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3/12/2005 8:16:58 PM EDT
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3/12/2005 11:49:12 PM EDT
[#1]
I'd say that's a fair price.  You could have done better, but it might take some looking around depending on where you live.
3/13/2005 6:19:56 AM EDT
[#2]
I think ya did great.  Pre 89 so you can have the bayonet; what's not to love?  How did you find out the original date of production?
3/13/2005 7:07:19 AM EDT
[#3]
There is a chart for the age of chicom rifles on this page.www.simonov.net/uberid.htm
3/13/2005 8:11:59 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
There is a chart for the age of chicom rifles on this page.www.simonov.net/uberid.htm


Msokol13, sorry for the slight hi-jack.  

Chinese SKS's will code the year of manufacture in with the serial number.  The number(s) in the million's placeholder of the serial number represent the year of manufacture.  Unfortunately, there is a LOT of inconsistency regarding the numbering convention of Chinese SKS's.  There will be some with letters tacked on to the end, some with only six digit alpha numeric serial numbers, and some with Cyrillic characters thrown in.  If you strip off the trailing letter and if your numbers are still in the millions, the letter was most likely added to the serial number by the importer for control reasons.  If there are Cyrillic letters involved or the serial number is only four digits, you have a Sino Soviet rifle made in 1956-57.

EX1:  S# 2432000B = 2,432,000 = 1958    EX2: S# 18641000 = 18,641,000 = 1974


I can't reprduce the chart, but if I'm reading this right, I think I figured out that my chinese rifle was made in 1957.  I figured it was a made for import in the late 80's.  Wish I knew when it was imported.

It's serial number is 1703XXX C   ......this meaning that (1)=1957, (2)1958, ect...

The "C" does look like it was added later, as the text suggests.

Msokol13, I won't tell you how much I paid for it last summer.....don't want to know......the numbers all match, but the original stock was gone, so I just added a take off.  The numbers are surprisingly close; within one thousand.  The condition is not as good as yours.  The owner at the pawn shop hates SKS rifles and won't sell them, buy them, except from a friend, every-onece-in-a-while.  He just wanted to get rid of it.

Here it is now:


3/13/2005 9:01:19 AM EDT
[#5]
just because it was made in 79 doesn't mean it was imported before 89. i would take off the bayonet until i found out for sure. it is a very nice rifle. it would cost much more in california.
3/13/2005 3:53:05 PM EDT
[#6]
Thanks for the kind words.

In response to the post about taking off the bayonet until I can find out for certain if it was imported before 1989. Do you know how to find out when it was imported?
If there is no way of determining it why would I take it off? It was sold to me like that, so If it is illegal I will let the man who sold it to me take the heat.  Either that or just take it off and be done with it. The bayonet is a spike blade type bayonet and looks to have the same exact finish as the rifle so If it was added on I should be able to tell...at least I would think?
3/13/2005 6:15:09 PM EDT
[#7]
I bought a shooter grade Norinco SKS for $25 a couple weeks ago. I did have to spend an additional $10 on a gas rod though...
3/14/2005 12:20:45 PM EDT
[#8]
I am no help about the date of import, but I do know that there were an awful lot of Norincos imported just like that one. I think you would be fairly safe to assume that yours is in original as imported configuration.
3/14/2005 4:13:45 PM EDT
[#9]
Nice gun,  the only negative thing I can see is the pinned and not threaded barrel.  Doesn't really matter unless you are into collecting SKS's.  They are just as good of shooters as the threaded barrel.
3/14/2005 6:15:14 PM EDT
[#10]

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Nice gun,  the only negative thing I can see is the pinned and not threaded barrel.  Doesn't really matter unless you are into collecting SKS's.  They are just as good of shooters as the threaded barrel.

How can you tell it's pinned from the pics?
3/15/2005 3:32:08 PM EDT
[#11]
Just look at the area under the front sight in front of the receiver.  There is a larger gap between the barrel and the rear sight mount. There are 3 types that I know of.  Long collar, short collar threaded in barrels and then the pinned in barrel.    Russian, Yugo, Romanian etc all have the long collar and the Chinese have a mix of the long collar, short collar and then the pinned in barrels.
3/15/2005 5:33:14 PM EDT
[#12]
Since SKS rifles don't have the evil features of an assault rifle I don't think you have to worry about import or manufacture dates therefore you don't have to worry about taking the bayonet off.  
3/15/2005 6:29:29 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Since SKS rifles don't have the evil features of an assault rifle I don't think you have to worry about import or manufacture dates therefore you don't have to worry about taking the bayonet off.  



Actaully your wrong. Any rifle imported after 1989 has to have at least 10 US parts....unless C&R.
3/16/2005 1:55:38 AM EDT
[#14]
That only applies to assault rifles or rifles determined to be of "non sporting" use such as AKs and FALs and are now banned from importation.  Those type of rifles that are pre 89 cannot be assembled with over 10 imported parts.  Thats why people have to get US parts to convert their thumbhole MAK 90s.  It does not apply to SKS rifles.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=93&t=55169  
3/16/2005 6:18:52 AM EDT
[#15]
Well lets hope that you never buy an Chinese SKS. Check here for legality issues concerning Chinese SKS's imported after 1989.

SKS boards
www.sksboards.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20670


**********Taken from SKSboards.com**********
This question came up in my 01 FFL interview with the BATF.

I was told by BATF that if you can't prove it was imported prior to 1989,
"To take the Bayo off".

I'm in the same boat as Galahad, I've got a norinco import with the lug. I picked it up in a pawn shop in AR several years ago. It had a 20rd detachable mag and no bayo. I wanted to make it original so I put a bayo and original 10rd mag. BTW it's all matching except the mag.

I kick myself daily for not asking if he had the original mag, but it was my first SKS (love at first sight) so I'll eventually forgive myself (NOT).


I just bought a featherlite bayo lug mount bipod for it just to be on the safe side. With my 01 FFL I have to be very careful even with my private collection.

I plan to keep the bayo nicely oiled and ready for when they become C&R.
3/16/2005 6:33:22 PM EDT
[#16]
You are right about the bayo.  After reading your post I started looking and found another good reference.
www.simonov.net/uberlaw.htm  
I have a Chinese SKS in my safe as we speak.  I can tell when it was made but do you know of a reference for an import date?
3/16/2005 7:35:53 PM EDT
[#17]
From my understanding there is no info on when a rifle was imported. I am kicking myself in the ass as I write this because I didnt have him write up on the bill of sale that he sold it to me with the bayonet installed.Sorry I am of no help to you


Good news is that I heard that Chinese rifles(sks's in particular) might be approved as Curio and Relic rifles. If this happens we are in the clear as far as having bayonets and stuff.

I personally am not going to take my bayonet off, that is how it was sold to me and that is one of the reasons I bought it.If I ever find out it was imported post-89 I will take it off and wait.
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