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Posted: 1/16/2006 12:37:14 PM EDT
Sure kicks like a magnum!
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 12:39:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 7:48:09 PM EDT
ahhh the little blue box of pain

i usually save the silver bear's for when i carry. when im at the range punching holes in paper,..or whatever is out there i just go with a regular FMJ.


BTW. you can order new heavier springs from Makarov .com to help with the recoil,...i have a pair of 19lb springs on the way,....ill let you know how much they help once i get them.


what kinda Makarov(s) you got?
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 7:49:17 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/16/2006 7:58:38 PM EDT
992-1037 fps according to North Bender who did extensive testing on a ton of various brands. Pretty hefty performance for a 115 gr bullet. Factory (Russian military) load is 1037 fps with a 94gr bullet. Very few fmj brands can meet the factory spec.

For about the best stats on 9x18 ammo, see:

www.gunboards.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=110185
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 2:39:15 PM EDT
I have a Bulgarian...I save the Silver Bears for defense also, I maily shoot Wolf. Much milder!
Link Posted: 1/17/2006 11:42:21 PM EDT
I also use the Silver Bear 115gr as a defense load in my Mak. I would suggest getting a heavier spring installed as well.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 4:56:50 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Xenogy:
I also use the Silver Bear 115gr as a defense load in my Mak. I would suggest getting a heavier spring installed as well.



+1. I use 21lb springs in all my Maks and they feed/fire everything w/o a bobble.
Tomac
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:24:11 AM EDT
I didn't realize it was a hot load. One afternoon I put 1450 rounds of that Silver Bear through one of my Maks. Wrists hurt a little the next day, but I just thought that was normal. Talk about fun. I really cut my group size down with that much practice.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 11:27:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/18/2006 11:27:49 AM EDT by MauserMark]

Originally Posted By madtrader:
I didn't realize it was a hot load. One afternoon I put 1450 rounds of that Silver Bear through one of my Maks. Wrists hurt a little the next day, but I just thought that was normal. Talk about fun. I really cut my group size down with that much practice.



wow, 1450 rounds in one day through a small handgun and no hiccups?

must be the AK of handguns.

I really need to get one.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 3:17:14 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MauserMark:
Originally Posted By madtrader:

wow, 1450 rounds in one day through a small handgun and no hiccups?

must be the AK of handguns.

I really need to get one.



Not just one day, it was in a couple hours, and I only had 1 mag. My thumb was sore for a week from all the loading. Not a single problem all day, and that gun had had at least 500 rounds through it before that with no cleaning in between.

They are the AK of handguns.
Link Posted: 1/18/2006 8:30:19 PM EDT
i have a russian and bulgy

and today the bulgy was retired as my carry gun for a .45,....after i shot of a few mags out of the new carry gun i unloaded a clip of the silver bear's,...it was just getting dark and man,..talk about feel nice and a killer flash with that fireball off the working end of it

i still have the stock 17lbs springs on both,..as i am awaiting replacements to arrive.

but i have never had any problems with either pistol,..well one in the russian,...bad ammo that need to be struck a second time to fire. but thats the only hiccup i have ever had.

i love my AK's and these little Makarov's are great companions for the rifles i love.
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