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12/8/2015 5:40:53 PM EDT
I have read through a bunch of Michigan Law, but I cannot figure out if it would be legal to open carry in Michigan as a non-resident with an out of state (South Carolina) Carry Permit. I know I can carry concealed since it is a reciprocity state.
12/8/2015 9:50:44 PM EDT
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I looked it up on handgunlaw.us. I am not a lawyer but from the way I read the law I say you are allowed to open carry.
12/8/2015 10:18:35 PM EDT
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I looked it up on handgunlaw.us. I am not a lawyer but from the way I read the law I say you are allowed to open carry.


No license is required to open carry.  And police cannot stop and ID you for no reason.

However, if you don't have a concealed carry permit honored by Michigan, you'll have to unholster and lock it up prior to getting into a vehicle.  An openly-carried pistol becomes concealed when you get into the car.

Also, there are places you can't carry unless you have a permit.  And then the restricted places are open carry only.  Bars, large-seating venues, etc.  Of course, the open carry requirement is a virtual default prohibition, because no one would let me into Ford Field or Joe Louis while openly carrying.

Individuals licensed to carry a concealed pistol by Michigan or another state are prohibited from carrying a concealed pistol or a portable device that uses electro-muscular disruption technology on the following premises:

Please refer to MCL 28.425o for the complete statutory text

   Schools or school property but may carry while in a vehicle on school property while dropping off or picking up if a parent or legal guardian
     
   Public or private day care center, public or private child caring agency, or public or private child placing agency.
     
   Sports arena or stadium
     
   A tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises
     
   Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official or officials allow concealed weapons
     
   An entertainment facility that the individual knows or should know has a seating capacity of 2,500 or more
     
   A hospital
     
   A dormitory or classroom of a community college, college, or university

“Premises” does not include the parking areas of the places listed above.  

   A Casino

A pistol is subject to immediate seizure if the CPL holder is carrying a pistol in a prohibited area. The pistol is only subject to seizure if the holder is carrying it concealed, except in casinos.  In a casino the pistol is subject to seizure whether carried concealed or exposed. The following penalties may also be imposed:  

   First offense:  State Civil Infraction, $500 fine, CPL permit suspended 6 months
   Second offense:  90-day misdemeanor, $1000 fine, CPL permit revoked
   Third and subsequent offenses:  4-year felony, $5000 fine, CPL permit revoked  

Furthermore, effective March 29, 2001, per Administrative Order 2001-1 of the Michigan Supreme Court:

   "Weapons are not permitted in any courtroom, office, or other space used for official court business or by judicial employees unless the chief judge or other person designated by the chief judge has given prior approval consistent with the court's written policy."


Click here for everything you need to know about carrying in Michigan.
12/9/2015 12:07:24 AM EDT
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Ok..thanks guys. I'll be home for Christmas and just wanted to be within the law however I choose to carry.
12/9/2015 11:00:15 AM EDT
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MI has some f'ed up gun laws
12/9/2015 9:26:53 PM EDT
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One of those cases where the policies of the large metropolitan area ruins the rest of the state. I grew up up in Michigan and I will never live there again.
12/10/2015 5:07:38 PM EDT
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You know, all things considered, Michigan isn't as bad as people think.  Any person can openly carry a handgun or a rifle in Detroit, or any other city/locality, with no license whatsoever.  And not only that, the police can't stop and ID you for no reason (simply openly carrying a firearm is not a valid reason).  ETA: We have a preemption law, so whacko cities like Ann Arbor or Grand Rapids can't enact stricter gun laws or restrictions.

If you're between 18 and 21, you can OC a rifle with no license or permit.

We have no waiting period, no restrictions on "assault weapons," no mag restrictions, and silencers/suppressors are legal.

It's easy to get a concealed pistol license, and our CPL is honored by more states than any other state in the union (40, IIRC).

Yes, there's handgun registration, but that's about it.  Having previously lived in NY, CT and CO, I don't feel particularly "infringed upon" living in MI.  We're not Vermont, but we're moving in the right directions (no pun intended).
12/10/2015 5:27:03 PM EDT
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You know, all things considered, Michigan isn't as bad as people think.  Any person can openly carry a handgun or a rifle in Detroit, or any other city/locality, with no license whatsoever.  And not only that, the police can't stop and ID you for no reason (simply openly carrying a firearm is not a valid reason).  ETA: We have a preemption law, so whacko cities like Ann Arbor or Grand Rapids can't enact stricter gun laws or restrictions.

If you're between 18 and 21, you can OC a rifle with no license or permit.

We have no waiting period, no restrictions on "assault weapons," no mag restrictions, and silencers/suppressors are legal.

It's easy to get a concealed pistol license, and our CPL is honored by more states than any other state in the union (40, IIRC).

Yes, there's handgun registration, but that's about it.  Having previously lived in NY, CT and CO, I don't feel particularly "infringed upon" living in MI.  We're not Vermont, but we're moving in the right directions (no pun intended).
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One of those cases where the policies of the large metropolitan area ruins the rest of the state. I grew up up in Michigan and I will never live there again.


You know, all things considered, Michigan isn't as bad as people think.  Any person can openly carry a handgun or a rifle in Detroit, or any other city/locality, with no license whatsoever.  And not only that, the police can't stop and ID you for no reason (simply openly carrying a firearm is not a valid reason).  ETA: We have a preemption law, so whacko cities like Ann Arbor or Grand Rapids can't enact stricter gun laws or restrictions.

If you're between 18 and 21, you can OC a rifle with no license or permit.

We have no waiting period, no restrictions on "assault weapons," no mag restrictions, and silencers/suppressors are legal.

It's easy to get a concealed pistol license, and our CPL is honored by more states than any other state in the union (40, IIRC).

Yes, there's handgun registration, but that's about it.  Having previously lived in NY, CT and CO, I don't feel particularly "infringed upon" living in MI.  We're not Vermont, but we're moving in the right directions (no pun intended).
If or when you get rid of that handgun registration you'll be just like Washington!

What you have is still better than a lot of so-called free states, and better than Texas even.
12/13/2015 10:43:12 AM EDT
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Just don't talk about Michigan's knife laws.  Those are a mess.
12/13/2015 11:52:41 PM EDT
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Just don't talk about Michigan's knife laws.  Those are a mess.


As long as you do not have "criminal intent" any knife is legal according to state law.


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One of those cases where the policies of the large metropolitan area ruins the rest of the state. I grew up up in Michigan and I will never live there again.


You know, all things considered, Michigan isn't as bad as people think.  Any person can openly carry a handgun or a rifle in Detroit, or any other city/locality, with no license whatsoever.  And not only that, the police can't stop and ID you for no reason (simply openly carrying a firearm is not a valid reason).  ETA: We have a preemption law, so whacko cities like Ann Arbor or Grand Rapids can't enact stricter gun laws or restrictions.

If you're between 18 and 21, you can OC a rifle with no license or permit.

We have no waiting period, no restrictions on "assault weapons," no mag restrictions, and silencers/suppressors are legal.

It's easy to get a concealed pistol license, and our CPL is honored by more states than any other state in the union (40, IIRC).

Yes, there's handgun registration, but that's about it.  Having previously lived in NY, CT and CO, I don't feel particularly "infringed upon" living in MI.  We're not Vermont, but we're moving in the right directions (no pun intended).



Which is a law enacted to keep blacks from having firearms. The sheriff could have conveniently fail the gun on the safety inspection and take the gun. I am pretty sure that part of the law is scraped now though. They need to get rid of the handgun registration and duty to inform crap.

Detroit is very pro CCW atleast.
1/9/2016 7:25:33 PM EDT
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As long as you do not have "criminal intent" any knife is legal according to state law.





Which is a law enacted to keep blacks from having firearms. The sheriff could have conveniently fail the gun on the safety inspection and take the gun. I am pretty sure that part of the law is scraped now though. They need to get rid of the handgun registration and duty to inform crap.

Detroit is very pro CCW atleast.
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Just don't talk about Michigan's knife laws.  Those are a mess.


As long as you do not have "criminal intent" any knife is legal according to state law.


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One of those cases where the policies of the large metropolitan area ruins the rest of the state. I grew up up in Michigan and I will never live there again.


You know, all things considered, Michigan isn't as bad as people think.  Any person can openly carry a handgun or a rifle in Detroit, or any other city/locality, with no license whatsoever.  And not only that, the police can't stop and ID you for no reason (simply openly carrying a firearm is not a valid reason).  ETA: We have a preemption law, so whacko cities like Ann Arbor or Grand Rapids can't enact stricter gun laws or restrictions.

If you're between 18 and 21, you can OC a rifle with no license or permit.

We have no waiting period, no restrictions on "assault weapons," no mag restrictions, and silencers/suppressors are legal.

It's easy to get a concealed pistol license, and our CPL is honored by more states than any other state in the union (40, IIRC).

Yes, there's handgun registration, but that's about it.  Having previously lived in NY, CT and CO, I don't feel particularly "infringed upon" living in MI.  We're not Vermont, but we're moving in the right directions (no pun intended).



Which is a law enacted to keep blacks from having firearms. The sheriff could have conveniently fail the gun on the safety inspection and take the gun. I am pretty sure that part of the law is scraped now though. They need to get rid of the handgun registration and duty to inform crap.

Detroit is very pro CCW atleast.


Where did you come up with this?

My last handgun purchase never had a safety inspection.    Just drop off a piece of paper to the local PD
1/12/2016 8:47:18 PM EDT
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Where did you come up with this?

My last handgun purchase never had a safety inspection.    Just drop off a piece of paper to the local PD
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Just don't talk about Michigan's knife laws.  Those are a mess.


As long as you do not have "criminal intent" any knife is legal according to state law.


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One of those cases where the policies of the large metropolitan area ruins the rest of the state. I grew up up in Michigan and I will never live there again.


You know, all things considered, Michigan isn't as bad as people think.  Any person can openly carry a handgun or a rifle in Detroit, or any other city/locality, with no license whatsoever.  And not only that, the police can't stop and ID you for no reason (simply openly carrying a firearm is not a valid reason).  ETA: We have a preemption law, so whacko cities like Ann Arbor or Grand Rapids can't enact stricter gun laws or restrictions.

If you're between 18 and 21, you can OC a rifle with no license or permit.

We have no waiting period, no restrictions on "assault weapons," no mag restrictions, and silencers/suppressors are legal.

It's easy to get a concealed pistol license, and our CPL is honored by more states than any other state in the union (40, IIRC).

Yes, there's handgun registration, but that's about it.  Having previously lived in NY, CT and CO, I don't feel particularly "infringed upon" living in MI.  We're not Vermont, but we're moving in the right directions (no pun intended).



Which is a law enacted to keep blacks from having firearms. The sheriff could have conveniently fail the gun on the safety inspection and take the gun. I am pretty sure that part of the law is scraped now though. They need to get rid of the handgun registration and duty to inform crap.

Detroit is very pro CCW atleast.


Where did you come up with this?

My last handgun purchase never had a safety inspection.    Just drop off a piece of paper to the local PD

Your last one, yes.  But when I was buying my first pistols 25 years ago I went to the sheriff's dept. took a test to get a purchase permit. Then I went to the store to buy the pistol.  Then I went back to the sheriff's dept. to get a "safety inspection".   Only after that was the gun mine.  The safety inspection law was gutted 10-15 years ago IIRC.
1/12/2016 9:59:11 PM EDT
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Where did you come up with this?

My last handgun purchase never had a safety inspection.    Just drop off a piece of paper to the local PD
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Just don't talk about Michigan's knife laws.  Those are a mess.


As long as you do not have "criminal intent" any knife is legal according to state law.


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One of those cases where the policies of the large metropolitan area ruins the rest of the state. I grew up up in Michigan and I will never live there again.


You know, all things considered, Michigan isn't as bad as people think.  Any person can openly carry a handgun or a rifle in Detroit, or any other city/locality, with no license whatsoever.  And not only that, the police can't stop and ID you for no reason (simply openly carrying a firearm is not a valid reason).  ETA: We have a preemption law, so whacko cities like Ann Arbor or Grand Rapids can't enact stricter gun laws or restrictions.

If you're between 18 and 21, you can OC a rifle with no license or permit.

We have no waiting period, no restrictions on "assault weapons," no mag restrictions, and silencers/suppressors are legal.

It's easy to get a concealed pistol license, and our CPL is honored by more states than any other state in the union (40, IIRC).

Yes, there's handgun registration, but that's about it.  Having previously lived in NY, CT and CO, I don't feel particularly "infringed upon" living in MI.  We're not Vermont, but we're moving in the right directions (no pun intended).



Which is a law enacted to keep blacks from having firearms. The sheriff could have conveniently fail the gun on the safety inspection and take the gun. I am pretty sure that part of the law is scraped now though. They need to get rid of the handgun registration and duty to inform crap.

Detroit is very pro CCW atleast.


Where did you come up with this?

My last handgun purchase never had a safety inspection.    Just drop off a piece of paper to the local PD


The racist roots of many of Michigan's gun laws are pretty well-documented. Pistol permitting is one example.

When I lived there, I only bothered to register a handgun once.