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9/29/2015 7:03:28 PM EDT
I would like to convert my wasr 10 with wood buttstock to a manticore triangle and stormwerkz folding hinge.
Is there a third piece I need to complete the conversion?

I'm not terribly comfortable with AKs - is there an AK specific 'smith anyone can recommend to do the install/conversion?

9/29/2015 11:43:35 PM EDT
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You'll need a receiver block to bolt the hinge to See ACE, and you'll have to loose the rear tang. It's an easy DIY. Most rear stocks fit so tight that if you change your mind and want to go back to fixed stock, you can most likely get away w/o having to weld the tang back on and only use the hidden screw under the recoil spring assmbly to put it back on. Save your tang just in case.
9/30/2015 11:41:43 AM EDT
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You'll need a receiver block to bolt the hinge to See ACE, and you'll have to loose the rear tang. It's an easy DIY. Most rear stocks fit so tight that if you change your mind and want to go back to fixed stock, you can most likely get away w/o having to weld the tang back on and only use the hidden screw under the recoil spring assmbly to put it back on. Save your tang just in case.
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Hmm, do you maybe have a (decent) youtube link or some tutorial?
9/30/2015 12:31:28 PM EDT
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What the block looks like: http://riflestocks.com/store/product61.html


Video for a Saiga done by Carolina Shooters Supply -- they sell some parts too:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apHGSExPmUo[/youtube]

CNC Warrior sells a folder that doesn't require the tang to be cut. Nice peice of kit.



9/30/2015 5:47:03 PM EDT
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What the block looks like: http://riflestocks.com/store/product61.html



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That's a good price/reputable vendor?
9/30/2015 9:05:35 PM EDT
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Ace pretty much invented the thing, but you can get copies cheaper. Check out the sight of the vender from the You- Tube vid. Good people and good prices with alternatives.
10/4/2015 1:44:40 AM EDT
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ACE receiver block, Stormwerkz hinge, and Manticore triangle.  I believe the swivel was from Carolina Shooters Supply:



The only permanent mod is to cut the rear tang off.


The tang can be reattached:



You'll be more than capable of doing it all yourself except for maybe welding the tang back on.  I did everything but that and I have no mechanical inclinations or abilities.  Just cut the tang off straight and save it.

10/4/2015 5:12:43 PM EDT
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Ace pretty much invented the thing, but you can get copies cheaper. Check out the sight of the vender from the You- Tube vid. Good people and good prices with alternatives.
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I don't quite understand that. Got. Link to the vid?
10/5/2015 4:38:59 PM EDT
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I don't quite understand that. Got. Link to the vid?
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Ace pretty much invented the thing, but you can get copies cheaper. Check out the sight of the vender from the You- Tube vid. Good people and good prices with alternatives.

I don't quite understand that. Got. Link to the vid?


Not sure about what video he means, but probably referencing the Stormwerkz hinge, which is a fairly close copy of the ACE mechanism.

Stormwerkz used to be the only one that locked closed, but ACE now has one that does that as well, including a button release.
10/5/2015 5:31:46 PM EDT
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So this Ace piece + this stormwerkz folder + this stock?
10/13/2015 5:58:51 PM EDT
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Anybody?
10/13/2015 7:19:04 PM EDT
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Yes,

It will look like what Scotter260 posted though you'll have to add a swivel to it.

After you cut off the tang you use the single remaining buttstock mounting screw under the receiver cover. You will need to get the correct machine screw from ACE if it doesn't come with it.

You will also have to remove your pistol grip and nut to install this. Your pistol grip nut goes through the square hole on the bottom front of the adapter and you re-attach your grip. This helps lock the adapter down and is more than strong enough. East German and Polish wire side folders use the same principle, though they don't require cutting the tang.

The hardest part (emotionally) is cutting your tang off. File it flush with the receiver and de-burr the inside before you install the adapter.

Wpns Man
10/14/2015 11:39:30 AM EDT
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Yes,

It will look like what Scotter260 posted though you'll have to add a swivel to it. swivel is optional, right?

After you cut off the tang you use the single remaining buttstock mounting screw under the receiver cover. You will need to get the correct machine screw from ACE if it doesn't come with it.

You will also have to remove your pistol grip and nut to install this. Your pistol grip nut goes through the square hole on the bottom front of the adapter and you re-attach your grip. This helps lock the adapter down and is more than strong enough. East German and Polish wire side folders use the same principle, though they don't require cutting the tang.

The hardest part (emotionally) is cutting your tang off. File it flush with the receiver and de-burr the inside before you install the adapter.

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Thank you

Dremel okay?
10/14/2015 7:56:37 PM EDT
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Swivel is optional,

The tang is rather substantial to cut off with the Dremel cut off disk. I would use a hack saw as it will make quick work of it and you can have one straight cut. True it up flush with the end of the receiver and de-burr it with a flat file and you should be good to go.

Wpns Man
10/15/2015 11:15:12 AM EDT
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Swivel is optional,

The tang is rather substantial to cut off with the Dremel cut off disk. I would use a hack saw as it will make quick work of it and you can have one straight cut. True it up flush with the end of the receiver and de-burr it with a flat file and you should be good to go.

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Sweet
10/23/2015 5:32:57 AM EDT
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I take it it is too late to suggest the simple, no smithing required Romy sidefolder? Not as cool as the folder to the left, but cheap, reversible, strong, and works with the flick of a lever and a rocking of the gun.
10/23/2015 11:03:51 AM EDT
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I take it it is too late to suggest the simple, no smithing required Romy sidefolder? Not as cool as the folder to the left, but cheap, reversible, strong, and works with the flick of a lever and a rocking of the gun.
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I have not pulled the trigger yet but I was pretty set on that setup. I can check out the romy sidefolder though. Thanks.
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