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1/4/2007 8:11:04 AM EDT
I am in the market for another Ak or two and I don't have anything milled yet.  I was checking out some AK's on gunbroker and I came across a NIB Arsenal SAS Classic M-7 UF for damn near $1600.  I like the gun but 1600 for an AK seems kinda steep to me.  I did a search here on the SAS and didn't come up with anything useful so I tried to archive and I got a message to contact the admin and an error occured.  So basically I need to be schooled on this particular AK.  Is their any collector value and was there really only 200 of these made?  IF I get one I plan on shooting it regardless.  I was thinking for that price I just as well get 2 Slr-95s or something.
1/4/2007 8:30:53 AM EDT
[#1]

Quoted:
I am in the market for another Ak or two and I don't have anything milled yet.  I was checking out some AK's on gunbroker and I came across a NIB Arsenal SAS Classic M-7 UF for damn near $1600.  I like the gun but 1600 for an AK seems kinda steep to me.  I did a search here on the SAS and didn't come up with anything useful so I tried to archive and I got a message to contact the admin and an error occured.  So basically I need to be schooled on this particular AK.  Is their any collector value and was there really only 200 of these made?  IF I get one I plan on shooting it regardless.  I was thinking for that price I just as well get 2 Slr-95s or something.


Unfortunately, Arsenal is not producing milled rifles, so the costs are sky-rocketing.  Classic SAS models ran for around $1100.00-1250.00 depending on condition, who was selling, etc.  $1600 is way overpriced, in my opinion...but it's really all relative to you, the buyer.  

Yes, 200 made for both the SAS Classic and the SA M-7 Classic fixed stock.  If you like the gun and can swing it financially, go for it.  In my opinion, I'd buy two nice rifles, mags and ammo.

Bud
1/4/2007 8:44:18 AM EDT
[#2]
Thanks for the info.  I am torn right now on what to do.  Part of me says go for the Classic and spend a ton or get 1 or 2 cheaper ones and horde some ammo and mags.  I hate being indecisive.
1/4/2007 10:02:41 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I am in the market for another Ak or two and I don't have anything milled yet.  I was checking out some AK's on gunbroker and I came across a NIB Arsenal SAS Classic M-7 UF for damn near $1600.  I like the gun but 1600 for an AK seems kinda steep to me.  I did a search here on the SAS and didn't come up with anything useful so I tried to archive and I got a message to contact the admin and an error occured.  So basically I need to be schooled on this particular AK.  Is their any collector value and was there really only 200 of these made?  IF I get one I plan on shooting it regardless.  I was thinking for that price I just as well get 2 Slr-95s or something.


Unfortunately, Arsenal is not producing milled rifles, so the costs are sky-rocketing.  Classic SAS models ran for around $1100.00-1250.00 depending on condition, who was selling, etc.  $1600 is way overpriced, in my opinion...but it's really all relative to you, the buyer.  

Yes, 200 made for both the SAS Classic and the SA M-7 Classic fixed stock.  If you like the gun and can swing it financially, go for it.  In my opinion, I'd buy two nice rifles, mags and ammo.

Bud


I have a Vector Milled underfolder - it goes about $900 - it looks about the same and is as well put together as my milled arsenal (as far as I can tell thus far).

Just another option for you.

1/4/2007 10:29:01 AM EDT
[#4]
If I had the extra $$ I'd buy the classic as well.
1/4/2007 2:00:26 PM EDT
[#5]
For a similar price, maybe even less, I'd buy a Polytech Legend. Damn good rifle. I've never fired an SAS or SA M-7, so I can't say anything as to its quality. My Legend underfolder, however, is one fine, accurate rifle and more collectible since it is 100% Chinese made.  
1/4/2007 2:36:49 PM EDT
[#6]
The SAS or M7 are special models that is why they are so expensive, but there are plenty of alternative milled AKs out there for A LOT less than 1600$. The Vector is one, A Mak-90 that you convert youself is another, the Chinese banned can be had for a lot less than $1500, the SLR-95 or 93 are also milled, and also i think the regular 7.62 arsenals that were not "special models" are also around for about $700 to $800.
Also consider getting a VEPR with the RPK receiver.
1/4/2007 3:52:22 PM EDT
[#7]
whats wrong with the vector line of milled ak's that atlantic firearms is selling?
1/4/2007 4:13:46 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I am in the market for another Ak or two and I don't have anything milled yet.  I was checking out some AK's on gunbroker and I came across a NIB Arsenal SAS Classic M-7 UF for damn near $1600.  I like the gun but 1600 for an AK seems kinda steep to me.  I did a search here on the SAS and didn't come up with anything useful so I tried to archive and I got a message to contact the admin and an error occured.  So basically I need to be schooled on this particular AK.  Is their any collector value and was there really only 200 of these made?  IF I get one I plan on shooting it regardless.  I was thinking for that price I just as well get 2 Slr-95s or something.


If you can find an SLR95 in good shape SNAG IT!
They are 100% Bulgarian and worth spending some $$ to de-thumbhole.
1/4/2007 4:20:03 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
whats wrong with the vector line of milled ak's that atlantic firearms is selling?


Probably nothing except they are pricey.  $850 seems a bit much considering most people were saying $899 was to high for a SAM7 carbine that was on sale here locally (also milled).
1/4/2007 4:46:44 PM EDT
[#10]
I also recommend the Polytech Legend
As a current owner of 2, I am more
than satisfied.
1/4/2007 5:04:33 PM EDT
[#11]
SAM7 vs. Polytech.

http://members.cox.net/badtaiwanese69/pages/polytech_arsenal.htm
1/4/2007 5:58:54 PM EDT
[#12]
SAM7 vs. Polytech.

http://members.cox.net/badtaiwanese69/pages/polytech_arsenal.htm



Quite an Informative Comparison!!

Maybe I'll have to buy an
Arsenal SA-M7 now...



1/4/2007 6:01:21 PM EDT
[#13]
Let me know if you find any online stores offering new ones.  I can't find any.
1/4/2007 7:47:48 PM EDT
[#14]
Russian Type III UF kit+Firing Line milled rec+DuraCoat+Z-Recto wood restoration=$1125 invested.




1/4/2007 8:17:40 PM EDT
[#15]
Thanks for all the advice and comments.  I think I am going to try and pick up a SLR95 for now if I can find one, I passed up a nice one last year and bought a Yugo instead.  I am hoping to get my hands on one with in the next week or two.  I certainly will post pics of whatever I end up with.  Who knows maybe I'll "get both".  
1/5/2007 2:21:05 AM EDT
[#16]
Corso0331,
Good luck on your search. I posted the pic and price to give you an idea of the cost of having one done from a kit. A lot of the price is in the reciever and having the threaded barrel installed unless you can do it yourself. This has been an interesting thread as I was unaware of how high the cost  on milled guns has gone up. At the time I had my Russian kit done 1k was a lot of money and I, like you, was pressed to spend the money. Now I am glad I did it and seems that the price is just some above average these days.  
1/5/2007 4:44:12 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:
Corso0331,
Good luck on your search. I posted the pic and price to give you an idea of the cost of having one done from a kit. A lot of the price is in the reciever and having the threaded barrel installed unless you can do it yourself. This has been an interesting thread as I was unaware of how high the cost  on milled guns has gone up. At the time I had my Russian kit done 1k was a lot of money and I, like you, was pressed to spend the money. Now I am glad I did it and seems that the price is just some above average these days.  


Thanks, your AK is really nice.  The only thing I am concerned about is do I spend a ton on the Arsenal Classic and call it a day and try to find a SLR95 later as they seem to be a bit (not much) easier to find?  Like I said I going to get something soon and pics will be up.
1/5/2007 5:13:20 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Corso0331,
Good luck on your search. I posted the pic and price to give you an idea of the cost of having one done from a kit. A lot of the price is in the reciever and having the threaded barrel installed unless you can do it yourself. This has been an interesting thread as I was unaware of how high the cost  on milled guns has gone up. At the time I had my Russian kit done 1k was a lot of money and I, like you, was pressed to spend the money. Now I am glad I did it and seems that the price is just some above average these days.  


Thanks, your AK is really nice.  The only thing I am concerned about is do I spend a ton on the Arsenal Classic and call it a day and try to find a SLR95 later as they seem to be a bit (not much) easier to find?  Like I said I going to get something soon and pics will be up.



Look for a SA-93 if you want the classic look.
1/5/2007 5:48:31 AM EDT
[#19]
I picked this milled MAK90 up at a local gunshow for $385, spent about $100 on the Ironwood furniture, and about another $60 or $70 for a Zrecto pistol grip and wood finish. I had a SAM7, and this MAK performs just as well.....



1/5/2007 1:14:28 PM EDT
[#20]
+1 MAK 90 Milled
1/5/2007 2:41:05 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
Thanks for all the advice and comments.  I think I am going to try and pick up a SLR95 for now if I can find one, I passed up a nice one last year and bought a Yugo instead.  I am hoping to get my hands on one with in the next week or two.  I certainly will post pics of whatever I end up with.  Who knows maybe I'll "get both".  


Great rifles. I converted the post ban to the pre ban style on my old slr95. Nothing like a milled ak
2/13/2007 8:51:04 PM EDT
[#22]
Well, I finally got one.  It's an Arsenal SA M-7 A1.  This is my first milled Ak and I really like it so far.   The previous owner stated it was never fired and from what I see it has not been.  The stock and hand guards have been changed out with nice blonde wood.  My only gripe is I wish it had a slant brake.  

I bought it about 2 weeks ago and just got around to shooting it on Sunday.  Compared to my Yugo and my late SAR1, this rifle is a dream to shoot.  I am really looking forward to picking up another Arsenal in the future.  Here's the pics I promised although they aren't that good.





2/13/2007 10:05:38 PM EDT
[#23]
Very nice
2/14/2007 5:19:06 PM EDT
[#24]
Nice rifle. Love the blond furniture.
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