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8/15/2006 2:48:05 PM EDT
Looking at the options for muzzle breaks/flash hiders for ak's, I am wondering what actually does the most to reduce muzzle jump and felt recoil?

I'm doing my muzzle break as a compliance part on my build, so I have to be able to buy something US made, which pretty much limits me to slant breaks and 74 style breaks, or anything else you know of that works from a US manufacturer.

So to all of you that have played around with this and have an opinion, lets here it.  
8/15/2006 2:56:22 PM EDT
[#1]
I assume you're referring to a 7.62x39 rifle since you mentioned the slant brake.  Personally, I prefer the slant brake on my 7.62x29 AK's.  Not only are they "correct" for the rifle, but I've had a 74-style brake on a 7.62 AK and it seemed to do nothing other than make the rifle much louder for the shooter.  

I don't consider the 7.62x39 to have much recoil or muzzle rise, so the slant brake is my choice.
8/15/2006 2:58:27 PM EDT
[#2]
I have read that the 74 style muzzle attachment is the best there is for reducing recoil. I have no first hand experience though.
8/15/2006 7:03:18 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I assume you're referring to a 7.62x39 rifle since you mentioned the slant brake.  Personally, I prefer the slant brake on my 7.62x29 AK's.  Not only are they "correct" for the rifle, but I've had a 74-style brake on a 7.62 AK and it seemed to do nothing other than make the rifle much louder for the shooter.  

I don't consider the 7.62x39 to have much recoil or muzzle rise, so the slant brake is my choice.


Agree. 74-style brake also made my AK longer. Took it off and put slant back on.
8/15/2006 8:13:20 PM EDT
[#4]
The US made 14x1 '74 type brakes don't work as well as the OEM versions.

For muzzle control, a slant compensator can't be beat (assuming you're right handed).

For recoil reduction, an AK-103 type setup is excellent.
8/16/2006 12:33:49 AM EDT
[#5]
Ill have a few new options listed in the next couple weeks. I also have a variety of nice muzzle devices not found elsewhere.

www.MidwestArmory.com
8/16/2006 9:30:37 AM EDT
[#6]
The 14/1 thread brakes seem to all be ported to the paddles but lack the inner baffles of the true 74 design. Way easier to install on a plain bbl, but subjectively half as effective as the real 74 type. If you take the 24mm thread adaptor plunge, ak-103.com makes great US copies with 7.62 holes.
8/16/2006 10:18:05 AM EDT
[#7]
Thedukeryan, maybe I'm missing something on your site, but why are the G2 trigger groups listed twice? Is one for the 47 and one for the 74? You seem to have the best deal on trigger groups, and a compliance break to boot makes it even better, but I gotta know whats what before I order.
8/16/2006 10:55:36 AM EDT
[#8]
Thedukeryan:  I really like the 3-prong, and birdcage flash suppressors...but do you have any, or know of any that are threaded for 1/2 x 28 RH AR threads?
8/16/2006 11:10:28 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
The 14/1 thread brakes seem to all be ported to the paddles but lack the inner baffles of the true 74 design. Way easier to install on a plain bbl, but subjectively half as effective as the real 74 type. If you take the 24mm thread adaptor plunge, ak-103.com makes great US copies with 7.62 holes.


+1

 The 74 design is the best, But it has to have the Baffels or it is useless, and only AK-103.com and Kreb's make a U.S. made 74 Design with Baffles.
8/16/2006 2:07:51 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
Thedukeryan, maybe I'm missing something on your site, but why are the G2 trigger groups listed twice? Is one for the 47 and one for the 74? You seem to have the best deal on trigger groups, and a compliance break to boot makes it even better, but I gotta know whats what before I order.

I have single hooks & double hooks. If your not sure which one you need the below pics should help





Quoted:
Thedukeryan:  I really like the 3-prong, and birdcage flash suppressors...but do you have any, or know of any that are threaded for 1/2 x 28 RH AR threads?

I dont have any but if you browse the Ar equipment exchange your sure to find some somewhere. I might just to have to order some in the near furture.
8/16/2006 6:09:08 PM EDT
[#11]
Thanks for the illustration, but its not quite what I ment. I don't actually have the reciever yet, only the parts kit. My FEG SA 85 parts kit came with a single hook, so I'll probably just stick with single hook for the compliance parts.

When you open the page, the first item listed is an AK G2 parts set w/ free slant break, then a 74 style break is listed, then the G2 trigger components w/ slant break again.

I might just be having some total brain fart here, or maybe I'm not reading something, or maybe their the same thing listed twice and it doesn't matter. Sorry if I'm just missing something obviouse.
8/16/2006 6:14:49 PM EDT
[#12]
Did someone break their muzzle and want to fix it now?
8/16/2006 7:08:25 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Thanks for the illustration, but its not quite what I ment. I don't actually have the reciever yet, only the parts kit. My FEG SA 85 parts kit came with a single hook, so I'll probably just stick with single hook for the compliance parts.

When you open the page, the first item listed is an AK G2 parts set w/ free slant break, then a 74 style break is listed, then the G2 trigger components w/ slant break again.

I might just be having some total brain fart here, or maybe I'm not reading something, or maybe their the same thing listed twice and it doesn't matter. Sorry if I'm just missing something obviouse.

I guess thats what I get for not paying attention. I listed the same thing twice on accident. Thanks for the heads up I will remove the extra to help clean the front page up a little. No reason having both of them since they are the exact same this as you originally mentioned. For some reason I thought you where talking about the single hook & double hooks but I guess Im the one having the brain fart & not you
8/16/2006 7:16:43 PM EDT
[#14]
I am a big fan of the AMD 65 style break.  Decreases recoil but increases noise level...as is the case with most muzzle brakes.
8/16/2006 8:47:40 PM EDT
[#15]
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Quoted:
Thedukeryan:  I really like the 3-prong, and birdcage flash suppressors...but do you have any, or know of any that are threaded for 1/2 x 28 RH AR threads?

I dont have any but if you browse the Ar equipment exchange your sure to find some somewhere. I might just to have to order some in the near furture.


Thanks for the tip.  I did find some different style AR brakes the other day...but it said that they were bored for the .223 round.  I dont know if it would be large enough opening for a 7.62 to fit through...?
8/17/2006 7:42:25 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Thanks for the tip.  I did find some different style AR brakes the other day...but it said that they were bored for the .223 round.  I dont know if it would be large enough opening for a 7.62 to fit through...?


No...it wouldn't be large enough for 7.62 bullet.  
8/17/2006 11:08:52 AM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:



Quoted:
Thedukeryan:  I really like the 3-prong, and birdcage flash suppressors...but do you have any, or know of any that are threaded for 1/2 x 28 RH AR threads?

I dont have any but if you browse the Ar equipment exchange your sure to find some somewhere. I might just to have to order some in the near furture.


Thanks for the tip.  I did find some different style AR brakes the other day...but it said that they were bored for the .223 round.  I dont know if it would be large enough opening for a 7.62 to fit through...?

You would need to drill it out for 7.62
8/17/2006 1:40:58 PM EDT
[#18]

The US made 14x1 '74 type brakes don't work as well as the OEM versions.

For muzzle control, a slant compensator can't be beat (assuming you're right handed).

For recoil reduction, an AK-103 type setup is excellent.



+1.
8/17/2006 2:16:17 PM EDT
[#19]
 I have a AK74 break from Midwest on my 47'. I can not speak for all mock-AK74 breaks, but there seems to be a reduction in recoil and muzzle rise (on faster fire), along with an increase in the muzzle blast (over a the slant break, heck this could be mostly due to the extra weight and the change in ballance of the weapon).  

 All that said, I have never considered the 7.62x39 to be a thumper of a round anyway, so this difference is small.
8/17/2006 4:35:18 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Did someone break their muzzle and want to fix it now?


Interesting point. But give 'em a break - not everyone even has a muzzle brake.
8/18/2006 5:40:43 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
I am a big fan of the AMD 65 style break.  Decreases recoil but increases noise level...as is the case with most muzzle brakes.


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8/18/2006 6:11:23 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
For muzzle control, a slant compensator can't be beat (assuming you're right handed).


I've wondered about this since I am a left-handed shooter.  Personally I'm thinking of getting a Smith Enterprises Vortex for my M70AB2.
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