of people that is all they are doing is looking for people carrying. They are wearing plain cloths and set up every where. After I saw one I started seeing them every where. Any way; so I followed them off to go check in my weapon. They were all very nice and really could care less. The wife got pissed though. After the day was done I went back got my weapon back and carried on. When leaving I talked to the plain cloths guard about how they saw me. He said it was actually hard to tell but while I was standing in line I "fluffed" my shirt twice on my right hip so they figured they better ask. I learned I had developed a habit that I did unconsciously. every time I bent over or picked up one of the kids ect I would fluff my shirt and I gave me away. I now make a point to NOT touch my shirt. The next day I carried with no issues. I was careful to watch my body movements though. It is not against the law to carry but IF they catch you, you have to leave or check your gun or get charged with tress passing. I would carry. people get robbed in the parking lot there a good bit. just pay attention to your body movements cause they sure are. FYI: I was carrying a 4in 1911 in a MTAC, one reload in a CompTac mag holder and a pocket knife clipped to my pocket. They made me check the knife as well. I made a joke about them not finding the pepper spray and they all laughed, then said "do you have some?" . I said nope. edit: my kids are small and we only rode the kiddie rides. I noticed alot of people say you are safe in the park and that may be so, but what about the parking lot? If you are that concerned about it just tell one of the guards you need to check a weapon, they dont mind and would be more tha happy to accomadate you. |
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I was in line at Epcot 2 years ago. I had a Kershaw Blur in my right front pocket of my shorts, long Tshirt, untucked. You literally could only see like 1/16" of the tip of the clip.I was in a tight crowd of about 100 people and a dude walks up, shows a badge and says that I'll have to check my knife upon entry. Those guys are looking for that stuff. They don't miss much.
FWIW, I tried to check my knife upon entry and the lady (about 70 years old) laughed and said"You gotta be kidding me". I said "No, they asked me to check it" . She laughed again and said "just keep walking,I'm not checking that." She wouldn't take it. |
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Been to WDW twice, and carried everywhere both times. If you can't conceal correctly, then they'll probably see and ask you to check your weapon. Learn to conceal better.   yep. thats how they cought meKaneroy, you said they caught you because you would tug your shirt after bending so then you learned not to tug. Well, you still have to bend now and then, especially with the kids, so does your shirt ever get pinched up behind the grip or anything? I'm a tugger because sometimes my shirt gets pinched or rides up. I just run my fingers around my shirt on both sides, front and back, so it doesn't look like I'm giving special attention to one side. It would be very hard for me to not touch my shirt at all. ETA: Were you tucked or untucked? |
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Been to WDW twice, and carried everywhere both times. If you can't conceal correctly, then they'll probably see and ask you to check your weapon. Learn to conceal better. yep. thats how they cought meKaneroy, you said they caught you because you would tug your shirt after bending so then you learned not to tug. Well, you still have to bend now and then, especially with the kids, so does your shirt ever get pinched up behind the grip or anything? I'm a tugger because sometimes my shirt gets pinched or rides up. I just run my fingers around my shirt on both sides, front and back, so it doesn't look like I'm giving special attention to one side. It would be very hard for me to not touch my shirt at all. ETA: Were you tucked or untucked? I do the shirt rim job too to make sure the grip doesn't tug at the shirt. I use the excuse of being portly and making sure the crack-a-saurus doesn't pop out. 
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I think that security in the park is pretty reasonable and the chance of you needing your CCW is very low. Your position on avoiding getting booted and ruining the trip for your wife is totally the right trade off. Also, as someone said, most rigs are not made for the g's you'll be pulling on the rides. None of the scenarios involving a parting of your holster and firearm are very good. Still, I like the idea of having a pistol in the hotel room when I travel. Makes me sleep better. Then I am assuming security is good enough at your local mall. 
Always carry. Just because it is a packed place or whatever doesn't mean that having a pistol (or two) is a bad idea. Its better to have it and not need it rather than not have it and need it. |
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Here is my observation. It's worth exactly what you gave for it.
The first time I went to Disney I carried in the park. I would never do that again. I had no troubles concealing, but it was so god awful hot that I thought my weapon would rust shut before I got back to the condo that night (Glocks don't rust easily). It is very uncomfortable. Not to mention you may not enjoy yourself as much since it may make you selfconsious. There was one thing that I thought about while I was there. After you have been there you will better understand what I'm saying. There is such a large amount of people, EVERYWHERE. In the event you ever needed to use force (not likely), the chance of collateral damage, I would say, would be eminent. I really cannot imagine a scenario where the need for force would outway the risk. The next time I went back I locked my weapon up in the car. I did not stay on resort. My boss has a condo in New Smyrna Beach, so afterwards we drove back. I was glad I was carrying when I left town. It's a bit rough surrounding the resort. One hand on the wheel, one hand on the Glock. Terry So you don't carry to county fairs, the mall, concerts, movie theaters, or other places where a lot of people are contained in one spot? |
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Here is my observation. It's worth exactly what you gave for it.
The first time I went to Disney I carried in the park. I would never do that again. I had no troubles concealing, but it was so god awful hot that I thought my weapon would rust shut before I got back to the condo that night (Glocks don't rust easily). It is very uncomfortable. Not to mention you may not enjoy yourself as much since it may make you selfconsious. There was one thing that I thought about while I was there. After you have been there you will better understand what I'm saying. There is such a large amount of people, EVERYWHERE. In the event you ever needed to use force (not likely), the chance of collateral damage, I would say, would be eminent. I really cannot imagine a scenario where the need for force would outway the risk. The next time I went back I locked my weapon up in the car. I did not stay on resort. My boss has a condo in New Smyrna Beach, so afterwards we drove back. I was glad I was carrying when I left town. It's a bit rough surrounding the resort. One hand on the wheel, one hand on the Glock. Terry So you don't carry to county fairs, the mall, concerts, movie theaters, or other places where a lot of people are contained in one spot? Fairs-Yes, Mall-yes, Concerts-Don't go, Theaters-Yes. I hope you are not seriously comparing these places with Walt Disney World. The popuilation of WDW alone is that of some large city's. |
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Here is my observation. It's worth exactly what you gave for it.
The first time I went to Disney I carried in the park. I would never do that again. I had no troubles concealing, but it was so god awful hot that I thought my weapon would rust shut before I got back to the condo that night (Glocks don't rust easily). It is very uncomfortable. Not to mention you may not enjoy yourself as much since it may make you selfconsious. There was one thing that I thought about while I was there. After you have been there you will better understand what I'm saying. There is such a large amount of people, EVERYWHERE. In the event you ever needed to use force (not likely), the chance of collateral damage, I would say, would be eminent. I really cannot imagine a scenario where the need for force would outway the risk. The next time I went back I locked my weapon up in the car. I did not stay on resort. My boss has a condo in New Smyrna Beach, so afterwards we drove back. I was glad I was carrying when I left town. It's a bit rough surrounding the resort. One hand on the wheel, one hand on the Glock. Terry So you don't carry to county fairs, the mall, concerts, movie theaters, or other places where a lot of people are contained in one spot? Fairs-Yes, Mall-yes, Concerts-Don't go, Theaters-Yes. I hope you are not seriously comparing these places with Walt Disney World. The popuilation of WDW alone is that of some large city's. Yes, for people that have not been to WDW it is hard to fathom how many people really are in there. I carry everywhere......everywhere, but carrying there is the one place I don't do it. For the list asked above; Fairs, yes, malls, yes, concerts no (same reason CQC is almost impossible and every concert I got to has metal detectors and private security patting people down) movies, yes. |
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I have probably been to Disney more than anyone here. It is not always busy. Just keep that in mind. True, living in Fl is an advantage. But unfortunately for us most of us travel at peak season for the park. I am sure that if I went at other times during the year I wouldn't find half as many people as I see there, but FOTM is we only travel there when others do. It really is up to the individual person on how much safety they want versus how much of a hassle they want. Typically when I travel I drive. It's not a big deal for me to carry while driving. When I drive I know that the states I drive in covers my CCW. This is the first time we are flying to Fl and I have really found myself in a quagmire whether I will bring a CCW down with me. I am staying in a great condo right in the heart of Orlando but we do spend time on the town. We also will be driving a rented car that will stick out as a target for would be felons. And last but not least, we look like tourists!
My olive oil skin doesn't count much for a tan down there along with the rest of the family. When we go out I'm sure we look like a good mark. How much security is enough? I usually bring my CCW to the pool in my man purse along with water, fire, book, lotion etc. But while at parks etc it stays in the condo safe. |
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Been to WDW twice, and carried everywhere both times. If you can't conceal correctly, then they'll probably see and ask you to check your weapon. Learn to conceal better. yep. that's how they caught meKaneroy, you said they caught you because you would tug your shirt after bending so then you learned not to tug. Well, you still have to bend now and then, especially with the kids, so does your shirt ever get pinched up behind the grip or anything? I'm a tugger because sometimes my shirt gets pinched or rides up. I just run my fingers around my shirt on both sides, front and back, so it doesn't look like I'm giving special attention to one side. It would be very hard for me to not touch my shirt at all. ETA: Were you tucked or untucked? I was untucked. I think if I was tucked in they would have seen the clips, they are good at their jobs. My shirt does/did get caught sometimes behind/on top of the grip. They caught me because it was a habit I had developed from bending over ect. I was doing it while just standing there. After that my wife and I noticed I did it all the time so I had to make a conscious effort NOT to do it unless it was after bending over or picking up the kids. That would be a normal behavior for someone no matter if they were carrying or not, but just standing there and pursing your shirt would not be(that's what they noticed). I also think doing it all the way around would be better, its what I do now. I also spent some time infront of the mirror checkin my sexy ass out bending over to see how often my shirt would actually get caught. and how bad it would be if/when it does get caught. I found out that it rarely does get caught. I also switched to a bobtail 1911 instead of the full mag well 1911 I was carrying. Switching to the bobtail has made the biggest difference, I cant get my shirt stuck on it if I tried. I now rarely purse my shirt. |
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First time I went and carried I was tucked. Under Armor undershirt with a Nike golf overshirt. Glock 19 in a Crossbreed. Had no trouble concealing but the leather back was soaked through by the end of the day.
Plus I guess you could say I had added cover by way of carrying my four year old girl most of the day. My lord was it hot. 
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I guess my question is if the gun is spotted, will they ask you to leave?
I have personally had a member of our group get caught while carrying off duty. They will escort you to a security office and ask you to lock the gun in a locker, you will get the key and may retrieve it as you leave the park. This is if they see the firearm and applies to all legally carried firearms, CCW or off duty LE (we asked the guard directly and he said this was Disney policy). Illegally carried firearms (and the carrier) are turned over to the County Sheriff who does have officers on the Disney property. If they do not see it, they will never know. They only check fanny packs and bags as you enter the parks so don't plan to use one for CCW. Pockets and IWB would be the best bet. Last time I was there I was stopped for a pocket knife that a security guard saw clipped to my front pocket. The entire time I had a 442 in my other front pocket and he never knew. Final resolution for the knife: the guard asked me leave it in my room safe for the duration of my visit. He was polite but insisted Disney policy is to not allow any knives in the parks. I didn't want to create a scene so I thanked him for his time, smiled, and placed the knife in a cargo pocket in my shorts.
I have been involved in two altercations while on Disney property and would suggest carrying something, even if only a folding knife or pepper spray. Disney security is really there to make sure no bad press leaves the property, they are not too concerned with your safety based on my experiences. The Sheriff deputies on property have always been polite and helpful, I would not hesitate to call them directly should you have a problem. Disney Security is always hesitant to call them in an attempt to avoid an official report. You get a few hot tempers when you get that many people in one location and everyone is spending a lot of money for their "dream vacation", a simple comment can turn into an incident pretty quick. My extended family usually has an annual family reunion trip to Disney. The food is awsome and if you have kids they will have a blast. 99.99% of the time everyone is polite, just be prepared for the .01% of the guests who are a$$holes. ETA: P3AT or similar sized pocket gun, in a cargo pocket (the ones with the velcro flap over them) would be ideal for Disney. Very light, very hard to see, very hard to fall out on rides. |
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Here is my observation. It's worth exactly what you gave for it.
The first time I went to Disney I carried in the park. I would never do that again. I had no troubles concealing, but it was so god awful hot that I thought my weapon would rust shut before I got back to the condo that night (Glocks don't rust easily). It is very uncomfortable. Not to mention you may not enjoy yourself as much since it may make you selfconsious. There was one thing that I thought about while I was there. After you have been there you will better understand what I'm saying. There is such a large amount of people, EVERYWHERE. In the event you ever needed to use force (not likely), the chance of collateral damage, I would say, would be eminent. I really cannot imagine a scenario where the need for force would outway the risk. The next time I went back I locked my weapon up in the car. I did not stay on resort. My boss has a condo in New Smyrna Beach, so afterwards we drove back. I was glad I was carrying when I left town. It's a bit rough surrounding the resort. One hand on the wheel, one hand on the Glock. Terry So you don't carry to county fairs, the mall, concerts, movie theaters, or other places where a lot of people are contained in one spot? Fairs-Yes, Mall-yes, Concerts-Don't go, Theaters-Yes. I hope you are not seriously comparing these places with Walt Disney World. The popuilation of WDW alone is that of some large city's. I carry in large cities. |
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Here is my observation. It's worth exactly what you gave for it.
The first time I went to Disney I carried in the park. I would never do that again. I had no troubles concealing, but it was so god awful hot that I thought my weapon would rust shut before I got back to the condo that night (Glocks don't rust easily). It is very uncomfortable. Not to mention you may not enjoy yourself as much since it may make you selfconsious. There was one thing that I thought about while I was there. After you have been there you will better understand what I'm saying. There is such a large amount of people, EVERYWHERE. In the event you ever needed to use force (not likely), the chance of collateral damage, I would say, would be eminent. I really cannot imagine a scenario where the need for force would outway the risk. The next time I went back I locked my weapon up in the car. I did not stay on resort. My boss has a condo in New Smyrna Beach, so afterwards we drove back. I was glad I was carrying when I left town. It's a bit rough surrounding the resort. One hand on the wheel, one hand on the Glock. Terry So you don't carry to county fairs, the mall, concerts, movie theaters, or other places where a lot of people are contained in one spot? Fairs-Yes, Mall-yes, Concerts-Don't go, Theaters-Yes. I hope you are not seriously comparing these places with Walt Disney World. The popuilation of WDW alone is that of some large city's. I carry in large cities. Congratulations
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Excuse my ignorance but I remember reading something, I think on defensivecarry, that WDW plead their case to the state and got themselves in under the schools exemption to disallow CCW in their parks. The reasoning was that they do school field trips or that they do "educational" training on the premises, I can't remember which one.
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Excuse my ignorance but I remember reading something, I think on defensivecarry, that WDW plead their case to the state and got themselves in under the schools exemption to disallow CCW in their parks. The reasoning was that they do school field trips or that they do "educational" training on the premises, I can't remember which one. From what most of you guys are saying I'm guessing this is false? Or is it just new? False, Disney is private property so they can request you not CCW (or lock it up) without the need to be labeled a "school". |
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Excuse my ignorance but I remember reading something, I think on defensivecarry, that WDW plead their case to the state and got themselves in under the schools exemption to disallow CCW in their parks. The reasoning was that they do school field trips or that they do "educational" training on the premises, I can't remember which one. From what most of you guys are saying I'm guessing this is false? Or is it just new? False, Disney is private property so they can request you not CCW (or lock it up) without the need to be labeled a "school". I was just there in November and got cought, no one said a thing about that. |
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Excuse my ignorance but I remember reading something, I think on defensivecarry, that WDW plead their case to the state and got themselves in under the schools exemption to disallow CCW in their parks. The reasoning was that they do school field trips or that they do "educational" training on the premises, I can't remember which one. From what most of you guys are saying I'm guessing this is false? Or is it just new? False, Disney is private property so they can request you not CCW (or lock it up) without the need to be labeled a "school". Under Florida law Disney can post its property and even set up metal detectors at the entrances; but if your gun isn't detected you can enter the park and you are not doing anything illegal. If your weapon is detected; you can be asked to place it in a locker, or at the park's discretion, be asked to leave. If you're asked to leave; you must do so ASAP or you can be arrested for trespassing. The legality of carrying in Disney or any other Florida amusement park is exactly the same as for carrying in any mall, restaurant, or store that may be posted with "No Firearms or other Weapons Allowed" signs. You may disregard the signage since it has no weight under Florida law; unless your weapon is detected and you are asked to leave the premises by an agent or representative of the owner. Then you have to get out of Dodge. |
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I think that security in the park is pretty reasonable and the chance of you needing your CCW is very low. Your position on avoiding getting booted and ruining the trip for your wife is totally the right trade off. Also, as someone said, most rigs are not made for the g's you'll be pulling on the rides. None of the scenarios involving a parting of your holster and firearm are very good. Still, I like the idea of having a pistol in the hotel room when I travel. Makes me sleep better. Then I am assuming security is good enough at your local mall.
Always carry. Just because it is a packed place or whatever doesn't mean that having a pistol (or two) is a bad idea. Its better to have it and not need it rather than not have it and need it. Interesting. I thought Illinois was not a place where one can gain a great deal of CCW experience. If you are a LEO, or course, the rules are somewhat different since you have an off duty role. Anyway, Is the mall security as good as Disney World? Actually, no. Not anywhere near. Disney cannot afford for things to get too bad especially as Orlando corrodes around them. Malls or notorious for bad security particularly in their parking lots. Would I go through the hassle of traveling with a pistol so I can be armed when I collect rents in some run down neighborhood that has a reciprocal arrangement with NM? Certainly. Would I go through the trouble for a long weekend at San Antonio River Walk? Maybe. Maybe not. The alcohol serving restaurants would make it an awful hassle but in general would be nice to be armed. Would I endure the airport/airline tap dance to be armed at Disney World? Umm.. no. Would be nice to have at the hotel but statistically I think I'm in pretty good shape to survive it. |
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Illinois is not a great place. However I spend a lot of time in other states. I don't see how this is relevant at all to the discussion.
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I think that security in the park is pretty reasonable and the chance of you needing your CCW is very low. Your position on avoiding getting booted and ruining the trip for your wife is totally the right trade off. Also, as someone said, most rigs are not made for the g's you'll be pulling on the rides. None of the scenarios involving a parting of your holster and firearm are very good. Still, I like the idea of having a pistol in the hotel room when I travel. Makes me sleep better. Then I am assuming security is good enough at your local mall.
Always carry. Just because it is a packed place or whatever doesn't mean that having a pistol (or two) is a bad idea. Its better to have it and not need it rather than not have it and need it. Interesting. I thought Illinois was not a place where one can gain a great deal of CCW experience. If you are a LEO, or course, the rules are somewhat different since you have an off duty role. Anyway, Is the mall security as good as Disney World? Actually, no. Not anywhere near. Disney cannot afford for things to get too bad especially as Orlando corrodes around them. Malls or notorious for bad security particularly in their parking lots. Would I go through the hassle of traveling with a pistol so I can be armed when I collect rents in some run down neighborhood that has a reciprocal arrangement with NM? Certainly. Would I go through the trouble for a long weekend at San Antonio River Walk? Maybe. Maybe not. The alcohol serving restaurants would make it an awful hassle but in general would be nice to be armed. Would I endure the airport/airline tap dance to be armed at Disney World? Umm.. no. Would be nice to have at the hotel but statistically I think I'm in pretty good shape to survive it. Either way one should always carry where legal and able. No matter what. |