Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
AK Sponsor
4/18/2003 8:42:16 PM EDT
On the dark side.  

What are the best mags for my newly acquired SAR3, and what are the identifying marks?

Yeah, I know it's a dumbass newbie question.  Flog away!
4/18/2003 11:41:29 PM EDT
[#1]
I don't own a sar3 but from what I've read is the E. German weiger mags are the most reliable.
4/19/2003 2:51:18 AM EDT
[#2]
There are tree types of mags.

The first type sre converted E.G. or Russian bakelite mags that have been modified.  They are ok, but that about it.

The second type are the Bulgarian .223 mags.  They are supposedly pretty good, but still not totally reliable.

The last type is the German Weiger mag.  They are widely considered the only way to go for reliability.  Cost is about $20 each.  Expensive as hell for us AK guys, but cheap to an AR guy!
4/19/2003 5:17:52 AM EDT
[#3]
For a SAR3, Weigers, usually at aimsurplus or interordinance.
4/19/2003 5:48:23 AM EDT
[#4]
www.cdnninvestments is a good place to look as well.
4/19/2003 7:25:14 AM EDT
[#5]

The second type are the Bulgarian .223 mags. They are supposedly pretty good, but still not totally reliable.


3 minutes with a fine tooth bastard file and they can be 100%.  You just have to remove a small amount of plastic in the right areas to lower the feed angle(this is controled by the mag shoulder).  The mod is super easy if you understand what you are doing.
4/19/2003 8:28:32 AM EDT
[#6]
Is the file called a "bastard file" or do you just not like the thing?
4/19/2003 8:31:46 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Is the file called a "bastard file" or do you just not like the thing?



That is the official name for that style of file...


4/19/2003 9:31:09 PM EDT
[#8]
So how do I tell a Weiger from a Bulgarian mag?  I'm looking at a (I hope it's a Weiger) mag.  It has 2 tits on the floorplate, to compress the spring to disassemble the mag, a ridge up the back that has spot welds every quarter inch or so, and a mag catch on the upper front of it that looks like it has been milled on the sides. I can plainly see the milling marks in the mag catch, even though they have been blued.  The mag looks new, and very well made.



Thanks.
Tim

As far as the "bastard file" goes, please see my feedback.....
4/19/2003 9:34:41 PM EDT
[#9]
No plastic anywhere on this mag.  I do have a bakelite mag to compare it to.

Thanks,
Tim
4/20/2003 4:13:38 AM EDT
[#10]
the 5.56x45 east german weiger magazine is very similar to the old ak-47 (7.62x39) magazine.

the weiger is manufactured from steel, as opposed too the polymer bulgarian 5.56 magazines. the weiger has less curvature to the magazine bidy, again due to the cartridge geometry of the 5.56 round. it is also slightly thinner and longer (front to rear) than the old 7.62 magazine.

bulgarian 5.56 mags are injection molded from glass reinforced polymer. they are in the 7.62x39 "waffle" (grid) pattern and feature overshot (molded into the plastic) steel latch points and feed lips. these are identifiable by the curvature, waffle pattern and the code 10 or code 21 molded into the bottom side of the magazine body.
4/20/2003 6:03:21 AM EDT
[#11]
The steel with the two buttons on the bottom for takedown are wieger.  As is likely the 10 rounder that came with the rifle.  They are totally reliable.  I also note that with use the converted bakelites worked fine for me as well, they just took a while to get broken in.
4/20/2003 10:28:35 AM EDT
[#12]
You guys rock!!!

Looks like I have 5 brand new Weigers!  Thanks for the help!  Now I need a 7.62x39 AK to go with the SAR3...  And a FAL...  And a M1...this sure is an expensive hobby, but well worth the $$$

Thanks!
4/20/2003 11:02:18 AM EDT
[#13]
Yep, Steel Weigers seem to work the best. I'm glad you could join with us on the DARK SIDE of the force.
AK Sponsor