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Originally Posted By tngunner1978:
I watched a video, with a Magpul rep, he said that both handguards had full length heatshields That sounds good... But I really hope that guys definition of a 'heat-shield' is the same as mine 
"Well yeah, the plastic 'heat shield' is plenty resistant to heat. We even put a whole 30 rounds through a magazine when we tested it  "
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Originally Posted By JackTheSkipper:
I am just curious why you would want a bolt on gas block, i dont know anything about them. Maybe they hold up? I know RD uses em and I always wondered what the advantage was using a bolt on over a pinned. According to Jim Fuller they do this to lighten up as much as possible the front-end of the AK. Me personally I just prefer my 'AK-74 style' front-sight/threads, so I would rather live with the slight-increase of weight. Heck I actually prefer the 'A-frame' front-sight on my AR as well 
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I asked that question to the Magpul guys at SHOT (they did not have one that wasn't mounted) how it was mounted and they told me that there is an aluminum chassis that is bolted over the barrel (after you cut the forward handguard retainer off your AK) - then the handguard is slipped over that and held on by two screws the screw into the aluminum chassis near the front of the AK reciever.
It felt REALLY GOOD in the hands. I will be getting one (or three). cheers tire iron |
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Originally Posted By tire_iron: I asked that question to the Magpul guys at SHOT (they did not have one that wasn't mounted) how it was mounted and they told me that there is an aluminum chassis that is bolted over the barrel (after you cut the forward handguard retainer off your AK) - then the handguard is slipped over that and held on by two screws the screw into the aluminum chassis near the front of the AK reciever. It felt REALLY GOOD in the hands. I will be getting one (or three). cheers tire iron Still would like to know if the stock can be switched around to folding to the left instead of the right. |
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Originally Posted By tire_iron:
I asked that question to the Magpul guys at SHOT (they did not have one that wasn't mounted) how it was mounted and they told me that there is an aluminum chassis that is bolted over the barrel (after you cut the forward handguard retainer off your AK) - then the handguard is slipped over that and held on by two screws the screw into the aluminum chassis near the front of the AK reciever. It felt REALLY GOOD in the hands. I will be getting one (or three). cheers tire iron Did you notice if the handguard had a quick detach socket, or a sling loop? |
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Originally Posted By Gone_Shootin:
Sounds like just the thing for us guys that haven't gotten around to doing the front half conversion on our Saigas.
Still would like to know if the stock can be switched around to folding to the left instead of the right. Originally Posted By Gone_Shootin:
Originally Posted By tire_iron:
I asked that question to the Magpul guys at SHOT (they did not have one that wasn't mounted) how it was mounted and they told me that there is an aluminum chassis that is bolted over the barrel (after you cut the forward handguard retainer off your AK) - then the handguard is slipped over that and held on by two screws the screw into the aluminum chassis near the front of the AK reciever. It felt REALLY GOOD in the hands. I will be getting one (or three). cheers tire iron
Still would like to know if the stock can be switched around to folding to the left instead of the right. The stock cannot be switched around to fold on the left. It is a right folder only (at least that is what I was told). cheers tire iron |
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Originally Posted By shootertim:
Did you notice if the handguard had a quick detach socket, or a sling loop? Originally Posted By shootertim:
Originally Posted By tire_iron:
I asked that question to the Magpul guys at SHOT (they did not have one that wasn't mounted) how it was mounted and they told me that there is an aluminum chassis that is bolted over the barrel (after you cut the forward handguard retainer off your AK) - then the handguard is slipped over that and held on by two screws the screw into the aluminum chassis near the front of the AK reciever. It felt REALLY GOOD in the hands. I will be getting one (or three). cheers tire iron Did you notice if the handguard had a quick detach socket, or a sling loop? It does have M-Lok slots for you to add whatever you wish. cheers tire iron |
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Originally Posted By tire_iron: The stock cannot be switched around to fold on the left. It is a right folder only (at least that is what I was told). cheers tire iron Originally Posted By tire_iron: Originally Posted By Gone_Shootin: Originally Posted By tire_iron: I asked that question to the Magpul guys at SHOT (they did not have one that wasn't mounted) how it was mounted and they told me that there is an aluminum chassis that is bolted over the barrel (after you cut the forward handguard retainer off your AK) - then the handguard is slipped over that and held on by two screws the screw into the aluminum chassis near the front of the AK reciever. It felt REALLY GOOD in the hands. I will be getting one (or three). cheers tire iron Still would like to know if the stock can be switched around to folding to the left instead of the right. The stock cannot be switched around to fold on the left. It is a right folder only (at least that is what I was told). cheers tire iron |
| I have a Yugo M70b1 too so I feel your pain lol. If you have instagram @ruiner_ar15 is going to try and put one on his Yugo. He seems to think cutting the hand guard cap should make it work. He has had it in his hands so I trust it could be pretty easy to make it work. |
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Originally Posted By john575:
Would it fit a MaK 90? I would think so. The more ones should as well. The stocks might be an issue if you have a slant cut receiver. I'm personally wanting to use the folder, chassis fore end on a saiga. I wonder if they will be making mags in plum as well. |
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Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:
I guess my questions are will the Zhukov work if there is an accessory lug on the gas block, and does it allow for the use of the cleaning rod? I don't know about the lug on gas block. As I understand, Magpul rep said that in order for Zhukov handguard to attach to your AK, it uses barrel clamp for the front part, and probably for rear part, it slides into trunnion recess. That's for aluminum chassis. Then polymer part is slid on and restrained by using screws at rear of handguard. Sadly, because of barrel clamp for Zhukov, cleaning rod can't be placed underneath barrel. However, with MOE AK & AKM handguards, you can place cleaning rods underneath barrels. Which is why it's a deal breaker for me, I don't know of any good replacement cleaning rod which can be taken apart and put into storage part of Magpul's new AK stock. Will have to wait for other folks to experiment with new stuff when they come out and see what can be done with them. |
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Originally Posted By ChaZ:
I don't know about the lug on gas block. As I understand, Magpul rep said that in order for Zhukov handguard to attach to your AK, it uses barrel clamp for the front part, and probably for rear part, it slides into trunnion recess. That's for aluminum chassis. Then polymer part is slid on and restrained by using screws at rear of handguard. Sadly, because of barrel clamp for Zhukov, cleaning rod can't be placed underneath barrel. However, with MOE AK & AKM handguards, you can place cleaning rods underneath barrels. Which is why it's a deal breaker for me, I don't know of any good replacement cleaning rod which can be taken apart and put into storage part of Magpul's new AK stock. Will have to wait for other folks to experiment with new stuff when they come out and see what can be done with them. Originally Posted By ChaZ:
Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:
I guess my questions are will the Zhukov work if there is an accessory lug on the gas block, and does it allow for the use of the cleaning rod? I don't know about the lug on gas block. As I understand, Magpul rep said that in order for Zhukov handguard to attach to your AK, it uses barrel clamp for the front part, and probably for rear part, it slides into trunnion recess. That's for aluminum chassis. Then polymer part is slid on and restrained by using screws at rear of handguard. Sadly, because of barrel clamp for Zhukov, cleaning rod can't be placed underneath barrel. However, with MOE AK & AKM handguards, you can place cleaning rods underneath barrels. Which is why it's a deal breaker for me, I don't know of any good replacement cleaning rod which can be taken apart and put into storage part of Magpul's new AK stock. Will have to wait for other folks to experiment with new stuff when they come out and see what can be done with them. It may be possible to machine the chasis for the cleaning rod  But will need to see one in hand to know. Any mods would void the warranty for those who care about warrantys.
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Originally Posted By ChaZ:
I don't know about the lug on gas block. As I understand, Magpul rep said that in order for Zhukov handguard to attach to your AK, it uses barrel clamp for the front part, and probably for rear part, it slides into trunnion recess. That's for aluminum chassis. Then polymer part is slid on and restrained by using screws at rear of handguard. Sadly, because of barrel clamp for Zhukov, cleaning rod can't be placed underneath barrel. However, with MOE AK & AKM handguards, you can place cleaning rods underneath barrels. Which is why it's a deal breaker for me, I don't know of any good replacement cleaning rod which can be taken apart and put into storage part of Magpul's new AK stock. Will have to wait for other folks to experiment with new stuff when they come out and see what can be done with them. Originally Posted By ChaZ:
Originally Posted By Citadel-SC:
I guess my questions are will the Zhukov work if there is an accessory lug on the gas block, and does it allow for the use of the cleaning rod? I don't know about the lug on gas block. As I understand, Magpul rep said that in order for Zhukov handguard to attach to your AK, it uses barrel clamp for the front part, and probably for rear part, it slides into trunnion recess. That's for aluminum chassis. Then polymer part is slid on and restrained by using screws at rear of handguard. Sadly, because of barrel clamp for Zhukov, cleaning rod can't be placed underneath barrel. However, with MOE AK & AKM handguards, you can place cleaning rods underneath barrels. Which is why it's a deal breaker for me, I don't know of any good replacement cleaning rod which can be taken apart and put into storage part of Magpul's new AK stock. Will have to wait for other folks to experiment with new stuff when they come out and see what can be done with them. Thanks for the answer. 
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Originally Posted By avatarhammer:
It may be possible to machine the chasis for the cleaning rod But will need to see one in hand to know. Any mods would void the warranty for those who care about warrantys.With magpul, anything's possible. With aluminum chassis, it's easier to modify, hopefully. Heck, some forum members, before the advent of magpul AK furniture, were able to modify some Magpul's AR furnitures on AKs. Heck, saw some remington 870 foregrips fashioned as AK handguards. With dremel and J&B weld, anything's possible. For now, without any parts on hand or schematic drawings of parts, we can only speculate or dream
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Originally Posted By Triggerbender:
Have not seen any of the forends in pics with a cleaning rod installed. Just to be clear can the cleaning rod be installed in Magpul MOE AKM Handguard AK-47, AK-74 Polymer? Thanks. Yes, only both MOE AK & AKM does accept cleaning rods. Zhukov handguard is the only one that can't have cleaning rod through the bottom part due to barrel clamp. |
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Originally Posted By ChaZ:
Magpul website says late April for when shipping out to distributors. Originally Posted By ChaZ:
Originally Posted By InfamousAK:
Are the new Magpul AK Accessories finally shipping? Very Interested in the Zhukov-S stock, seen some places starting to put them up on their sites for sale? Magpul website says late April for when shipping out to distributors. Wasn't it March at first? 
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Originally Posted By nightshade1:
Wasn't it March at first? Originally Posted By nightshade1:
Originally Posted By ChaZ:
Originally Posted By InfamousAK:
Are the new Magpul AK Accessories finally shipping? Very Interested in the Zhukov-S stock, seen some places starting to put them up on their sites for sale? Magpul website says late April for when shipping out to distributors. Wasn't it March at first? Well, there was a situation at Wyoming factory, after they were done with all color runs except plum ones. When they started on plum, majority of workers went on strike because there's no way in hell they would want to supply plum colored furnitures to their own communistic government. The design engineers had to explain to them that they're not for M16s but for AKs so the strike is now over and back to producing plum stuff. That's why they moved the distribution date from March to April. Heck, actually, I was just jesting I don't know why the heck they changed from March to April
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Originally Posted By nyati13:
I've got a brand new M10-762 just waiting for a zhukov set in plum, but I didn't see the MOE+ AK grip offered in plum on MAGPUL's website. Do they intend to release the grips in plum as well, or only the hand guards and stocks? I'll answer my own question, the Magpul site now shows the AK MOE grip as available in plum (once they release, whenever that is). |
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Well just when I had almost convinced myself to buy the MOE AK stock when it comes out (love the storage compartment on top, that's a biggie), I finally paid enough attention to notice there is no sling loop or QD slot at the front of the stock close to the receiver. I can't believe Magpul of all people would leave out the possibility of the prime single-point sling mount point. There's only one of my AK's that I run a single point on, but it's my primary, and has to be just right.
-1 guys. 
Just an observation: I think it's absolutely f'ing hilarious, that everybody dogs on Saiga and Vepr long OEM lower handguards for so long and wants to swap them out first thing. And now there's dozens of posts on multiple forums of guys gushing over the Zhukov handguard and declaring their intent to purchase immediately.
Long handguards rock, I like that the MOE handguard is even a tad longer than stock AK length. |
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Originally Posted By Dragynn:
Well just when I had almost convinced myself to buy the MOE AK stock when it comes out (love the storage compartment on top, that's a biggie), I finally paid enough attention to notice there is no sling loop or QD slot at the front of the stock close to the receiver. I can't believe Magpul of all people would leave out the possibility of the prime single-point sling mount point. There's only one of my AK's that I run a single point on, but it's my primary, and has to be just right. -1 guys. I have thought of drilling a hole and install a flush QD mount from two different companies: http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/qd-micro-mount/ or http://www.shopnoveske.com/collections/parts/products/flush-qd-sling-mount Also, there's always using alternative sling mount plate that goes between your receiver and grip: http://www.echo93.com/#!adaptors/c1bhd Yeah, I agree that it's a big fail for Magpul for not installing QD mounts near the receiver. I'm still going to buy their AK stock regardless. |
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Originally Posted By ChaZ:
I have thought of drilling a hole and install a flush QD mount from two different companies: http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/qd-micro-mount/ or http://www.shopnoveske.com/collections/parts/products/flush-qd-sling-mount Also, there's always using alternative sling mount plate that goes between your receiver and grip: http://www.echo93.com/#!adaptors/c1bhd Yeah, I agree that it's a big fail for Magpul for not installing QD mounts near the receiver. I'm still going to buy their AK stock regardless. Originally Posted By ChaZ:
Originally Posted By Dragynn:
Well just when I had almost convinced myself to buy the MOE AK stock when it comes out (love the storage compartment on top, that's a biggie), I finally paid enough attention to notice there is no sling loop or QD slot at the front of the stock close to the receiver. I can't believe Magpul of all people would leave out the possibility of the prime single-point sling mount point. There's only one of my AK's that I run a single point on, but it's my primary, and has to be just right. -1 guys. I have thought of drilling a hole and install a flush QD mount from two different companies: http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/qd-micro-mount/ or http://www.shopnoveske.com/collections/parts/products/flush-qd-sling-mount Also, there's always using alternative sling mount plate that goes between your receiver and grip: http://www.echo93.com/#!adaptors/c1bhd Yeah, I agree that it's a big fail for Magpul for not installing QD mounts near the receiver. I'm still going to buy their AK stock regardless. Those are some potential solutions, but I can't see paying another 25 bucks on top of the 60 bucks for the stock itself. I guess i'll keep my current set-up. Just doesn't seem like it would have been that hard, a simple sling loop screwed into the side (and that may be another potential solution for those dead-set on buying), even a small inlet molded into the stock itself. For a company that many consider to have been at the forefront of tactical innovation, this stock is shockingly devoid of any tactical features. |
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Originally Posted By Dragynn:
Well just when I had almost convinced myself to buy the MOE AK stock when it comes out (love the storage compartment on top, that's a biggie), I finally paid enough attention to notice there is no sling loop or QD slot at the front of the stock close to the receiver. I can't believe Magpul of all people would leave out the possibility of the prime single-point sling mount point. There's only one of my AK's that I run a single point on, but it's my primary, and has to be just right. -1 guys.
Just an observation: I think it's absolutely f'ing hilarious, that everybody dogs on Saiga and Vepr long OEM lower handguards for so long and wants to swap them out first thing. And now there's dozens of posts on multiple forums of guys gushing over the Zhukov handguard and declaring their intent to purchase immediately.
Long handguards rock, I like that the MOE handguard is even a tad longer than stock AK length. Yeah that was something I noticed when the stock was first debuted. The folding stock has a receiver side sling point and it mounts the same as the fixed stock, so it's not like it couldn't have been done. Hopefully they'll release a gen 2 fixed stock with the extra sling points. |
| Various magpul ak parts are now shown in different colors. Also some parts have different distribution dates; either late April or mid-April. I'm torn between OD green and plum. Will wait and see how plum looks in other websites (distributors or reviewers) cuz I think the photographs of plum parts on magpul site doesn't do justice... |
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I bought an AK just to MagPul it up!
Might even have the Magpul logo engraved into the receiver.
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Originally Posted By swingset:
Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
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Call me a pessimist, but I don't see what all the excitement is about... I've owned a few Magpul products, they were good. But nothing I would camp out in a line to wait for the market-release of...
On top of this, the AK 'accessories' market, really is pretty decent... Without Magpul fanboy's jumping onto this latest wagon. Hey, don't hate me. Just calling it as I see it... "I just bought an AK the second I heard Magpul was going to make 'x/y/z' to deck it out with Magpul stuff!" Then on top of that, I see them making a few little 'mistakes' (or at the very-least they are really trying to bring some of the cheapest stuff to market). Between Tapco and UTG 'AK accessories' I've seen out there, Magpul seems to be right there with them. Again, I feel a disturbance in the force. I am sincerely sorry, I hate to be the bringer of bad news. I just feel like Magpul is really, just barely dipping their feet into the water here... As in these 'first' types of constomers, are the guinea pigs for them to develop better stuff later on... So far the masses that are on the: 'I will buy anything Magpul sells' boat. Don't seem to know/understand what is already out in the AK market. I tend to look at companies such as Zenit, Krebs, Rifle Dynamics, and UltiMAK is being far more innovative in the AK world (along with others). Right now, as I see it, Magpul is not impressing me. Maybe this will change in time, but right now Magpul = UTG, Tapco, ProMag.... |
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KillerBD,
I understand the sentiment you express, but I have a differing opinion of Magpul latest offering for the AK series of rifles. And I am not a "fan boy". I have some of their stuff, but I run other companies offerings too. (B5, VLTOR, Lancer, etc.) This is what Magpul is bringing to the table that no one else is at this point: A quality folder that does not require the rear end to be modified at all. That actually takes into account the comb height the AK needs, for a price that is very very reasonable, especially when compared to the other offerings by the companies you mention. A forend (the Zhukov) that goes out past the gas block, and doesn't weigh a ton, that is "minimalist" (MLok so you can add what you want where you want, without a lot of rail where you don't want any) and again is at a very good price point compared to the competition. Every other offering by the companies you mention have missed the boat to "minimalist" or are extremely expensive, or have issues (thinking Troy here with the heat expansion issues). I am looking forward to adding a Zhukov forend to my personal AK. I compared it to every other offering I could find at SHOT 2015, and for my needs, it is head and shoulders above the competition. cheers tire iron |
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Originally Posted By KillerBD:
Call me a pessimist, but I don't see what all the excitement is about... I've owned a few Magpul products, they were good. But nothing I would camp out in a line to wait for the market-release of... On top of this, the AK 'accessories' market, really is pretty decent... Without Magpul fanboy's jumping onto this latest wagon. Hey, don't hate me. Just calling it as I see it... "I just bought an AK the second I heard Magpul was going to make 'x/y/z' to deck it out with Magpul stuff!" Then on top of that, I see them making a few little 'mistakes' (or at the very-least they are really trying to bring some of the cheapest stuff to market). Between Tapco and UTG 'AK accessories' I've seen out there, Magpul seems to be right there with them. Again, I feel a disturbance in the force. I am sincerely sorry, I hate to be the bringer of bad news. I just feel like Magpul is really, just barely dipping their feet into the water here... As in these 'first' types of constomers, are the guinea pigs for them to develop better stuff later on... So far the masses that are on the: 'I will buy anything Magpul sells' boat. Don't seem to know/understand what is already out in the AK market. I tend to look at companies such as Zenit, Krebs, Rifle Dynamics, and UltiMAK is being far more innovative in the AK world (along with others). Right now, as I see it, Magpul is not impressing me. Maybe this will change in time, but right now Magpul = UTG, Tapco, ProMag.... My previous post was mostly in jest, I have had AKs before. But sold them due to various reasons involving making the gun comfortable for me and my shooting style.
As far as the other Mfgs you mentioned. 1)Zenit, everything is heavy and bulky and not very available. 2)Krebs, great stuff, but some of their offerings I just don't need or find appealing. And their complete guns are expensive for an AK pattern gun. 3)Ultimak, their railed gas tube is really the only one to own. IMHO But, I don't like having my RDS on the gas tube. Tried it, didn't like it. 4)Rifle Dynamics, again, possibly the best US AK builder there is. But, it comes with a cost, a steep one, that for some is hard to swallow for an AK pattern gun. 5)UTG, I honestly never bought any of their kit due to poor styling, marketing and the crappy materials they make their kit with. 6)Tapco, the only good thing they make is the G2 trigger, which they didn't design. The rest of their kit, see my remarks about UTG. 7)Promag, I have honestly never seen a Promag magazine work correctly in many platforms and seen several break under light use. 8)MagPul, I still have Gen1 AR Pmags running strong under pretty hard use from classes, comps and drills. I like their styling, simple and rugged. While I hate the term "fanboy", I suppose that's what I am. But, I guess that is what happens when every product that I have bought from them has performed to my liking at a price point I am willing to spend, and lastly, it doesn't look to bad either. |
Originally Posted By swingset:
Just head on down to your local "Shit Normal People Shouldn't Fuck Around With Supermart". Isle 3, next to the menstruating porcupine.
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Originally Posted By plouffedaddy:
They've already shipped parts to OEM suppliers FWIW. I personally think it doesn't worth that much because the list of OEM on Magpul's website are: WESSON STURM RUGER SIG SAUER COLT MOSSBERG REMINGTON BUSHMASTER DPMS They don't sell AKs so I think it's safe to say that they probably won't sell Magpul's AK furnitures. Perhaps you meant wholesalers? |
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Originally Posted By ChaZ:
I personally think it doesn't worth that much because the list of OEM on Magpul's website are: WESSON STURM RUGER SIG SAUER COLT MOSSBERG REMINGTON BUSHMASTER DPMS They don't sell AKs so I think it's safe to say that they probably won't sell Magpul's AK furnitures. Perhaps you meant wholesalers? Originally Posted By ChaZ:
Originally Posted By plouffedaddy:
They've already shipped parts to OEM suppliers FWIW. I personally think it doesn't worth that much because the list of OEM on Magpul's website are: WESSON STURM RUGER SIG SAUER COLT MOSSBERG REMINGTON BUSHMASTER DPMS They don't sell AKs so I think it's safe to say that they probably won't sell Magpul's AK furnitures. Perhaps you meant wholesalers? Yeah I was wondering about that too, what AK manufacturer(s) are planning on running Magpul as OEM equipment??? |
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