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Posted: 2/2/2010 9:56:08 AM EDT
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I have two Romanians. One has a triangle with an vertical arrow followed by 1968 and the serial nbr.
The other one does not have a triangle or date just a serial nbr. They both are GP 10/63's. They are the same rifle with the exception that the triangle one came with a G2 fgc. Does anyone know what the triangle might designate? Or why the other one has no triangle? |
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Does anyone know what the triangle might designate? Or why the other one has no triangle? 10/63s are made from complete rifles that are disassembled and then resaaembled on new receivers that only accept 10 shot magazines. The triangle that is on the trunnion is the arsenal mark. It indicates that the original rifle was made for issue to the Romanian military or Civil Guard. Some people have claimed that trunnions without the triangle came from rifles that were made for export. I haven't seen any evidence to support or refute that claim. |
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Triangle with arrow = Romanian military Triangle without arrow = Romanian Civil Guard It's not that simple. Civil Guard rifles made before some date in 1980 had the arrow in triangle arsenal mark and the serial number 19XX followed by two letters and then four digits. Those built after some date in 1980 have just the triangle and have an "S" after the year of manufacture in the serial number followed by two letters and four digits. Romanan military rifles had different serial number patterns. |
| There was more than one factory producing their military weapons and with the different years, different patterns of serial numbers came about. It's actually quite confusing to understand just why they did what they did. There's about four or five styles of logo/serial number patterns on their rifle trunnions. Hopefully someday, more information will be known about them. |
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Triangle with arrow = Romanian military Triangle without arrow = Romanian Civil Guard It's not that simple. Civil Guard rifles made before some date in 1980 had the arrow in triangle arsenal mark and the serial number 19XX followed by two letters and then four digits. Those built after some date in 1980 have just the triangle and have an "S" after the year of manufacture in the serial number followed by two letters and four digits. Romanan military rifles had different serial number patterns. I don't think the year is part of the serial number. It only appears on the trunion. Several parts of the Romy AK's are serialized. |
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Triangle with arrow = Romanian military Triangle without arrow = Romanian Civil Guard It's not that simple. Civil Guard rifles made before some date in 1980 had the arrow in triangle arsenal mark and the serial number 19XX followed by two letters and then four digits. Those built after some date in 1980 have just the triangle and have an "S" after the year of manufacture in the serial number followed by two letters and four digits. Romanan military rifles had different serial number patterns. I don't think the year is part of the serial number. It only appears on the trunion. Several parts of the Romy AK's are serialized. The trunnion has the COMPLETE serial number on it. It has more than four digits. It has either 8 digits (of which 4 are the year of manufacture), or at least 6 digits (of which 2 are the year of manufacture). The rest of the parts will have only 4 digits or will contain all of the serial number except the year of manufacture. For example, a "G" rifle made in 1979 will have the serial number such as 1979 KB XXXX. The recoil spring guide will be marked XXXX. The rear sight leaf will be marked KBXXXX. A "G" rifle made in 1981 will have a serial number such as 1981 S-AOXXXX. The rear sight leaf is marked S AJXXXX. The recoil spring guide is marked XXXX. The rifles made for the military sometime have the year of manufacutre as the first 2 digits and sometimes have it as the last 2 digits. In addition, I've seen one (but only one) all matching numbers kit that did not have the rsb marked with a "G" and did not have the black band on the stock that had the year of manufacture marked in 4 digits. Whether that means that some military issue rifles had a complete year of manufacture is not clear to me. A sample of one is too small to draw valid conclusions. |
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