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Posted: 6/8/2007 6:59:35 PM EDT
| do any of the manufactorers custom build aks? if i want all us parts, including a reciever, a caa stock & grip and rails on the front end.... who would i go to? |
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None of the major manufacturers will do that, AFAIK. However, just about any of the custom builders will be able to do anything you want. You'll likely need to buy a kit and the custom parts you want installed and send it all to them. For instance, you can buy a nice Romy kit for about $120 and a good US receiver for less than $100. Then you'll just have to decide which custom parts you want to include and talk to a builder to discuss the labor costs. If you want one that's comprised of 100% US made parts, you'll be spending a LOT of money, though. |
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Not sure why you'd want "all" US parts, as part of the mystique of AK's is their foreign authenticness (if that's a word). The norm is to buy an imported foreign AK parts kit and build it with a US made receiver like a DCI or an Armory USA. You only need to ensure that (6) parts are US-made to satisfy ATF law 922r. The most common parts to swap out are the Fire Control Group (trigger, hammer, disconnector), gas piston, muzzle device, pistol grip, and handguards. You can choose which parts to swap out to meet the 6 part reqirement. If the foreign stock is wood, most guys keep them and change other parts. Anyway, there are various custom AK builders out there. I can personally vouch for Will over at Red Jacket firearms. Quailty work, attention to detail, excellent fit and fininsh, and good customer service. You buy the kit and receiver yourself and send it to him, or just tell him what you want, and he'll buy the kit a parts (if available) and do the build. http://www.redstick-firearms.com/ |
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All of the usual retailers have Romy kits available if you want a good 7.62x39 rifle. There are Bulgarian 5.45x39 rifles and Krinks at K-VAR and ORF. Or, if you want something more exotic, you can find RPD/RPK kits at a few retailers. Also, any decent builder should have access to receivers. I'd recommend you stick with NDS or GT/AUSA receivers. You can check the EE here and probably find what you need. |
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Depends what kit(s) you want, but you should really talk to a couple builders before buying anything for a custom job. They may tell you something that you didn't think of. BUt if you can't wait, I 2nd what DRich said above. Below is one more source, but you can just do a Google search on AK Parts Kits. http://www.ftfindustries.com/ |
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wow. i just configured what i consider to be a pretty cool tacticool ak for about $470 shipped. now i just got to figure out how to put the damn thing together. romy parts kit $144 shipped stock $111.10 pistol grip $39.95 quad rail handguards $59.95 stamped reciever $70 red stick wants $250 to assemble everything, so i'm thinking no on them. any other suggestions on who to get to reassemble everything? |
nope. click the link i posted for the parts kit. that's included. i've sent a PM to someone on the EE about a wasr-10, but i'm still looking at $211 for the stock, grip and handguards. so that'll put me in about $531 total build; if i go that route. i want a good gun, that's why i've shied away from the wasrs. hell i might not even go with the quad rails on the front end. but i definatly want the caa pistol grip and the magpul xcr stock on it. classic arms has 7.62x39 saiga's for $249, but then i still have to do the conversion. so $249 + 20 (fflt) + 111.10 (stock) + 39 (grip) + $35 (tapco g2 fcg) + 20 (shipping on stock/grip/fcg) = 474 + 150 for labor to do the conversion (red-stick) = 624 maybe i'm being to picky about the hardware i want on mine.... hell i'm getting close to a BASIC ar cost. of course then i have to put all the goodies on it to. |
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He's right, $250 is a good price for a build. I don't think I'd trust a smith who charged any less than that. I also don't know why you want to put all those AR parts on an AK, but it's your money. If you want an adjustable stock, consider an underfolder or side folder. The CTR stock and CAA pistol grip will not make the AK any more ergonomic and it will look like crap, IMO. It almost sounds like you want to make an AK into something that it isn't. If you want an AR, just save up a little longer and buy one. |
that's just it. i don't want an ar. well, yeah i kinda do. i've thought about just getting a 7.62x39 variant of an ar. i just haven't really looked into it. i'm not so stuck on a collapsible stock all that much really. i don't know. the grip is a must though. maybe i should just get: a vector arms and switch out the grip. |
| You would be better off buying a 7.62x39 SAIGA rifle and doing the conversion or having Redstick do the $150.00 basic conversion. When you come up with a bit more money you could pick up the extra parts from dinzag to switch out the front handguards if you want to go that way. That would be better than getting a WASR. If you can find the dimpled receiver saiga so much the better. |
no, i won't. had an ar. sold it. i know i'm opening a can of worms here, but .223 is an inferior round. now if i could find a 7.62x39 ar variant, i MIGHT go that way. basically i'm trying to build a shtf scenario patrol/mbr. something that will consistently hit center of mass, but is comfortable (hence the caa grip, stock and quad rail on the front for a vfg/light.) |
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Sounds like you might want the best of the both worlds. How about an AR chambered in 7.62x39 The November 06' issue of Special Weapons magazine has an article on MGI's Hydra Carbine that has interchangeability of (7) different calibers from .22LR up to 7.62x39 Just a thought..... http://www.mgimilitary.com/index.htm |
Model 1 Sales offers complete 7.62x39 AR15 kits. You'd only have to add a stripped lower receiver. |
No...the lowers are all the same for 5.56x45, 7.62x39, .50Beowulf, .450 SOCOM, 6.8SPC, 6.5Grendel, 9mm Para, etc. I have 8 different caliber uppers that I use on my lowers. Mags are the real issue for 7.62x39 AR's. You can use regular AR 30rd mags, but they won't hold more than 7rds of 7.62x39 before they bind up due to the tapered cases (that's why AK mags have such a severe curve). The original Colt 10rd mags are very reliable. There are also a few other 10rd 7.62x39 mags that work very well. The most reliable 30rd mags are the AK/AR "franken mags" which are hard to find and fairly expensive. I used the frankenmags with my Colt upper. It's a 20rd AR mag welded to a standard AK mag. They worked great in my rifle. They look like this: 
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a) i can't have sbr. it's illegal in the state of alabama b) there is no way in cold hell i would spend $1k on an ak. maybe on a high precision ar rig, but defiantly not on an ak variant. i think i found what i want. i gotta make a phone call monday to find out if it's what i think it is, and how much shipping is going to be. |
try going to someone else's thread and pooping on it. i didn't ask for your insults. |
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