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Posted: 10/5/2006 10:01:45 PM EDT
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id like your opinion on what yall think about gun cleaning stands like this one Tipton Gun Vise thinkin about getting it but its 40 bucks, but i wanna know if yall use such a thing or make one yourself or what. and i heard dry firing is bad, why? should i get these Snap Caps which are somewhat expensive?? thanks in advance for all your feedback |
| I got a Tipon gun vise and it's worth every penny. It's make working and cleaning rifles a lot easier. Almost like having 3 hands. As for the snap caps, I use them too. They have lots of uses like if you have some feeding or ejecting issues you you can put a couple in the mag and work your bolt to see where the issues are. Lot safer than using live ammo to check a feed issue. |
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sorry, unless you are missing an arm or hand or are doing precise work on the firearm, a gun stand is not needed--get a good cleaining kit, mags and ammo instead dry firing is NOT bad on most modern firearms; h/w, it can be bad for certain rimfires and shotguns and a few other kinds of HGs/rifles--check your user's manual dry firing AKs, ARs, 1911s, Glocks, 10/22s, and most military rifles, etc is fine why? b/c when you release the firing pin, it has nothing to release its force/energy on (i.e: a primer), except on the edges of itself on the breach face which stops the firing pin (origionally the job of a primer) you could end up breaking the firing pin or damaged breach face PS: dont dry fire a compound bow |
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If you feel having something to hold your gun while you work on it would be helpful, then I would go for it. I don't have or need one, but I can think of situations where they would come in handy, especially if you build. You don't need the snap caps, but as the poster above said, they're nice for troubleshooting. When I got my (kit built bastardized) 1911, it didn't feed right. All it needed was some feed ramp work. It wouldv'e been nice to have some snap caps around. Of course you posted in the AK forum, so there should be no troubleshooting to do.  Dry firing is not bad. At least not for an AK or most guns for that matter. You dry fire every time you empty the mag. There are a fe guns that it's not good for. The CZ-52 is known to have a firing pin that will break if you dry fire it. Some people say you shouldn't dry fire .22s, but again, every time you empty the mag on a 10/22, you dry fire. I bet it's fine on a 10/22. |
| I can say with some certainty that dry firing an AR type rifle is A-OK, in basic training we were taught to do dime/washer drills to improve trigger control. That is taking a dime or similar size/weight washer place it balanced on the barrel of the rifle and pull the trigger without dropping the dime/washer. Anybody on this side of the site will tell you that there is nothing a raggedy Army M16 can do that an AK can't do better. |
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Those snap caps sound like a good deal. I paid 5 or 6 bucks for 5 of the orange plastic snap caps, and after cycleing them through the rifle half a dozen times they were useless due to them having the rim of the cases sheered off by the ejector. Get those, they are made of metal. If you built AK's from kits they are safer the using live rounds to do a check. |
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