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5/5/2010 10:55:05 PM EDT
been wanting one for a while now, but other firearms seems to be gettin in the way.  now that funds permit i finally picked one up, new to the sks and did some research and found out that maybe my sks could be a sino-soviet 56.  any info from you guys is appreciated to confirm this,  thanks
some pics







5/6/2010 2:54:27 AM EDT
[#1]
That is a Sino. It was made in 1956.  It originally had a blade bayonet at some time.  Is the stock cut for a blade bayonet?
5/6/2010 4:11:32 AM EDT
[#2]
I bought 3 back when they were less than $100 each. They are all good shooters.
5/6/2010 8:34:58 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
That is a Sino. It was made in 1956.  It originally had a blade bayonet at some time.  Is the stock cut for a blade bayonet?


is this the cut for the blade bayonet?

5/7/2010 7:00:16 AM EDT
[#4]
That is the correct cut for a blade bayonet.
Do all of the numbers on the metal parts match?
The stock looks to have been replaced. It is cut for a spike bayonet. The original Sino Soviet SKS rifles had a side mounted sling swivel, and were cut for a blade bayonet.
5/7/2010 7:25:32 AM EDT
[#5]
nice rifle
5/7/2010 6:31:39 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
Quoted:
That is a Sino. It was made in 1956.  It originally had a blade bayonet at some time.  Is the stock cut for a blade bayonet?


is this the cut for the blade bayonet?
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/kadiindo/075-1.jpg


That is the cut for the spike bayonet, the blade bayo cut is a V pattern not the U pattern as pictured. I used to think that ALL Sino's had a blade bayo until I was corrected by more knowledgeable people...   There are other indications if a Chinese SKS is or not a Sino, I just can not remember them....   Check out SKSBoards.com they can tell you for sure.......  


5/8/2010 4:41:15 AM EDT
[#7]
Yes, go over to www.SKSboards.com. I will tell you the same answer there too.


Also check out this site.    http://yooperj.com/

5/8/2010 7:01:29 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Yes, go over to www.SKSboards.com. I will tell you the same answer there too.


Also check out this site.    http://yooperj.com/



Does not make the answer correct, but others with more intelligence will give you the correct answer......
5/9/2010 5:53:38 AM EDT
[#9]
You have yourself a first year production Chinese there.  Congrats!



It is made on the platform of a Russian receiver at the Jianshe Arsenal /26\ in very late 1955 into 1956, hence the designation Sino-Soviet.  The telltale sign is the serial number, a letter followed by four numbers (most common).



The gun has seen some parts replaced since.  The stock and bayo are obvious.  There may also have been other metal parts replaced, which is why EAB1911 has asked if all the other stamped numbers match.  There are a limited number of these that completely match, but this one is mid-range collectible even with the refurb parts.



You have done well with you first SKS!
5/9/2010 6:34:32 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
You have yourself a first year production Chinese there.  Congrats!

It is made on the platform of a Russian receiver at the Jianshe Arsenal /26\ in very late 1955 into 1956, hence the designation Sino-Soviet.  The telltale sign is the serial number, a letter followed by four numbers (most common).

The gun has seen some parts replaced since.  The stock and bayo are obvious.  There may also have been other metal parts replaced, which is why EAB1911 has asked if all the other stamped numbers match.  There are a limited number of these that completely match, but this one is mid-range collectible even with the refurb parts.

You have done well with you first SKS!


I for 1 thank you Martin for chiming in....   Now I'd like to know if the serial number on the stock matches the rest. If it does then this is one of those rare (to me) cases where a Sino has a spike bayo vs. the blade....

If it does not then definitely the stock is wrong.....

5/9/2010 7:01:24 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Yes, go over to www.SKSboards.com. I will tell you the same answer there too.


Also check out this site.    http://yooperj.com/



Does not make the answer correct, but others with more intelligence will give you the correct answer......





5/9/2010 7:13:35 AM EDT
[#12]
Through 1964, the Chinese used the blade bayo and introduced the spike in '65.



The gun pictured is obviously configured for a blade at the front stock ferrule and cut for a spike on the stock.  During the refurb process it likely received either an unnumbered stock (in China) or a numbered one from a different gun (un-bubba'd here in US).  I would highly doubt the serial will match on the wood unless it was forge stamped here.



I assume that the only reason that it has a spike is because the blade won't mate in the stock cut.  The Chinese original and refurbs all came with blades to my knowledge.  But I have seen several equipped with spikes and I suspect it was done here in the US.



The original stock would have had the four numbers behind the side mounted swivel, and a star stamped on the right side.













Mine is a Chinese refurb with the original stock, but had some of the metal parts redone.  You can see the old number was scrubbed from the receiver cover and re-stamped to match.  The trigger guard is similar.











The whole gun pictured here.












5/9/2010 7:20:22 AM EDT
[#13]
Thats a nice rifle .
5/9/2010 8:01:22 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Through 1964, the Chinese used the blade bayo and introduced the spike in '65.

The gun pictured is obviously configured for a blade at the front stock ferrule and cut for a spike on the stock.  During the refurb process it likely received either an unnumbered stock (in China) or a numbered one from a different gun (un-bubba'd here in US).  I would highly doubt the serial will match on the wood unless it was forge stamped here.

I assume that the only reason that it has a spike is because the blade won't mate in the stock cut. The Chinese original and refurbs all came with blades to my knowledge.  But I have seen several equipped with spikes and I suspect it was done here in the US.

The original stock would have had the four numbers behind the side mounted swivel, and a star stamped on the right side.

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/sino_011.jpg


http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/sino1_001.jpg

Mine is a Chinese refurb with the original stock, but had some of the metal parts redone.  You can see the old number was scrubbed from the receiver cover and re-stamped to match.  The trigger guard is similar.


http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/sino1_007.jpg


The whole gun pictured here.


http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/sino_strap_001.jpg


http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/medium/sino_strap_004.jpg





I used to think this as well, I was corrected by beachbum (I think), stating that not all came with a blade posting pics of stock with the correct SN# and a spike, I tried to find the thread to no avail......  Thanks again for the info

Added:

After thinking about it, you are right it was around 64 or 65 that the spikes started to be used so how would they have used a spike on a 56....   Don't know, if I where the OP I'd find a correct stock and bayo for it.....

Thanks again



5/9/2010 11:40:43 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
That is the correct cut for a blade bayonet.
Do all of the numbers on the metal parts match?
The stock looks to have been replaced. It is cut for a spike bayonet. The original Sino Soviet SKS rifles had a side mounted sling swivel, and were cut for a blade bayonet.


sorry for late reply guys
receiver and bolt carrier # matches, and also noticed a #20 on the receiver and barrel, both match.  receiver top cover and trigger group assembly does not match
some more pics








5/9/2010 11:43:14 PM EDT
[#16]
martin nice rifle,  know where i can get a stock like that?
5/10/2010 7:05:27 AM EDT
[#17]
They are hard to come by.  You'll likely have to sift through the usual haunts of ebay and Gunbroker and inspect all ads for Chinese wooden stock.  You may get lucky and find a Sino or an early blade bayo cut equivalent.  I have only found one other in years of looking.
5/17/2010 8:13:20 AM EDT
[#18]
Yours is not a Sino-Soviet.  It is just a typical Chi-com SKS.  If it were Sino it you have a cyrillic letter prior the the 4 or 5 digit serial number.   A lot of Chi-com SKS rifles came with blade bayonets.
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