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Posted: 4/13/2007 9:23:58 AM EDT
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My ak is threaded for a silencer and i'm not too clear on this issue...so my questions are... How would i go about obtaining a silencer and what are the legal issues surrounding it. |
If you live in Missouri you can't have a suppressor (silencer) unless you are a federally licensed manufacturer and have the SOT status. My gunstore has this and it costs us about $2200 each year to keep the license, so its pretty prohibitive unless you are going to be starting a legit business to make a profit. What you can do with the threads on your AK's barrel is put a flash hider/muzzle brake on the end of it. Nothing illegal about that since 2004. Here's some to choose from: www.globaltrades.com/ak_muzzl_1.html |
No such thing as subsonic ammo in a major caliber like 7.62 or 5.45. If you've got a round that's supposed to be doing 2300 fps out the muzzle and you remove enough powder to make it go only 850fps, well ammo loaded that weak wouldn't stand a chance of cycling the gun's action. You've just turned your gun into a short-cycling jam-o-matic. So you'll always have the supersonic crack of the bullet passing through the air, and it'll never be as quiet as an Mp5SD or a suppressed Mk23 Socom with that big slow .45acp round. Submachine guns can use subsonic ammo because they are designed to be shooting a pistol caliber to begin with. You can take a 9mm round doing 1100 fps and tame it down to 850 fps and the gun will usually cycle, because the difference in recoil impulse or gas pressure (depending on operating system) isn't that great. Even then, some guns are finicky with subsonic and you have to start messing with recoil spring strength and stuff like that to get them to run right. One of the suppressors we built for 5.56 takes the sound level down to about that of a .22 at the muzzle, but the sound of the bullet passing through the air is louder than the sound of the gun itself. Pretty cool effect actually. |
It needs to be legal in your state and either the Chief of Police of the city you live in or the sheriff of the county that you live in needs to sign the back of BATFE Form 4(legal transfer of suppressor ownership from C3 dealer/individual owner to you). Form 4 transfer can be done from one private party to another, provided it is legally owned by the seller and registered with NFA. Then you need to submit completed Form 4 with $200 NFA tax, duplicate Form 4, 2 passport photos attached to back of Form 4, and 2 FP(fingerprint) cards, and 1 cover page(Form OMB No. 1512-0571, Certification of Compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B)) signifying that you are a US citizen. Usu. getting the signature of the chief LEO in your area is the hardest part. In many counties/cities even in Texas(city/county of Dallas, for example), chief LEO are not willing to sign C3 paperwork. Best wishes! --John |
Not true. Not calling you out, just saying... I have a buddy that is friends with Ryan who owns Guns & More in Knoxville TN. He has a post sample krink that he has a can for. He loads his own subsonic and it cycles wonderfully. I wil be there the entire month of June. May try to get a video. If anyone is interested I will get the specs from him for that subsonic that makes. |
| Get the specs on what kind of recoil spring he has in it, or whether he modified the factory one. AKs may be more forgiving than I think since they are so over-engineered, but I bet he's massaged that particular gun to get it to run with the handloads (which, again, he's making specifically for that gun). |
The Russians produce a 7.62x39mm subsonic cartridge, the 57-N-231U. As I understand it, it runs in an unmodified AKM with a PBS suppressor. There were also some US made factory subsonic rounds with 220 grain bullets advertised in SGN about a year ago. |
Well I'll be damned. I'd really like to see the ballistic chart on one of those. Wonder what the burn rate of the powder is and so forth... |
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