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Posted: 5/14/2006 10:26:55 PM EDT
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I've normally lived in the woods all my life, being a West Virginian... but then I went to college, and graduated, and all that... and now, to shoot, I must go to a shooting range... Last time I went, I noticed that my AK likes to spit spent casings approximately 2 stations over at the range... to the outward annoyance of fellow shooters. What do you guys do about this when the range is relatively packed? Just not shoot from the bench? My solution was to just move up and shoot where my casings would reflect off of a support beam back into me... Or should I just have fun peppering them with casing-rain because I don't like their goofy little firearms? ;) |
It's simple!! Just use the hand on your third arm to catch the brass before it flys too far! When you are shooting from the bench, use your banjo case to deflect the casings so as not to annoy the other shooters!!  Seriously though, when this happens to me i woudl just take the far right positoin on the range so my brass would not be bouncing off of other shooters runs or equipment. If you do it enough times and to the wrong shooter, say, the gun club president's custom .375 H&H Dakota rifle, i think it might be the last time you are welcome with your rifle at that range, member or not. You make the bed you must sleep in ...Remember that. Juat kidding about the third arm and banjo...Couldnt resist... KyARGuy |
I guess it all depends on where the hot brass/steel lands... Day by Day |
You can adjust the angle that the brass comes out, you should be able to adjust it so it goes out forword of the benches. Don't have the links right now maybe some one else does. |
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Good ideas... I will probably use the stacked ammo can thing... My first idea was the far right bench, but, someone was already there... I hope you guys don't really have misconceived notions about the average west virginian... we're not all hilljacks, inbred mutants, moonshiners, and banjo toting rednecks... most of us do carry at least a slight elizabethan/appalachian accent tho... You guys prolly know how poor states go, though... I'm just happy to live someplace like here when SHTF rather than being caught in a cluster funk like a big city might become... plus, like everyone here has a gun or two, and I can speak redneck, hilljack, homeboy, so, I'm set. ;) thanks for the range tips, gentlemen. btw, what are the language rules for this site? |
| I saw a pic of a rig where a guy had a square piece of leather draped over the action of his rifle, tied round the receiver with two pieces of rope. As long as it doesn't snag on the charging handle, it makes a cheap brass deflector that puts your spent shells right at your feet. |
My opinions of you guys are well concieved, you all have one leg shorter than the other!  Actually my dad is from WV, he was born and raised in St. Albans and Hurricane. As far as chucking brass goes, I am a bit sensitive about doing it. When the range is really busy I either try and get to the far right side, or at least try and get to the left ofa couple of other people shooting semis. Generally I only go to the range when I know it will be empty, but that is not possible for everybody. The main thing I have found is that if you are polite and don't come across as a jerk, folks will understand. Of course once in a while you are going to run across a bambi killer who believes that he not only has the god given right to have his Rem 700 deer slayer, but to tell you to turn in your useless gas gun, because it isn't good for nothing. Another good thing about WV is that it seems like everybody thier has an SKS or MAK90. |
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I had a guy go to the range officer on me one day when I was raining on him. I told him to setup on my left as I was shooting a couple of AK's , but he did not listen. The range officer came down and just asked me to go easy on him and make sure I picked up my spent cases. I seem to remember a Bullet fest and the guy next to me and my buddy getting a 7.62 casing right in the forhead from a CETME. |
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I hit a guy I shoot with in the finger with brass, the one he was holding the gun with. He said it felt at first like his finger was broke. The V51 .308 kicks brass out all most forward; if your hand is at the very rear of the front handguard the brass hits your pinky finger. Feels similar to hitting it with a hammer.  |
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I have a tendency to get a little rambo sometimes... I like to practice shooting fast and shifting targets quickly... sometimes from the hip, sometimes from the shoulder... I'll usually put 1 or 2 in each target and try to empty my clip and hit everything semi-accurately as fast as possible... trying to up my target acquisition/lining up speed... as, I personally feel like this is a more important skill to have than shooting far far away. So, yeah, I tend to drop shell casings on people... fast... and a lot... |
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the PSL is pretty bad about spent caseings as well,...they usually go 5-10 yards high and 15-20 yards away,.. and in a fireing line with a over head cover,..god only knows where that caseing will bounce to. ETA:
i dont know,.. but i am getting a violin case for my Krinkov
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My SA XD45 throws casings to the right and rear. But it tosses them upwards so they generally miss anyone beside me. My SKS's and AKM throw them up and forward to the right. They're never a problem. Most casings go way down range! My Polish P64 mak will hit folks to the right, but the casings are small and cool quickly. My Mausers and MN's are no problem. Work the bolt gently to the rear and the casing just flips out beside you into a pile! Easy clean up there. My PSL though....... That thing is really annoying to anyone on my right side. It throws casing out hard directly sideways and back a bit. And those big casings are hot and stay hot for a good 20 seconds or so. Anyone standing beside me gets hit in the abdomen with hot casings! Luckily my outdoor range has mesh screens between many positions. That stops them. Some guns group their casings as accurately as their bullets. I had a guy next to me shooting a Glock that tossed each 9mm casing high to the right right over the wall and they all landed square on my bald head and then dropped on the table in front of me. After a few dozen perfectly aimed casings like that on my head I almost couldn't stop laughing. He had no idea what was happening since he couldn't see through the wall. I just worked to appreciate the humor of it and try to keep my own shots on target. He was a lEO shooting for quals so I didn't show him what was happening until he finished. (He was pretty emabarrassed once I told him. But then he saw the humor in it too.) But my son and my buddy behind me were just about dying they were laughing so hard. Later at lunch they wanted to find me a ball cap with a basket on top so I could catch brass better. I've seen very few folks complain about tossed casings where I shoot. Many of the folks there shoot AR and AK's and other semi auto guns that spray alot of casings. So far that I see we all seem to take the same attitude. That is that getting casings rained on you is just part of being at a range. You learn to ignore it and concentrate on your own shooting. Perhaps this is because we have such a huge percentage of military and retired military and LEO's where I live. I haven't run into any range sissys yet. |
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When I shoot one of my, AK,AR,Cetme etc.. I try to remain as courteous as possible. I hit my best friend with a Cetme casing, he was at the other end of the range, it left one heck of a mark on his nose. It's not funny one bit to get hit by a casing, it is ignorant to think that it is. A bit of courtesy goes along way in our hobby. |
Whoa... a little too serious on that one, brother... relax... it's just a little casing. I must be ignorant because I think it is kinda funny sometimes.  I think it's important to be as easygoing as possible in our hobby... getting uptight/upset over small things is really not cool... in any situation, really, but especially one wherein you're holding a firearm capable of spitting my bones out my back. Now I'm gonna go to the range and rain casings on someone by accident and get myself shot, just watch. |
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I dont get bothered too much by getting hit my casings.... If I came after the person raining on me, and it starts bothering me...I will usually just move. And I feel the same...If I am the only person at the range and there are 9 other open benches..and you take the one next to me.....You have no right to ask me to not shoot hot brass at you...But it seems like all my AKs shoot the brass way down range anyways... I do know some people that are VERY anal about watching where peoples brass goes and WILL NOT set anywhere near where brass is falling. I once saw a guy get a 5.56 casing stuck in between the chinstrap of his kevlar and is cheek....It left a nice little burn perfectly shaped like a 5.56 casing.....Even people that didnt know what heppened where like "Man that burn looks like a bullett" 
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No barriers at my range so getting hit by casings is regular and somewhat expected when it's crowded. I've done the raining and been rained on before. Only once did it get to me, but that's the way it goes. I'd just finished a super nice Ironwood maple stockset in honey blonde for my SA-85m. First time out, a guy set up to my left with a -74 of some type. Well I was shooting my Bulgarian and had my Hungarian laying in the clamshell case with the lid open and it got pegged. I guess that first ding has to happen sometime. 
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My range has these cool screens that you hang from the roof to deflect your brass. They work really well. |
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I used to shoot flintlocks a lot. When I was at a range I'd always ask whoever was on the far right side if they'd switch positions with me. Occasionally I'd get someone that said no, so I'd just shoot where I was. Every time that I fired the guy on my right would always ask to switch with me. Before long I was on the far right.
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One of the funniest things I seen was a guy bump firing and his brass going toward a guy's truck. The owner of the truck was standing there protecting his truck by swatting away hot brass very quickly. It happened again and the guy swatting the brass was pretty quick and it looked like it was burning his hands. Kind of like standing in line at the store and someone drops a jar of of something and it breaks it not funny but it is. |
Thats why you gotta be the most heavily armed at the range...or atleast a good mix at accuracy and speed at engaging multiple targets that are firing back at you... Theres a good way to see how youll act when the shit hits the fan. Go to the range and shoot at someone....I bet everyone will unload on you...A little ducka nd run action going on there. And the story about the guy pulling a Karate Kid on the brass flying at his truck cracked up...But he would have to be fast to block brass that was bumped......Reflexes like a cat.....and burnt hands too... |
Well Rambo, I think it is a big deal when someone can't show some common courtesy at a range. It creates animosity between shooters. Don't forget that the old guy with the deer rifle next to you has the right to be there too. If someone deliberately showered me with their brass I would collect it and feed it to them. |
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