Posted: 1/7/2008 11:26:55 AM EDT
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I need suggestions for either a CZ or a Glock, here are my requirements. 1.) price range <600$ 2.) I'm 5'9" 160 lbs, Athletic to slight frame 3.) Small hands 4.) Nightstand defense and ccw |
Sorry, I was thinking of another CZ model that was DAO. ETA: 
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I always knew you were FOS 
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Awesome, thanks to everyone for their assistance, I'll be going gun shopping with a buddy of mine and will look at the three glocks recommended *EDIT* Any other options besides glock and cz that would be good for what I want? (buddy suggested I look at the Springfield XD as well) |
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I don't have the "compact" models of either maker but I do have a G-17 and a full-size CZ-75 (SP-01). The CZ's grip might be slightly smaller, but it's far more comfortable to me. The CZ is a bit heavier, though. The aluminum alloy frame on the P-01 should help with that. The CZ has a better trigger, of course, but I only use the single action mode. With the P-01, you'll be using the double action for the first shot. The P-01 and G-19 are about the same overall size. |
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Glock (19), hands down while they are both reliable out of the box (relatively), are great values for what they offer, and depending on each individual, user friendly, glocks imo hold the edge for several other reasons, including: --way eaiser to find very cheap/affordable parts, mags, holsters, and accessories --great CS and backing by glock --longer, better lasting (parts replacement wise) |
Doesn't hurt to look at all your options. XDs fit better than a Glock does to some people, myself included. |
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Unless, of course, the Glock grip frame doesn't fit your hands well. It isn't the most ergonomic of grips. Main reason why the Springfield XD sells so well. I happen to have both a Glock and a P-01. I have found the P-01 to be far more accurate out of the box, but there are definitely fewer choices for aftermarket holsters and mags. But, I've also had poor reliability from non-Glock mags so I don't buy the cheaper alternatives... Please explain your statement about --longer, better lasting (parts replacement wise). Are you saying that the original parts wear out quicker on a Glock but that they are easier to replace? |
You may want to check out the S&W M&P as well. |
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Alright, got out yesterday to check out how various models feel in my hands: CZ P-01: The grip felt great in my hand and the sa/da felt nice. Trigger pull felt good as well. This is front runner based on the feel/weighting of the gun Glock 19/Springfield XD: Grip is second best, maybe it's just me but I didn't like how tight the slides were, dunno if that is a big deal or not with handguns. I do like the safety design of the trigger/internal safeties but I haven't really had a chance to fire any of them so I don't know how "mushy" the triggers are. S&W M&P: Haven't had a chance to feel a M&P 9mm in my hands so i can't make a judgement on it yet. CZ RAMI: As with all compacts, I don't like having my pinky under the grip. I've been told this won't matter much with 9mm's anyways because of the smaller casing. This has the best feel of the compacts I tried. Maybe compacts will grow on me S&W M&P compact: Same story with CZ except that the grip didn't fit my hand quite as nicely, liked the way it looked better, better balance than the CZ. Glock 26/springfield xd compact: These were my least favorite of the compacts. Just don't feel good at all in my hand. |
Wasn't planning on it, between various friends I believe I have access to one of each model that I can shoot at a range (which I plan on doing before making a decision) Current plan is to scratch the compact as too small (apparently my hands aren't as small as I thought they were) and try each larger model on the range to see how they feel loaded, and to see how I like shooting each one. |
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If you're going to carry it, and not play with the internals, and you're stuck choosing between the Glock and the XD, I would take the Glock for the better trigger *gasp*. The XD has a VERY long mushy takeup, even worse than the Glock, and without that nice crisp reset the Glock has. That said, I got a chance to handle an XD that had been worked, and the difference was stunning. The reset still wasn't as pronounced as a Glock, but the first trigger was MUCH better than a stock XD, and slightly better than a stock Glock. |