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Posted: 8/11/2007 8:23:54 PM EDT
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Hello! I bought my first AK-47 this week, imported by Century Arms. The Tapco trigger sure has a "surprise" let off! hoot,but... http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/StarJack/IMG_2651.jpg I discovered while sighting it in today it shot hard to the left. After drifting the front sight as far as it would go to the left it still shoots a good 3 inches left at only 25 meters. I've never purchased a weapon from Century Arms before, is this something they would correct under warranty? How much would it cost and how difficult would it be to put a windage adjustable rear sight on the weapon? Thanks! |
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Hmmm, search engine is rather limited. hinking.gif Not sure (and couldn't find with search) what you meant by FSB. The sight base is welded to the barrel so...? By Halo sight do you meant like an Eotech? |
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With a WASR you get what you pay for, a bottom of the barrel example of an AK-47 type rifle. The FSB is the front sight. It shouldn't be welded. You have discovered one of the pitfalls of buying a cheap WASR without researching what to check for before your purchase. Check out Linx310's site to identify cant on the FSB and Gas block. If the FSB is canted then your rifle may shoot off to the right or left without enough adjustment left to correct the POI onto the POA. To correct this you would need to adjust the FSB by removing the crosspins, straightening the FSB and drill for oversize pins. If you can't do the fix yourself, you will need to send this new rifle back to Century and have them attempt to fix it. If the FSB is not canted, then check the rear sight block and see if it is straight and that your rear sight leaf isn't uneven. An adjustable rear sight is available from Northridge but it may be an RPK type sight. Global Trades also used to have the adjustable sights available. |
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Mak, thanks, you're correct on all counts. The FSB is canted slightly to the right. This was an impulse purchase with no research and although I did realize I was bottom fishing I did not realize just how pathetic the bottom of the barrel was. This picture is why I think it's been welded: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v327/StarJack/IMG_2653.jpg I'll talk to the selling dealer midweek, he can "turn a wrench" and has been helpful in the past. If he can't assist in the fix I'll weigh the damage between shipping to Century and taking a beating on selling it back. The thing jammed trying to strip the last round from both clips (30 round with 10 rounds each) while trying to sight it in, so I may have other issues with the mags or rifle. I do know my impulsive purchase has come back to bite me and I've no one but myself to blame. Meager solace in that though. hanks |
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What year is that rifle? I didn't think they were still welding muzzle nuts on them. That is going to complicate fixing it yourself. It appears they notched the muzzle nut and welded to the barrel. Even if you cut the weld to get the muzzle nut off, the FSB is not going to move if you try to straighten it with the way it is now welded. You would have to grind the weld bead to break the FSB loose. You are screwed. The current ones mostly have TAPCO FCGs and threaded muzzles with a removable muzzle device. They have slant brakes, a bayonet and run around $330.00. How much did it cost? Did you buy it from a storefront dealer? My opinion. I would take it back and tell him it won't shoot on target and that it doesn't feed correctly and get your money back. |
| sorry to hear about your first ak experince not being so good.the wasr is the bottom of the barrel ak,with that being said i have had two of them a both have been good shooters.they have the usual fit and finish issues but the function has been very reliable.i hope you don't think that all ak's are like the wasr.i would have the gun fixed by century or have it replaced. you could step up to the $500.00 range and get a really nice vector ak.if you get any more romanian guns always check them in person if possible before buying for the issues they seem to have.i have a yugo m70 made by century that is excellent in fit and finish as compared to the wasr.i hope you get things worked out so you can enjoy the dark side like the rest of us here. |
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I know from personal experience how bad a WASR can be. I also know that you can get a pretty good WASR. Its not going to have the fit and finish of the more expensive models but it should have the realiability of any AK. A WASR, so long as you know what to look for and get a good one, is a perfectly legitimate way to get your feet wet. If you don't like a well functioning WASR chances are you aren't going to have your head turned by a better model (and yes I have better models). You got a lemon. I personally would not waste my time or the dealers time working on Century's mistake. Its under warrantee. Send it back on their dime, explain what is wrong, and have them ship you a new gun. Keep any accessories that came with the gun that are in good condition because you can get a fine replacement gun that has crappy accessories. Century has horrible QC and the only way they are ever going to notice is if people STOP accepting their crap and fixing it themselves and start making them pay every time they send out a POS. Cheers, RWB64 |
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Mak, Yeah I know. Gambled and lost. Paid $349 from Forsyth Pawn. Knew I could get it cheaper elsewhere, the guy that works there has been helpful with other things. Like I said. Impulse buy, bad idea. It was sold as new (green tag), no bayonet though. Has the following receiver markings; GP WASR 10/63 0 (looks like a symbol I can't make out, stamp is light) 1-7 62x39mm The barrel was pristine after I cleaned and inspected it. If it turns out this was a rebarreled surplus then I was mislead. And no I certainly don't hold this against AK's. I just wanted a beater to learn how they work and clean up. Just didn't expect one that couldn't be sighted in. I'll contact Century on Wednesday (my work schedule is very unorthodox) before I go to the dealer and either ship it back to them or see if the dealer will help me. With only a little reading I figure I should have bought something more along these lines: Vector Who would have the best price on those? Thanks everyone for the info, I'll post the follow up to the 'FNG screwed himself' story later.h.gif |
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My buddie has the same problem...century told him 3 to 4 weeks on the return but they are taking care of the canted FSB and are aware of the problem along with distributors and as my boy found out the dealer who weve both done alot of buisness with in the last 15 years who gave him a problem about sending the rifle out on his dime for shipping to have the waruntee work done. I would have just said take it back and give me my money..especialy when a sales rep said the shop was aware of it but feel as long as the rifle functions they dont consider the canted FSB a problem  maybe not a problem for folks who shoot targets and dont add weapons to their firearms table for actualy use and possible dependance ...in that scenario you want something that on a basic level should be able to have working iron sights.I know AKs arent the most accurate but my MAADI does way way better than the 5" left his rifle was shooting at 50 yds.Ive never shot any AK that wasnt dead on at 50yds.I could plit rail road ties all day at that range with my $350 MADDI and it should be so even with a WASR10.Im glad century is taking care of it but it shouldnt leave the factory if they know its that way...same with distributors and dealers. |
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FYI, the dealer said I could come in and we'd work something out, or I could call Century. I actually kind of like this ole ugly POS rifle. Kind of like a date I had in high school once, I had fun but I wouldn't go around showing off her picture. he So I called Century, explained both issues (sight and feeding) and they said ship it to them and they would fix or replace. So the WASR is sitting at a Fedex store as I type. I'll let you know how they did when I receive the rifle back. Thanks for the feedback and assistance! |
By all means, do. Everybody likes a happy ending! |
I may take out the dremmel tool and some sandpaper when the weapon comes home. You could carve stone with the edges on the receiver where they milled it out for high cap mags! 
FYI, after having the rifle for 3 weeks Century Arms hasn't touched it yet. It appears they have a recall which Century Arms management has decided takes priority over the other defective firearms they've sold. I'm now told I can expect delays of 5-6 weeks on top of the usual turn around time of 3-4 weeks. Maybe I'll have an update before Halloween. |
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I got some good info off of this board before I bought my WASR-10. As long as you know the issues and check for them the WASR-10 is a great deal. A little time with some oil stain and sandpaper and the stock looks and feels good and it shoots. That is really all I wanted out of it. It's a box stock AK platform that I can train with. |
I don't mind the wood,but it's getting a synthitic stock ASP and probably OD green |
There isn't a WASR on this planet that holds a candle to a Chinese AK for fit, finish, build quality or durability. You need to hold your "What A Shitty Rifle" up next to a Chinese AK and wear your glasses. |
seems better then any of the Chinese guns I've had.
Their SKS's are great,have one for a loong time (almost fifteen years) but I also have a family member who has a MAK 90 sporter-that sumbitch just don't seem "right" mostly as it's too heavy. The WASR-10 is nice and lite,and it's put together o-k not perfect but good enough,I've heard it called a "basic" AK and that's what I like For the money I can add on to it and not go broke. |
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