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Posted: 9/22/2009 5:47:34 PM EDT
my brother has an SKS, (that I bought him  ) and neither of us know anything about it. He has a few questions that I figured someone here could answer.
1. What is a "compliance kit" for an SKS? yes he saw them on TAPCO.com 2. Does that kit come with everything necessary to add detachable mags? 3. If so how hard is it to do yourself? Assume that this person is an amatuer. 4.If it is not to hard to do by yourself, are there places other than Tapco to find these kits? Thanks in advance. I really know nothing about the gun. I got it at an unbeatable rock bottom price from a guy a know and decided to give it to my brother, who is a fudd, and now that he is out shooting it with me and my "high capacity"(compared to his gun) magazine fed AR's, he has decided he would like to drop a little coin on the gun and make it "cooler looking" |
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1. What is a "compliance kit" for an SKS? yes he saw them on TAPCO.com If you buy the Tapco Stock Kit it comes with all the compliance parts. 2. Does that kit come with everything necessary to add detachable mags? Yes, you can buy the detachable 20 rounders by Tapco. 3. If so how hard is it to do yourself? Assume that this person is an amatuer. It is beyond simple and really acquires no knowledge, as long as you can take the wood stock off your rifle then you can put the plastic one on. 4.If it is not to hard to do by yourself, are there places other than Tapco to find these kits? There are a few places for sure. Here is a link to another dealer I googled Tapco Stock and another SKS Stock |
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...another one bites the dust ...  LOL. I hear you on that, but what can you do  Guys this is a technical forum. If this was GD you could blather on about how shitty a "Tapco fucked" SKS is till your hearts content. But I am asking TECHNICAL questions. I would appreciate it if you would keep those kinds of negative opinions out of this forum, or at the very least this thread. |
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1. What is a "compliance kit" for an SKS? yes he saw them on TAPCO.com If you buy the Tapco Stock Kit it comes with all the compliance parts. 2. Does that kit come with everything necessary to add detachable mags? Yes, you can buy the detachable 20 rounders by Tapco. 3. If so how hard is it to do yourself? Assume that this person is an amateur. It is beyond simple and really acquires no knowledge, as long as you can take the wood stock off your rifle then you can put the plastic one on. 4.If it is not to hard to do by yourself, are there places other than Tapco to find these kits? There are a few places for sure. Here is a link to another dealer I googled Tapco Stock and another SKS Stock I understand that if you buy the stock it comes with the parts, I was wondering WHAT a compliance kit was? What parts are in there? What exactly do these parts comply with? Do they bring a post ban gun up to speed now that the ban is over? Or does it mean they make the gun "COMPLY" with detachable magazines? It appeared on Tapco's website that one of the parts was a flash hider. How easy it to install one of those yourself? I would think that an amateur would need to send it off to a gunsmith. |
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Compliant parts on the SKS
Yugo with grenade launcher 15 parts,grenade launcher is the 15th part. All other SKS rifles 14 parts You have to end up with 10 or less of the original imported parts to be 922 compliant (Federal Law) once you remove one of the original parts,which means removing and replacing 5 parts on the Yugo M59/66 and 4 parts on all other SKS rifles. Tapco Compliance kit replaces all the necessary parts: stock 1 part,hand guard 1 part,Yugo muzzle brake 1 part(YUGO ONLY),Tapco 20 rd mag. 2 parts mag body and follower and the gas piston 1 part. How to remove the grenade launcher http://www.surplusrifle.com/shooting2005/grlaunchremove/index.asp |
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...another one bites the dust ... LOL. I hear you on that, but what can you do Guys this is a technical forum. If this was GD you could blather on about how shitty a "Tapco fucked" SKS is till your hearts content. But I am asking TECHNICAL questions. I would appreciate it if you would keep those kinds of negative opinions out of this forum, or at the very least this thread. Think you're over reacting a bit? You "blathered on" a lot more than both of us put together, 57 words vs. 18 words, by my count. |
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Nobody is trying to rain on your parade bro, but you are also coming into a section of the forum a lot of C&R guys take pretty serious and defacing an original configuration SKS is going to raise some eyebrows whether you like it or not. Just because it is a technical forum does not mean people do not have opinions, the statement he made and myself should not have upset you in the manner it did.
I gave you answers to each of your questions without straying from the subject. Outside of that not all technical questions get answered in a black and white way, there is a grey area and you have found it. Take it for what it's worth. |
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...another one bites the dust ... LOL. I hear you on that, but what can you do Guys this is a technical forum. If this was GD you could blather on about how shitty a "Tapco fucked" SKS is till your hearts content. But I am asking TECHNICAL questions. I would appreciate it if you would keep those kinds of negative opinions out of this forum, or at the very least this thread. Not a very technical question.............. Tapco's website also is a great source of info for Tapco products- reading the text as well as just looking at the neat pictures will give a lot of information about the particular product. The SKS is an imported weapon- subject to different regulations than a domestic semi auto so the terms "pre-ban" or "post-ban" are meaningless if you're talking about making modifications now. There are additional restrictions in the federal code, other than the now expired AWB. It is illegal to assemble a copy (modify a existing imported rifle) to a configuration that would not be legal for import (add "restricted features" such as pistol grips, high cap detachable mags, etc.) The BATFE has defined an imported weapon as having more then ten components from a list of parts commonly found on semiautomatic rifles. The "regular" SKS has 14 "listed" parts, the Yugo 59/66 15. If the number of counted foreign parts is reduced to 10 or less, the weapon is no longer considered an import and free of the restrictions from that particular section of law, hence the "compliance kit" Generally the most common parts to change are the stock and handguard (US made parts replace two imported parts), magazine (US mag body and follower take two more imported parts off the rifle). For the Yugos the "additional " replaced part is often either the gas piston or muzzle attachment (a brake taking the place of the grenade launcher spigot) Usually the complete "Compliance kit" will include more parts than actually necessary Technically the SKS will work and even handle better with its original milspec parts |
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...another one bites the dust ... LOL. I hear you on that, but what can you do Guys this is a technical forum. If this was GD you could blather on about how shitty a "Tapco fucked" SKS is till your hearts content. But I am asking TECHNICAL questions. I would appreciate it if you would keep those kinds of negative opinions out of this forum, or at the very least this thread. Not a very technical question.............. Tapco's website also is a great source of info for Tapco products- reading the text as well as just looking at the neat pictures will give a lot of information about the particular product. The SKS is an imported weapon- subject to different regulations than a domestic semi auto so the terms "pre-ban" or "post-ban" are meaningless if you're talking about making modifications now. There are additional restrictions in the federal code, other than the now expired AWB. It is illegal to assemble a copy (modify a existing imported rifle) to a configuration that would not be legal for import (add "restricted features" such as pistol grips, high cap detachable mags, etc.) The BATFE has defined an imported weapon as having more then ten components from a list of parts commonly found on semiautomatic rifles. The "regular" SKS has 14 "listed" parts, the Yugo 59/66 15. If the number of counted foreign parts is reduced to 10 or less, the weapon is no longer considered an import and free of the restrictions from that particular section of law, hence the "compliance kit" Generally the most common parts to change are the stock and handguard (US made parts replace two imported parts), magazine (US mag body and follower take two more imported parts off the rifle). For the Yugos the "additional " replaced part is often either the gas piston or muzzle attachment (a brake taking the place of the grenade launcher spigot) Usually the complete "Compliance kit" will include more parts than actually necessary Technically the SKS will work and even handle better with its original milspec parts Thank you. Now I understand what the compliance kit actually does. Both legally and practically. "Technically the SKS will work and even handle better with its original milspec parts"
If your saying that adding these new parts is going to affect the function of the gun, I might try and back him off. but there are two things he is pretty much going to want regardless. They are, increased ammo capacity, and some way to mount some kind of optic. He loves shooting my AR with my trijicon acog, but I think he wants to put an EOTech. Is there no way to add a rail system without affecting function? |
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Scout Mount
http://161.58.206.244/store/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=scoutscopes&Category_Code=skscope How to install http://www.surplusrifle.com/reviews2005/sksscoutscopemnt/index.asp Although EOTech is a great sight,I feel it's way to expensive a sight for and SKS. The SKS is a good rifle and a Red Dot is a very adequate sight to use on it,but a simple 5 or 3 MOA dot sight will work just fine I use a $40 Tasco 5 MOA on my Chinese and it does all I need to do. |
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"Technically the SKS will work and even handle better with its original milspec parts" If your saying that adding these new parts is going to affect the function of the gun, I might try and back him off. but there are two things he is pretty much going to want regardless. They are, increased ammo capacity[/quote] "Duckbill" magazines are unwieldy at best, due to the duckbill and because the bolt has to be held back to get it out of the rifle. It is also difficult to load with more than ten cartridges using a stripper clip while it's in the rifle, because once the first ten cartridges are loaded the follower isn't there to keep the BHO in place while you try to put the second 10 cartridges in the magazine. Consequently, if the stripper clip isn't inserted and held in just the right place it moves the bolt and carrier back ever so slightly which causes the the BHO to drop down. As designed, this allows the bolt and carrier to go forward. Result? A difficult to clear jam. 
If one needs a 7.62x39 carbine that has a detachable magazine that holds more than 10 shots, Mr. Kalashnikov designed one that fits the bill quite nicely. |
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"Technically the SKS will work and even handle better with its original milspec parts" If one needs a 7.62x39 carbine that has a detachable magazine that holds more than 10 shots, Mr. Kalashnikov designed one that fits the bill quite nicely. That is true, or there is also the SKS-M and D model which are the best of both worlds. |
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