If you're asking about the Zhukov stock, it's higher than an AKM stock.
Never had an AK with an AR stock so I cannot compare.

Good info on the Zhukov thanks, I also would like to know about the MOE stocks cheek weld  also.
Thanks.

It's a little higher than a standard stock, enough that I really have to push my head down to get a good iron sight picture.  I'd say it sits a little lower than an AR adapter depending on which one it is.  I had a Canis adapter on mine previously with a CTR and the MOE AK stock is just a tad lower.  I had bought a cheek riser when I got the stock because I thought I would need it to get a good cheekweld for my red dot, but I ended up not using it and feel the plain stock works perfect.

Can anyone tell me if the MOE handguards will work with the CAI Zastava npap underfolder? Thanks!

What dot and mount it is that Minky?

First gen RS Products AKML, before they changed the design.  Dot is an older model Primary Arms micro.  Here's an old picture of the other side of the gun showing the mount

Nice clean rifle, I like it.

What is the length of pull?

Thanks.

Not the standard MOE handguards; you'll have to wait for the Yugo-specific MOE handguards to drop later this year.

Still need to finish her, but I got the Magpul stuff on last night. I can't decide if I want another Ultimak on this one or something from RS.




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recent pics

Cool thing about MOE AK stock is that you can add israel bandage and TK4 Tourniquet to it just like Soviets do with their rubber ones and bandage.







Here's a picture of the whole rifle if you're curious. Currently I think it's a well balanced rifle (pardon the pun)

Westernization AK

Hay SPQR-476,

Any Idea when the other colors will be shipped out?


Thanks,

B62stew

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And it works great!!!! Hinge is very strong and ......IT DOES NOT FOOKIN RATTLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arisaka hand stop feels good on the Zhukov.

After taking the pic and playing with it more, I've moved the stop one step back.


Arisaka MLOK Handstop by David Pyzik, on Flickr

I keep checking the MAGPUL website.  So Far you can order the Black, Tan, or Stealth Grey AK MOE STOCK.  Next in Line is OD GREEN

Does it work with the yugo m70ab2 underfolder?

No, but Magpul has Yugo-compatible furniture on the way

I would like some opinions concerning the MOE stock. If the storage compartment was NOT an issue, why would you prefer the MOE stock over a standard polymer stock like the ones commonly seen on Arsenal AKMs?

Comparing MOE stock with Arsenal Polymer Stock, here's what I have discovered so far:

1. The butt of MOE is grippy compared to Arsenal's which is made of metal. That helps reduce stock from moving around on your shoulder.

2. Arsenal only have one fixed spot for sling. MOE offers 3 spots. One is a hole for sling loop, other two can be used with quick disconnect. I've seen other using 550 paracord through the quick disconnect hole for sling attachment.

3. From my experience with several AKs, Sometimes the cleaning/repair kit would have difficulty coming out of Arsenal's buttstock hole. I have had one that requires me to use screwdriver to remove the butt plate in order to get the kit out. MOE's on other hand, make it easier to retrieve your cleaning/repair kit with no problem. There's also additional space in storage for other stuff along with the kit in MOE stock compartment.

4. Sight alignment with your cheek on top of stock; Arsenal stock make your sight dip lower while MOE stock make your view even with the sight. I prefer MOE over Arsenal's for that reason so I could use mini red dot sight without having to buy Magpul's cheek rest. If you plan to slap 4x or other kind of long range scope, I guess you will need cheek rest based on how high the scope is installed on your AK.

5. Sturdiness; MOE stock feels more stronger and rugged. You can use the butt part to knock out your opponent if needed. I feel that Arsenal is too hollow to be sturdy enough to knock someone out.

6: Possible modification; with Arsenal's you can slap stickers or spray paint it to personalize it. I have seen some people add quick disconnect mount on it. With MOE, you can paracord the lower support arm, you can put bandage inside the hole and use elastic tourniquet to hold it in place. I have a feeling that in near future that someone will make a cordura pouch to fit inside the hole for additional stuff to carry and provide soft surface on top of cheek rest. There will probably be other vendor who will provide a mount to put quick disconnect sockets near the rear trunnion of AK for folks who prefer 3-point sling system.

I think you're just sitting on the fence, just go ahead and order one. You can always send it back if you don't like it.

Awesome breakdown. Thanks.

Thank you very much.  Does anyone know why the OD green MOE stock one is taking so long?

Okay, I have a follow-up question about the Magpul stocks. I would like to ask opinions using a hypothetical frame of mind. IF... the Zhukov stock DID NOT fold, which would you consider the better stock... Zhukov or MOE? Why?

If I was wearing body armor from time to time, I would choose Zhukov for its ability to change the length of stock.

Other reason that lack of wanting length adjustability, don't see why not getting MOE (which you can change length with varying thickness of butt pads)

Overall I like the MOE stock, but the overly complicated attachment system is just silly, somebody waaaay overthought it and it looks to be a potential weak point. It's definitely not in keeping with the AK's simple and sturdy design philosophy. Would have been much better to do a simple monoblock design that you screw into as almost all other AK stocks have instead of this cheap wedgie doo-dad. I'll be converting this one shortly, fiberglass and epoxy over all that nonsense then file to fit.

The storage space is cool, AK cleaning kit fits perfectly with room for other stuff, and stock looks good on the rifle.

I like the attachment system on the AK MOE, it works out on the not so perfectly assembled receivers on the cheaper AKs. like the WASR I have.
When they slap these together they just drive the wood stock home and zap the 2 wood screws in and good to go, not a tight tolerance deal.

I replaced a Magpul MOE M4 stock on a collapsible stock adapter buffer type tube outfit with the MOE AK stock.

When installing the M4 stock adapter there was a gap that had to be built up with Devcon type epoxy to get a bedding to the receiver.
The only support was the screws when installed as intended, the screws, stock adapter or tang on the receiver would probably break under use without some kind of support or bedding.

The AK MOE with the wedge addresses this and made a solid mount to the receiver in my case.

I have tried collapsible stocks on all my rifles at one time or another and found I like solid stocks better in most cases and gone solid on all but one rifle.

YMMV

So are you guys cutting off the sling loop or, removing it for the Zhukov hand guard?

I am not positive because I don't own one. However, I believe that you have to cut off the front hand guard retainer (which has the front sling loop) and you lose the cleaning rod and bayonet lug.

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Dang, you have an amazing skill at painting.  That is awesome!

Modernized by David Pyzik, on Flickr

ATTENTION: THE PLUM COLOR AK MOE STOCK IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR SHIPPING ON MAGPUL.COM/PRODUCTS/MOE-AK-STOCK.  THAT IS ALL.



OD GREEN next BABY.

Nice!

Is that a trick question? Like asking how many animals Moses' Ark carried?

Perhaps you meant for Zhukov handguard?

Oops. Yes, that's what I meant.

thanks

Are there any plans on stuff for Yugo AK's?

Yes, release date TBA.

I have a Krebs AK with a 14in barrel length and pinned and welded muzzle brake - will the full length hand guard work ?

Thanks

Nice. I'll be keeping the ACE folder on mine (Prefer a left side folder) but a Zhukov handguard is in my future.

 

SLR Rifleworks is coming out with three different aluminum Keymod AK handguards that are looking like the bee's knees.

I looked at those. Kinda wanting something with some insulation to keep my hand cool.

 

Then the Zhukov may not be the handguard you're looking for.  Did a couple of serious mag dumps when the TacCon was working right and it got HOT.

That Draco kicks ass.  Anyone try one on an M92 yet?  I'm contemplating making an attempt.

I prefer fixed stocks too, but will definitely be fixing the one on my MOE. Have not had the problem with stocks on my WASR that you describe, even the Tapco stock I tried fit nice and tight, more solid than the MOE in fact.

As far as M4 adapters, have not had that problem either as I use the Canis adapters and they are by far best-of-breed in that category.

Details on the firearm?

Before


After no more AR stock.

What about fitting a Zhukov handguard on a polish tantal 74 with an Ultamak rail? Anyone done this yet? Pics?