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Posted: 4/28/2005 10:46:35 AM EDT
| I have a Galil Sporter made by IMI Israel. It is chambered for .223. It has an 18" barrel plus flash hider and wood foregrip with traditional straight wooden stock held on with a roll pin. It has an attached bipod. The piece has a very low s/n. The rcvr has an indentation for a scope mount on the left side. . One puzzle is that the left side aux. safety assembly is not there (there is a slot) but the rcvr shows no wear markings or indentations as for that safety lever ever being there. Did some early models come in without the aux. safety? I wonder if it would be worth the expense to buy and install one? I haven't seen the parts listed anywhere except in the complete rebuild kits which are lots of bucks and include stuff I don't need. Thanks for the help. |
It would, but your gun isn't a pre-ban. Pre-ban Galils were imported by Magnum Research and Action Arms. Post-ban "sporter" models were imported by Springfield Armory and maybe Uzi America. You have a parts gun built on a stripped receiver. 
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| I found a old AK thumbhole that I can make fit. Now I need some (5?) American parts. Gas rod; AZEX. Pistol grip; ACE ltd., Now I'm stuck, where do I find an American trigger group and stock? Or bolt and carrier, buffer assembly etc? I see lots of stuff listed but it's origin is not mentioned. |
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You can get a trigger group that will fit from RSA. Make sure you specify that it's for a Galil. www.redstararms.com/ Oh, and don't forget to post pics!  BTW, if you put enough US parts in, you don't need the AK thumbhole. You'll need 5 US parts altogether. I'm not sure what the threads on the barrel are, but an M16 flash suppressor might work. That would be an easy $5 US part. |
| OK, when I can dump the Galil thumbhole, where do I find a folder? I've been down a bunch of busted links but can't find the right one yet. Unless I want to the buy the Keystone rebuild kit for $550.00.... Ace Ltd. doesn't show a Galil folder adapter but I think I'll call them anyway. Unless somebody has a better idea. Thanks. |
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Yep, Botach has the folders and I've actually had good results getting Galil stuff from them. The GFCC markings are from Old Sac Armory. I bought a stripped receiver directly from them about 2-3 years ago, and it lacked selector marking on both sides. Definitely sounds like a parts gun built up within the past few years. There's a couple of people selling parts over on sturmgewehr.com www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/parts.cgi?read=136054 www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/parts.cgi?read=136179 |
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ARS has the US made Galil style brakes and flash suppressors. Is the lettering on the recevier yellow, small, and painted on the receiver? If so it was a factory barreled receiver. If the Galil Sporter is in big letters and milled into the receiver, then it was a stripped receiver. Botach also just advertised new, metal 35 rd mags for $20. |
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The lettering is large and milled in which means it was a stripped rcvr. Since so many parts available are after mkt. and mandated in some cases to be made in America I'm guessing more of the value of the post ban Galil is in it's inherent quality than it's being a collecter. Since my gun was built from a stripped rcvr I wonder if the guy (who I can't contact) put in any American parts. I bought some American parts for a Daewoo DR200 from Ace ltd. and they were not stamped as to origin. I guess you keep the packing material. Incidently, how does the Galil flash surpresser come off? It's got a slot and ring. The ring peels out, what then? Does it slide off or are there threads? Right or left hand? Last question: If I don't replace the missing left side safety assembly will the gun lose value? Or am I right in that the gun's value is in it's quality and since the aux. safety is redundant the fact that it's not there be of little significance. Thanks. |
| Thanks for the info. I think I'll skip putting the aux. safety back in. What's the law on a stripped rcvr as to a flash hider? Do I need to go to a muzzle brake? I intend to replace at least 5 parts with American made. An American made hider would be a cheap part to use as someone on this site suggested. Thanks again. |
| Ordered a bunch of parts from botach back in march. folding stock, gas tube, bolt, and carrier. They charged my card and sent a bogus tracking # that never went active. Tried to call and never heard a reply. One month later, finally had to challenge card charge. They want your money even if they don't have it in stock. |
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I had 2 Galils built by IGF on this same receiver. Both are great guns. Here is what I did for U.S. parts: 1. DPMS Panther Flash Hider (U.S. Made) 2. Ace Galil Pistol Grip (U.S. Made) 3. Red Star Arms Hammer/Trigger/Sear set on one and a Gordon U.S. Set on the other (TAPCO) This gives you the 5 U.S. parts to be legal and still look original. http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/p1ea19a5a348248fdcd3ef368162ce74c/fc09f3d6.jpg http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid148/p00121657608895e06d01b9f4d6c58982/f61c378e.jpg |
| American made parts list sounds like a winner. One question. Does the dpms AR flash hider have the same threads as the Galil? I've got some AR flash hiders, one is an old 'wire twister' I think would look good on the Sporter. Don't suppose it's stamped USA anywhere though. Botach has some deals on mags but would be a little scared to give them a card number. Anybody else had the problem msergent had? Soon as I get time I'll start phoning and ordering parts. Couple of my buds from the last weekend gunshow were interested in the Galil. I guess there are not too many around for sale. Kinda fun having something a little different. Thanks. |
Same thing happened to me with a "new bolt assembly" order. It took a lot of phone calls and emails to get a part that looked less than new, when actually delivered about a month after the order was placed. -JZ |
| As of this morning 5/4/05 Ace ltd. is out of American made pistol grips for the Galil and don't know when they will be available again as their injection forms are with the guy who actually makes the grips and he is "not real dependable". To build my Galil I will go with a AZEX gas rod, RSA trigger group and Gunthings.com muzzle brake. I will buy a 13x1 metric tap and fit an American AR flash surpresser as a spare. I haven't seen anything about American made Galil mags so suppose they're not available... I appreciate all the help. Thanks. |
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DSA has the US Galil pistol grips listed on their site. www.dsarms.com If you really want to use US mags, you could get an AR magazine adapter for your Galil. Then you would only need 2 US parts. |
| I found the pistol grip listed at disarms but couldn't Google the mag adapter. Who sells them and how do they work? Do you need to fasten it to the mag well like the 9mm AR blocks? a USA made mag would make up three parts if I read you right. Mag body, follower and floor plate. With the USA made flash hider and pistol grip I'd have 5 pts and could skip the trigger group. More is probably better so I think I'll change the trigger group anyway. In another vein, now that there are American made AK's and AR's with folding and collapsable stocks available, and at a lot less money, I notice the people who paid big bucks for the preban stuff last year and before are no longer too interested. Marketing I guess, make it rare, hard to find and expensive and they will come. Thanks again for the help. |
There's no place I know of that sells them, but I see them on Gunbroker and Sturm from time to time. The mag adapter locks in like a regular Galil mag. It has a button release like an AR. There is a little bar to block the regular mag release so you don't accidentally drop the adapter. Yes, the AR mag will count for 3 US parts. |
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www.ak47.net/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=47&t=200509 I don't know the manufacturer, but at $76, it's worth checking into. |
I'm pretty sure that "UA" is Uzi America. |
| Well the Galil Sporter is back together with American parts. I got a gas rod from AZEX, a trigger group from Power Custom/Red Star Arms, a plastic pistol grip from Disarms and a muzzle brake from Gunthings. The gas rod had to have a hole bored thru it for the roll pin which was not too tough, the trigger group was a little tougher as I had to do some Dremel work on both the trigger block where it form-fits into the rcvr floor and on the safety tang so that it could ride up on the disconnecter block ramp. All went well with only a few cuss words and 'for once' no lost springs. Everything functions correctly now. One small problem is the old flash hider. It has no wrench flats cut into it and is too tight to lever off with a screwdriver stuck thru the flash holes. I hate to heat it and maybe lose blue off the barrel, (or worse accuracy.)The only other option I see is a pipe wrench or vice grips which puts an end to the hider. I don't need to replace it to have 5 American parts but would feel better with 6. as some have suggested are needed. ..I am wondering about a few things; One, the pins that hold the trigger and hammer assemblies. Are there supposed to be some tension grommets on the fat ends of the pins? Two, why the spring clip on the flash hider? It doesn't do anything that I can see. There is no 'thru' slot in the groove to let the clip hold the hider on. Three, what do they put in the water in New Jersey? I read this morning that a state rep. wants a law to take grandma's house (or anybodies)because grampa's(or who ever's) shotgun isn't registered. Nuts! Thanks for the help. |
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