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Posted: 6/19/2012 6:41:40 PM EDT
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LK-09 in action
Bulgarian Ak-74 Kit AK Builder Flat AK Builder Rivet Saiga GB & SB welded up Saiga HG trimmed Custom GP 7" Barrel threaded 1/2-28 Romy UF trunnion Ace Stock AR-15 Birdcage FH Runs great shoots 5" @ 50yrds.
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Just to make sure folks know, he must be referring to another site because he was not banned from any section on this forum. I do apologize for that HalLife is correct it was not this forum I received the ban from. I have always found the mods on ARF.com to be fare and open minded willing to stand up or down when required. The one thing I do like about this forum is consistency of the moderation. Jim |
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Stupid question - Blue painters tape/masking tape? Looking at the idea myself When I go to the range I like to have my magazines come home with me not my friend or his friend I didn't know and or trust
I actually now us Yellow 5.45 Black 5.56 Green 7.62x25 Blue 7.62x39 Red 9mm Purple .308 Yellow/Black 54r etc I went to the range with a few friends and one of them loaded a 545 magazine with .223, 7.62x39, & 545. Now in his defense he did get a AR Pmag full of 7.62x39 (20) and than he charged the 545 with a 762 WTF retard rite? |
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Good for you, I figured that was what happened and I would have done the exact same thing. They jumped on me a few times for even discussing converting the 106 pistol to 5.45. I will pb pick up one of your **rifles** at a later point, but have to wait for funds to recover from the pistols and the form 1s that got sent out.
I'm curious though, I have several SF trunnions sitting around, along with a few krink and ak100 fsb(s). What would the difference in price be for the sf trunnion to replace the pistol/rifle rear trunnion along with the ak100 fsb on a 10" barrel? You can pm me the price if you would like. Edited. Regards, Remington Quoted:
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Smart system, SaigaMan! I'll have to try something along that line myself. Thanks for the tip! And why, 'zactly DID the AK forum ban you over a perfectly good looking gun? |
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Did people get upset because you were calling it a pistol or originally built it as a pistol? Rifle caliber pistols, ammo importation, etc..... They are afraid if people start building 5.45 pistols it will get the ATF's attention and they will rule the 5.45 a pistol caliber thus stopping the ability to import the surplus ammo. |
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Did people get upset because you were calling it a pistol or originally built it as a pistol? Rifle caliber pistols, ammo importation, etc..... They are afraid if people start building 5.45 pistols it will get the ATF's attention and they will rule the 5.45 a pistol caliber thus stopping the ability to import the surplus ammo. Since Russia is the only country using 5.45 ammo now and with downsize in military's around the world and change in war strategies not to mention the ability to move men equipment and supplies around. Do you really think surplus ammo is going to ever be like it was 10, 20 30 40 50 or 60 yrs ago. I will be surprised if we see more 5.45. We all need to face the fact a 20 round box of Wolf/Tula will be 5.99 for 556, 762, 545. Jim |
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Did people get upset because you were calling it a pistol or originally built it as a pistol? Rifle caliber pistols, ammo importation, etc..... They are afraid if people start building 5.45 pistols it will get the ATF's attention and they will rule the 5.45 a pistol caliber thus stopping the ability to import the surplus ammo. Since Russia is the only country using 5.45 ammo now and with downsize in military's around the world and change in war strategies not to mention the ability to move men equipment and supplies around. Do you really think surplus ammo is going to ever be like it was 10, 20 30 40 50 or 60 yrs ago. I will be surprised if we see more 5.45. We all need to face the fact a 20 round box of Wolf/Tula will be 5.99 for 556, 762, 545. Jim The question is how soon we will be forced to spend that kind of money for this ammunition caliber. If you make 5.45 pistols, it'll undoubtedly be sooner than if you don't. But whatever, make your $$$ and nevermind that it'll likely result in us losing our last cheap surplus ammunition source that isn't 7.62x54R. Capitalism and all that. Just don't be surprised or act shocked when people who recognize that you are likely screwing them over on cheap rifle ammunition just to make a buck don't like it and tell you as much. There is a metric shitton of 5.45 still in the wild, and what you are doing could very well result in that ammunition becoming unimportable. That's just the fact of the matter, like it or not. You can't deny this is the case because we have an existing case to look at with 7.62x39 that proves it can and will likely happen. Obviously, keep telling yourself whatever you need to to be OK with it. |
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Did people get upset because you were calling it a pistol or originally built it as a pistol? Rifle caliber pistols, ammo importation, etc..... They are afraid if people start building 5.45 pistols it will get the ATF's attention and they will rule the 5.45 a pistol caliber thus stopping the ability to import the surplus ammo. Since Russia is the only country using 5.45 ammo now and with downsize in military's around the world and change in war strategies not to mention the ability to move men equipment and supplies around. Do you really think surplus ammo is going to ever be like it was 10, 20 30 40 50 or 60 yrs ago. I will be surprised if we see more 5.45. We all need to face the fact a 20 round box of Wolf/Tula will be 5.99 for 556, 762, 545. Jim The question is how soon we will be forced to spend that kind of money for this ammunition caliber. If you make 5.45 pistols, it'll undoubtedly be sooner than if you don't. But whatever, make your $$$ and nevermind that it'll likely result in us losing our last cheap surplus ammunition source that isn't 7.62x54R. Capitalism and all that. Just don't be surprised or act shocked when people who recognize that you are likely screwing them over on cheap rifle ammunition just to make a buck don't like it and tell you as much. There is a metric shitton of 5.45 still in the wild, and what you are doing could very well result in that ammunition becoming unimportable. That's just the fact of the matter, like it or not. You can't deny this is the case because we have an existing case to look at with 7.62x39 that proves it can and will likely happen. Obviously, keep telling yourself whatever you need to to be OK with it. I really do see what your saying I do not agree with it. I am not CAI or Arsenal Inc and I can not see the ban over my pistol builds. There are other reasons for Chinese ammo ban not including the steel core. At the time of that ban the US was making a strong statement on China. The big reason stated in the ban was the ability of the ammo to defeat current LE body armor. You look at 7n6 ammo and current LE body armor and you will see a major difference. Furthermore I own more 5.45 weapons than I do any other caliber. I love the round. I also standby what I wrote before SURPLUS AMMO IS NEVER GOING TO BE WHAT IT WAS. I would suggest you by some ammo and a pistol before the ban. Also what about all the74 pistols built on krink kits all over the country. Krebs, Red Jacket, and several others have been being made for quite awhile. Jim |
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Did people get upset because you were calling it a pistol or originally built it as a pistol? Rifle caliber pistols, ammo importation, etc..... They are afraid if people start building 5.45 pistols it will get the ATF's attention and they will rule the 5.45 a pistol caliber thus stopping the ability to import the surplus ammo. Since Russia is the only country using 5.45 ammo now and with downsize in military's around the world and change in war strategies not to mention the ability to move men equipment and supplies around. Do you really think surplus ammo is going to ever be like it was 10, 20 30 40 50 or 60 yrs ago. I will be surprised if we see more 5.45. We all need to face the fact a 20 round box of Wolf/Tula will be 5.99 for 556, 762, 545. Jim The question is how soon we will be forced to spend that kind of money for this ammunition caliber. If you make 5.45 pistols, it'll undoubtedly be sooner than if you don't. But whatever, make your $$$ and nevermind that it'll likely result in us losing our last cheap surplus ammunition source that isn't 7.62x54R. Capitalism and all that. Just don't be surprised or act shocked when people who recognize that you are likely screwing them over on cheap rifle ammunition just to make a buck don't like it and tell you as much. There is a metric shitton of 5.45 still in the wild, and what you are doing could very well result in that ammunition becoming unimportable. That's just the fact of the matter, like it or not. You can't deny this is the case because we have an existing case to look at with 7.62x39 that proves it can and will likely happen. Obviously, keep telling yourself whatever you need to to be OK with it. Obviously, you need to pull your head out of your ass. Just like the thousands of others who keep spewing this shit you have NEVER even read the actual rules that govern the banning of ammunition. 5.45x39 does NOT fall within the spectrum of ammunition that can be labeled as "armor piercing pistol ammunition". 7.62x39 was banned because it DOES fall within the regulations, and Olympic fucked it up for everyone. Robinson Armament has been making their XCR pistols in 5.45x39 for some time now and nothing has happened. Why? Probably because someone over there stopped being a follower and actually READ the regulations and found that 5.45x39 was not affected. |
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and than he charged the 545 with a 762 WTF retard rite?