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5/20/2007 5:30:12 AM EDT
My ak norinco 56s doesn't  have one now do I need one?
Thanks Mike
5/20/2007 8:08:15 AM EDT
[#1]
No.  In my opinion, no AK needs a buffer.  I've put tens of thousands of rounds through dozens of AK's in the past 20yrs and I've never used a buffer nor have I seen any evidence that the lack of a buffer caused any excess wear & tear on a rifle.
5/20/2007 8:38:26 AM EDT
[#2]
Thanks Rich still learning.
Mike
5/20/2007 9:47:32 AM EDT
[#3]
it helps soften the recoil on a underfolder, mine did
5/20/2007 12:01:04 PM EDT
[#4]
Why not get one?  They're only 10 bucks, and have to help a bit.
5/20/2007 12:27:09 PM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
Why not get one?  They're only 10 bucks, and have to help a bit.


+1 cheap insurance

The AK will last forever without one, but it doesn't HURT anything and keeps the carrier from whacking the rear trunion like a hammer every time you shoot.
5/20/2007 12:31:47 PM EDT
[#6]
My experience with them has been negative. I had a couple of rifles that had them for a short while and had a lot of malfunctions with them installed. Once removed, the malfunctions stopped and they have been 100% ever since.

I have yet to see any battering of the receiver, or even any indication the carrier is impacting at all.

I think a good indicator as to their need is what the issue AK's have in them.
5/20/2007 4:20:26 PM EDT
[#7]
I run them in everything, AK's-SKS's-Glocks-1911'S and even in my Stainless CZ75B. Have ran them for years with no problems what so ever. If you really shoot a weapon without one it will eventually batter it's self. When properly installed and providing it's not a cheepy. It can not stop the bolt from traveling back far enough to properly cycle the action there for making it impossible to cause any problems. NOW with that said, if it is a cheepy and is to thick it can keep the bolt from traveling back far enough to properly cycle the action. This can cause a couple of different problems. These are not caused because you used a buffer but because you used an improperly manufactured buffer. There are several weapons that have them installed from the factory with years of use and no problems. For instance, the AR15 and the Marlin camp rifles all have them factory installed and never a malfunction. I personally run them in my weapons well in excess of 2000 rounds befor ever having to replace one. This even though the factory usually recomends changing after 1000 rounds. You may not think they do anything but in the LONG RUN and I do meen LONG if you fire it enough you will see why maybe you should have used one. This is soley from my own experience. I will never stop using them. BECAUSE if I buy a weapon,  I demand flawless service and a lot of it. I appreciate a product that has never let me down. For the ocasional shooter that may have a rifle for a couple of years even and finally sells it for something different or because he just needs a little cash he would never see the need. Just think, of all the people you know that own firearms. How many of them really shoot enough to tax a weapon. This does take a lot of shooting. My 2 cents, for what it's worth. Have a great day man..
5/21/2007 3:45:59 PM EDT
[#8]
I've got a couple of AK's, each with well over 10000 rounds through them now, and they show no signs of battering. There are no signs of the carrier impacting the receiver, nor are the rivets falling out, or anything else.

The M16's buffer is a design of the gun, not a aftermarket gizmo. I've also owned quite a few 1911's and most autos you can probably name, and none has ever come with a buffer installed. I've also shot quite a few rounds through all of them and never noticed any kind of battering.

If you feel the need and it makes you feel good, by all means, have at it. Personally, I think they are a waste of money, and down right dangerous in a gun you may count on to defend yourself with. Then again, its not a worry for me, so, carry on. :)
5/22/2007 12:12:39 AM EDT
[#9]
AK's batter the rear of the receiver by design. Extra energetic cycling is built in for reliability. They are built to take it. So no, an AK doesn't "need" a buffer.

That doesn't mean that it is particularly pleasant for the user though. A buffer makes enough of a difference that you don't have check if one is installed. One rack of the action or one shot down range and you can tell if an AK is wearing a buffer.

I put a buffer in all my AKs unless/until they show any reliability issues with one installed. The overwhelming majority of AKs have no functional issue with wearing a buffer. If I was going to go "Red Dawn" on a bunch of invaders, I guess I'd pull the buffers out first. At the range a buffer makes the time just a touch more enjoyable.

Different strokes

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