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Posted: 7/7/2009 2:55:52 PM EDT
I am a fan of history, so I wanted to dig into the operational use of the M70.

enjoy






















































Link Posted: 7/7/2009 3:20:28 PM EDT
[#1]
if you want to see a lot of yugo guns in action check out the movie "no man's land"
Link Posted: 7/7/2009 3:25:45 PM EDT
[#2]
Or you could have read Soldier of Fortune magazine throughout the 90s.

Cool pics.
Link Posted: 7/7/2009 3:32:12 PM EDT
[#3]
I'll play:






 
Link Posted: 7/7/2009 4:14:07 PM EDT
[#4]
Pretty cool pics. Thanks for posting.


Link Posted: 7/7/2009 4:44:58 PM EDT
[#5]
I have a ton of these pics saved on my computer.  Here's a few more and then I'm done:





My personal favorite









 
Link Posted: 7/8/2009 6:30:06 AM EDT
[#6]
Great photos, Its really cool to see these guns in their natural habitat.
Link Posted: 7/8/2009 2:23:22 PM EDT
[#7]
lol! All I heard in my mind was Steve Irwin...."and over hear we have the elusive Yugoslavian AK. It has a beautiful wood finish, but a venomous bite! DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!"


Quoted:


Great photos, Its really cool to see these guns in their natural habitat.






 
Link Posted: 7/8/2009 2:39:14 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/8/2009 9:58:17 PM EDT
[#9]
Let's make this a sticky and keep the photo's coming.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 4:39:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/19/2009 7:02:45 PM EDT
[#11]
Got some more:



































Link Posted: 7/19/2009 7:23:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/19/2009 10:29:08 PM EDT
[#13]
extreme yugo action, pushing paper

Link Posted: 7/20/2009 11:11:50 AM EDT
[#14]
Looks like a copy of a NATO issue gas mask. I have an older M9 gas mask which looks the same.

Perhaps the Serbian  M-1

Link Posted: 7/20/2009 11:46:36 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/20/2009 3:08:22 PM EDT
[#16]
Friggin awesome.



Keep em' coming.
Link Posted: 7/20/2009 3:50:03 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/20/2009 5:58:52 PM EDT
[#18]
Cleaning time











































































Ever wonder if your gun / parts are in these pics?
Link Posted: 7/21/2009 4:41:31 AM EDT
[#19]
love the yugo krink, and is that a 308 in the APC that girl is holding? Looks like a big box mag, but bigger than 308, maybe 8mm?
Link Posted: 7/21/2009 9:07:20 AM EDT
[#20]
I'm betting it is a brass catcher.

I could be wrong, way wrong.
Link Posted: 7/21/2009 9:10:25 AM EDT
[#21]
it's possible, with no mag. Pic too small for me to see for sure.
Link Posted: 7/21/2009 10:39:23 AM EDT
[#22]
There used to be a thread in which people posted pictures of their yugos (I'm not talking about the thread stickied at the top of the forum).

I can't seem to find it anymore. I think it's old. Does anyone have a link?
Link Posted: 7/25/2009 5:20:20 AM EDT
[#23]
Can we sticky this?
Link Posted: 7/25/2009 6:29:29 AM EDT
[#24]
From the pics, it looks like they use more underfolders than fixed stock rifles. That might explain why we see far more underfolders here than fixed stock Yugos.
Link Posted: 7/26/2009 9:00:00 PM EDT
[#25]
Got family from the old Yugoslav Republic and all of them say they has underfolders when they were in the military.
Link Posted: 7/27/2009 12:08:31 PM EDT
[#26]
We need more pictures.....

I will do some more research while I'm at the office I guess..... I wish my quota was based on how many Yugo Pic's I can find.
Link Posted: 8/6/2009 4:21:55 PM EDT
[#29]
Pic's or it didn't happen

J/k

You should let your friend see the pic, I bet he'd get a kick out of it, and we'd love the back story!
Link Posted: 8/6/2009 5:24:32 PM EDT
[#30]
Does this count, my first time shooting the yugo I built today

Link Posted: 8/7/2009 12:14:02 AM EDT
[#31]
I can tell you a story .
That photo  is taken in  Central Bosnia at place known as The Sandpit . Year is 1993 , according to the long sleeved blouse it is April or May or October . Summer of 1993 was hot so from June trough September everybody was wearing T-shirts .

I was  not too  far . Just 300 yards across , on the opposite side

It is a story of bunch afraid eighteen and nineteen years old boys pitted against former friends and classmates .

Year latter it stopped and we were friends again , in less than two years we went to fight common enemy .

Today nothing and nobody could make him or me to fight against each other  .
We were so called dust eaters him and me , we made no decisions just followed orders and tried to keep boys from other side out of ours front yards .

That is my story and story of my  generation .
Link Posted: 8/7/2009 10:49:56 AM EDT
[#32]
I have tried to read up on the conflicts of the region through its various phases. I must admit it gets quite confusing.

If you don't mind my asking, I have a couple of questions.

- When it comes to sides, who's on what side? Also the common enemy that the two of you fought who are they?

- The M70, what are your thoughts on the rifle?, as no doubt, you fired on the opposing side(s).

I tried to understand the reasons / who fought / results, but it seems that each year produced a new enemy or friend. It seems that one year fighting was over land / religion / nationalistic pride, then it changed the next. Very confusing times, glad you are here to tell your story!

Thanks!


EDIT: I have several pics of your friend at my home computer, as I have many from the "sandpit" I'll post em when I get home on sunday"
Link Posted: 8/7/2009 12:01:30 PM EDT
[#33]
Remote access is the best, here they are.





Link Posted: 8/11/2009 2:27:31 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted:
Does this count, my first time shooting the yugo I built today

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o56/mikegigabyte/AK%2047/Ak%2047/P8050639.jpg


NICE!

Did you use a normal AK rear stock for that build?
Link Posted: 8/11/2009 4:14:01 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Does this count, my first time shooting the yugo I built today

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o56/mikegigabyte/AK%2047/Ak%2047/P8050639.jpg


NICE!

Did you use a normal AK rear stock for that build?


Yeah thats what the kit came with, also had no rear trunnion so I figured why not, since I got to buy a trunnion anyways, saved some money that way.
Link Posted: 8/12/2009 2:24:43 PM EDT
[#36]



Quoted:



Quoted:


Quoted:

Does this count, my first time shooting the yugo I built today




http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o56/mikegigabyte/AK%2047/Ak%2047/P8050639.jpg




NICE!



Did you use a normal AK rear stock for that build?




Yeah thats what the kit came with, also had no rear trunnion so I figured why not, since I got to buy a trunnion anyways, saved some money that way.


Gives you stock options that a standard Yugo rear trunnion wouldn't...





 
Link Posted: 8/13/2009 12:40:45 AM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
I have tried to read up on the conflicts of the region through its various phases. I must admit it gets quite confusing.

If you don't mind my asking, I have a couple of questions.

- When it comes to sides, who's on what side? Also the common enemy that the two of you fought who are they?
- The M70, what are your thoughts on the rifle?, as no doubt, you fired on the opposing side(s).

I tried to understand the reasons / who fought / results, but it seems that each year produced a new enemy or friend. It seems that one year fighting was over land / religion / nationalistic pride, then it changed the next. Very confusing times, glad you are here to tell your story!

Thanks!


EDIT: I have several pics of your friend at my home computer, as I have many from the "sandpit" I'll post em when I get home on sunday"


My friend HVO (Croatian Council of Defense). I was with Army of Bosnia and Herzegovina .

Common “enemy “VRS (Army of Republic of Serbs) .

In mine experience Yugo, Russian, Chinese, Bulgarian, Polish, Hungarian are top notch Aks.

Least desirable are Romanian.  We had mostly Yugo and they took a lot of use and abuse. I have seen only one broken and it was cut in half by 82 mm mortar round.

I got chance to fire quite a few rounds from East German and they are really sweet but they came at the end of the war so most of them sitting in some warehouse . In my opinion East German is most precise AK that I fired.

Long story short in 1992 it was HVO and BiH Army against VRS.

In 1993 was everybody against everybody, all sides fought against two enemies.
Than toward the end of 1993 in Western Bosnia came to split within BiH Army on BiH Army (5th Corp) and Independent Area of Western Bosnia.

In 1994 Washington Peace Agreement was signed and BiH Army and HVO ceased hostility. In mean time 5th Corp defeated IAWB .

In 1995  BiH Army , HVO and HV ( Croatian Army ) launched offensive on VRS in Bosnia and Croatia effectively defeating VRS ( Serb Army ) ,liberating all Croatia and some 25% of Bosnia .

On the peak of offensive leaders of Bosnians, Serbs and Croats were summoned in Dayton Ohio and Dayton Peace Agreement was made and signed so Serbs today control 49% of the Bosnian territory and Bosnians and Croats other 51% . Nobody won war in Bosnia but everybody losted ..

Sorry for the long post


Link Posted: 8/13/2009 6:24:41 AM EDT
[#38]
Amazing story! Thank you for sharing.

Link Posted: 8/13/2009 7:41:57 AM EDT
[#39]
More pics!



















PARTS KITS!































Link Posted: 8/15/2009 1:46:58 AM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
More pics!

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/FIGHTINGINTHESTREETSOFSARAJEVO.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/MuslimBosniansoldiersleanagainstawa.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/Theseteen-agerboysareBosnianvolunte.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/USAandBosniansoldiersin1996.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/esadova2.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/fightback1tj.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/nla12ww.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/sarajevostreets.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/uck175zm-1.jpg

PARTS KITS!
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/ut00818913tv-1.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/valentinesday922fb-1.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/0000277308-034.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/1222546062_resized.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/280631015vfmrydphek0.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/70sl_1.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/ACF0YxfDO.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/Amilitantstandsguardintheemptystree.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/BosniakfighterinMostar.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/BosnianSoldiershootingbackatSerbChe.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/DecomissionedWeapons001.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/advancingthowardsdubica5pd.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/cgp.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/cro9sk.jpg    
Guy on the left with cross around the neck is my friend commanding officer Tihomir Blaskic and I think that girl with AK  next to him went with me in high school .

http://www.un.org/icty/glance/blaskic.htm

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/dokrivaje.jpg




Link Posted: 8/15/2009 1:47:34 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
More pics!

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/FIGHTINGINTHESTREETSOFSARAJEVO.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/MuslimBosniansoldiersleanagainstawa.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/Theseteen-agerboysareBosnianvolunte.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/USAandBosniansoldiersin1996.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/esadova2.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/fightback1tj.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/nla12ww.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/sarajevostreets.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/uck175zm-1.jpg

PARTS KITS!
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/ut00818913tv-1.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/valentinesday922fb-1.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/0000277308-034.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/1222546062_resized.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/280631015vfmrydphek0.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/70sl_1.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/ACF0YxfDO.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/Amilitantstandsguardintheemptystree.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/BosniakfighterinMostar.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/BosnianSoldiershootingbackatSerbChe.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/DecomissionedWeapons001.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/advancingthowardsdubica5pd.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/cgp.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/cro9sk.jpg    
Guy on the left with cross around the neck is my friend's commanding officer Tihomir Blaskic and I think that girl with AK  next to him went with me in high school .

http://www.un.org/icty/glance/blaskic.htm

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/dokrivaje.jpg




Link Posted: 8/16/2009 8:34:40 PM EDT
[#42]
Damn, akbird do you have any pics of you over there? (Though by the rate these pics are going I'm sure you will show up in one)

Also a question: you mentioned the BiH army and the 5th Corps, internal fighting, and who is the IAWB that 5th Corps defeated?  That civil war is sooooo damn confusing.
Link Posted: 8/17/2009 10:15:07 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
Damn, akbird do you have any pics of you over there? (Though by the rate these pics are going I'm sure you will show up in one). Maybe , I did my best to stay away from cameras  

Also a question: you mentioned the BiH army and the 5th Corps, internal fighting, and who is the IAWB that 5th Corps defeated?  That civil war is sooooo damn confusing.


I know it is very confusing , there is few links to you about IAWB :


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Province_of_Western_Bosnia


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fikret_Abdic


And then about 5th Corps:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5th_Corps_of_the_Army_of_the_Republic_of_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina

Link Posted: 8/21/2009 10:51:03 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Damn, akbird do you have any pics of you over there? (Though by the rate these pics are going I'm sure you will show up in one). Maybe , I did my best to stay away from cameras  

Also a question: you mentioned the BiH army and the 5th Corps, internal fighting, and who is the IAWB that 5th Corps defeated?  That civil war is sooooo damn confusing.


I know it is very confusing , there is few links to you about IAWB :


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Province_of_Western_Bosnia


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fikret_Abdic


And then about 5th Corps:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5th_Corps_of_the_Army_of_the_Republic_of_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina




Thanks for sharing your experiences...I'm sure I speak for everyone that we'd love to hear as much as your willing to share.
Link Posted: 8/21/2009 10:55:54 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Damn, akbird do you have any pics of you over there? (Though by the rate these pics are going I'm sure you will show up in one). Maybe , I did my best to stay away from cameras  

Also a question: you mentioned the BiH army and the 5th Corps, internal fighting, and who is the IAWB that 5th Corps defeated?  That civil war is sooooo damn confusing.


I know it is very confusing , there is few links to you about IAWB :


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_Province_of_Western_Bosnia


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fikret_Abdic


And then about 5th Corps:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5th_Corps_of_the_Army_of_the_Republic_of_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina




Thanks for sharing your experiences...I'm sure I speak for everyone that we'd love to hear as much as your willing to share.


I know I'd like to learn more.  The entire war in that region just confuses me
Link Posted: 8/21/2009 11:39:57 AM EDT
[#46]
+ 1 on learning more.

At this point the Historical aspects of the Yugoslavian conflicts are more interesting than the "Yugo's in Action" title.

Should I change the title to something along the lines of "A Pictoral History of the Zastava M70 and It's Role in Modern Balkan History"

This should be sticked, as it was the history and photos that made me decide on the M70 platform, I'm sure it will lure others in as well.
Link Posted: 8/22/2009 4:57:01 PM EDT
[#47]
Tag for more Yugo goodness.
Link Posted: 8/22/2009 5:41:46 PM EDT
[#48]
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/cro9sk.jpg


Are the people in this picture Croats? The man on the left has what looks like a red and white checkerboard pin and the man to the right of the girl has a checkerboard belt buckle.
Link Posted: 8/22/2009 7:26:54 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/cro9sk.jpg


Are the people in this picture Croats? The man on the left has what looks like a red and white checkerboard pin and the man to the right of the girl has a checkerboard belt buckle.


The man on the left has Rosary beads around his neck, narrows it down to Croat
Link Posted: 8/22/2009 11:23:41 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted:
Quoted:
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/ss67/finslayer83/cro9sk.jpg


Are the people in this picture Croats? The man on the left has what looks like a red and white checkerboard pin and the man to the right of the girl has a checkerboard belt buckle.


The man on the left has Rosary beads around his neck, narrows it down to Croat


His name is Tihomir Blaskic  

http://www.un.org/icty/glance/blaskic.htm
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