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Posted: 3/3/2006 7:33:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 7:34:07 PM EDT by Dorsai]
I was doing some searching on the Mk18 Mod0 CQBR and came across this picture. I'm posting it here as it looks like an eastern European uniform and name tag. Is this Russian? Is he (horror of horrors) using an Mr instead of an AK74?

Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:02:41 PM EDT
Me thinks Airsoft!


Brick
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:04:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 8:10:37 PM EDT by Morning_Wood]
He's Israeli. What i haven't figured out is why is Mr. NANA using his NVG during the daylight? Or did he just get whited out by a camera flash. TG for filters.
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 8:37:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/3/2006 8:37:34 PM EDT by Chris_1522]
I play airsoft. That's no airsoft gun. They don't have bolt carriers behind the ejection covers. Besides most airsofters wouldn't be smart enough to open the ejection cover ;).
Link Posted: 3/3/2006 9:02:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Morning_Wood:
He's Israeli. What i haven't figured out is why is Mr. NANA using his NVG during the daylight? Or did he just get whited out by a camera flash. TG for filters.


Those are P's, not N's. N in cyrillic is H.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 12:45:46 AM EDT

Originally Posted By ozone_00:

Originally Posted By Morning_Wood:
He's Israeli. What i haven't figured out is why is Mr. NANA using his NVG during the daylight? Or did he just get whited out by a camera flash. TG for filters.


Those are P's, not N's. N in cyrillic is H.



And the first character looks more like a Cyrillic "L". It's got the subtle curve in the lower left corner. "LAPA..."? Hmmmm, come to think of it, that forth character could be a Cyrillic "D". "LAPD"? --NoJoe
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 5:40:35 PM EDT
Far as the carbine goes, it looks like a 1998 or 1999 production Colt. Only thing odd about it is the riveted on front swivel.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 6:22:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2006 6:29:38 PM EDT by kythri]

Originally Posted By Chris_1522:
I play airsoft. That's no airsoft gun. They don't have bolt carriers behind the ejection covers. Besides most airsofters wouldn't be smart enough to open the ejection cover ;).



Yes, they do.

From images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=airsoft+ar:



Originally from aegworld.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/ar151.gif, but Tripod is poopy about linking from off-site. Airsoft crap for sale at aegworld.tripod.com/index.html.

Five minutes on Google Image Search, and poof, an airsoft with a bolt carrier behind the ejection cover.

I can't claim with any certainty that the dork with nightvision is or isn't holding an airsoft gun, but I'd bet it is.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:15:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/4/2006 9:15:55 PM EDT by VinnieBoomBah]
I'm going airsoft. It looks like it has two extra pins at 12 and 3 from the safety, and the brass deflector has no skidmark, only the edges rubbed silver. Or I'm full of it. One or the other.
Link Posted: 3/4/2006 9:49:44 PM EDT
His helmet looks like US kevlar.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 6:41:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By VinnieBoomBah:
I'm going airsoft. It looks like it has two extra pins at 12 and 3 from the safety, and the brass deflector has no skidmark, only the edges rubbed silver. Or I'm full of it. One or the other.



I am too.

going airsoft..........or full of it.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 6:47:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By NoJoe:

Originally Posted By ozone_00:

Originally Posted By Morning_Wood:
He's Israeli. What i haven't figured out is why is Mr. NANA using his NVG during the daylight? Or did he just get whited out by a camera flash. TG for filters.


Those are P's, not N's. N in cyrillic is H.



And the first character looks more like a Cyrillic "L". It's got the subtle curve in the lower left corner. "LAPA..."? Hmmmm, come to think of it, that forth character could be a Cyrillic "D". "LAPD"? hr


Nope those are p's
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 6:50:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/5/2006 6:52:36 AM EDT by APBullet]



Air soft has and auto sear pin hole?
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 7:00:07 AM EDT
Like I said before, looks real to me, but I don't know nothing about airsoft. Does airsoft have those gas relief ports in the carrier like this one?

Those are not extra pins around the selector, those are the roll markings.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 7:47:46 AM EDT
How about the external switch plugged into the back of the laser? Looks kind of cheesy.. Airsoft, or real?
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 8:00:17 AM EDT
The camo is a russian pattern, Kamysh I believe it's called. Maybe Ivan is training with fancy bourgeois rifles?
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 8:02:35 AM EDT
Doesn't look like Kamysh... It looks like greek lizard.. which would explain the cyrrilic looking symbols..
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 8:20:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By APBullet:


Air soft has and auto sear pin hole?img204.imageshack.us/img204/7786/eta120ob.jpg



Looks real to me.
Blammo!!!
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 8:26:45 AM EDT

Originally Posted By FW200:
Doesn't look like Kamysh... It looks like greek lizard.. which would explain the cyrrilic looking symbols..



I think you're right, I was sure it was Kamysh!

http://www.shape.nato.int/shape/graphics/2005/10/06/b051006j.jpg

Found this pic, it's definitely easy to confuse the two with the similar lettering and camo.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 9:27:44 AM EDT
Airsoft M16 mags dont wear like the one in his M4. They're painted and it just flakes off, not wear down to metal coloring like his is. Also, the bolt carrier is oiled pretty well, while an airsoft one would be dry. Maybe the wire out the back of the laser is an attachment for a optional pressure switch.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 12:08:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/5/2006 12:09:26 PM EDT by kythri]
I'll concede that the camo does look Greek (though SERIOUSLY faded), and the nametape kinda works for that (Papadopolous, Papazoglou, Papagiorgiou, the list goes on).

Rifle still looks goofy, though.

I'm still leaning towards Airsoft, with some well-used imported surplus Greek BDU's. Compare how faded the proposed airsofter's gear is, to these guys (not to mention the Greek use of G3's. Don't they still use them, or have the switched to the AR platform?):










The helmet also doesn't look right for the Greeks - someone pointed out that it looked like a PASGT helmet, which it does, with a different cover.

The helmet's that these guys are wearing are markedly different:



Link Posted: 3/5/2006 12:16:47 PM EDT
Alrighty, I'll correct myself.

I've found some other photos over at www.defencetalk.com/pictures/index.php/cat/4223 that seem to indicate that the Hellenic Army is migrating (or has migrated) to the AR-based platform.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 2:23:24 PM EDT
look how solid the IR is bolted down on that AR, usually airsoft setups are just to hold a larger battery, and the delta ring looks metal to me, the pictures of the airsoft AR's the delta ring looks kinda dark black and shiney. if thats Airsoft its one hell of a copy.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 3:23:29 PM EDT
That's not Russian on the patches
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 3:36:59 PM EDT
Looks like in the pic, I see a gas tube, going into the upper receiver right by the delta ring. Airsoft doesn't have a gas tube.
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 5:17:37 PM EDT
Weapon is real

(1) AutoSear Pin
(2) Roll marking for all 3 positions
(3) Weapon is on SAFE based on line pointing UP
(4) Gas Tube seen between Delta Ring and Upper receiver
Link Posted: 3/5/2006 5:44:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By DrugRunR:
Weapon is real

(1) AutoSear Pin Airsofts have these
(2) Roll marking for all 3 positions Airsofts have these, they also have Colt, RRA, Armalite logo's
(3) Weapon is on SAFE based on line pointing UP It is pointing up, which mean Fire-AR15 or Semi-M16
(4) Gas Tube seen between Delta Ring and Upper receiver Only difference, visible.

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