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Posted: 1/12/2006 6:44:28 PM EDT
Trying to find out what black to use. I like the satin-gloss on my polish kit but dont really know what their gloss satin and matte finishes look like. Thanks
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 7:18:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/12/2006 7:20:10 PM EDT by jnewt]
Matte black KG GunKote




Satin black KG GunKote




Not a lot of difference, both will turn out great but as you can see, the satin has a bit more shine to it. Sorry if the Satin pic is not to good. I know the two are in different light buts thats all I had...lol...
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 7:26:36 PM EDT
NICE!
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 7:27:23 PM EDT
Does GunKote hold up better than DuraKote? And where can you buy it from?
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 7:46:46 PM EDT
Tag
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 7:47:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/12/2006 7:48:39 PM EDT by Apache659]
You can get Gun Kote here. I don't know if it holds up any better but I'll be finding out in the spring when it's warm enough here to shoot the DuraCoat. So far Gun Kote has worked great for me ...
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 7:59:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/12/2006 8:02:04 PM EDT by StreetTrends]
Thanks for the nice pics JNEWT. Those are some nice builds.
ETA: I paint cars for a living and now the differance with paint I just really didn't know how the discribe their coatings.
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 8:58:11 PM EDT
I have posted these before but, flat:




semi:

Link Posted: 1/12/2006 9:00:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/12/2006 9:01:15 PM EDT by Apache659]
jnewt steered me in the right direction with how to use Gun Kote ...

Not the best pic, matte black ...

Link Posted: 1/12/2006 9:09:12 PM EDT
HOw do you use GUnkote?

Link Posted: 1/12/2006 10:49:17 PM EDT
Prep with 120 grit aluminum oxide, followed by treating with TCE, then perhaps a phosphate coating (optional), then once TCE is evaporated, spray fine layers of GunCoat then bake in oven at 350 for an hour or until your kitchen stinks and maybe do one more coat for good measure. Key is to keep it very thin but prep is the most important. DO NOT USE SILACA BEAD, ask me how I learned that one sometime.
Link Posted: 1/12/2006 10:53:00 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 5:14:16 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Apache659:
jnewt steered me in the right direction with how to use Gun Kote ...

Not the best pic, matte black ...
img58.imageshack.us/img58/5800/maadi19ph.jpg



If you would, please tell me about this gun. I have never seen a gas block/FSB combo before.
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 5:25:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By h8mtv:

Originally Posted By Apache659:
jnewt steered me in the right direction with how to use Gun Kote ...

Not the best pic, matte black ...
img58.imageshack.us/img58/5800/maadi19ph.jpg



If you would, please tell me about this gun. I have never seen a gas block/FSB combo before.



It's very Galil-esqe

Link Posted: 1/13/2006 6:39:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By h8mtv:
If you would, please tell me about this gun. I have never seen a gas block/FSB combo before.



GB/FSB Combo. You can turn the threads down like Krebs does or cut them off, the plunger part on the other side can be dremeled off and filed to shape. Someone used to sell these (K-Var?) without threads but I modified this one to my liking ...
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 8:14:54 AM EDT
Entire rifle refinished in Gunkote Matte Black.





Link Posted: 1/13/2006 11:55:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/13/2006 11:55:26 AM EDT by mutt148]
Gunkote flat black
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 12:23:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/13/2006 12:23:54 PM EDT by MauserMark]

Originally Posted By Creeper:
Prep with 120 grit aluminum oxide, followed by treating with TCE, then perhaps a phosphate coating (optional), then once TCE is evaporated, spray fine layers of GunCoat then bake in oven at 350 for an hour or until your kitchen stinks and maybe do one more coat for good measure. Key is to keep it very thin but prep is the most important. DO NOT USE SILACA BEAD, ask me how I learned that one sometime.



1. What is 120 grit aluminum oxide?

2. What is TCE?
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 12:25:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/13/2006 12:26:16 PM EDT by 1Gunner]
aluminum oxide is your sandblasting medium, don't use glass beads, it just shot peens a nice smooth finish that will never hold a finish

TCE is a cleaner/degreaser
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 12:38:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 1Gunner:
aluminum oxide is your sandblasting medium, don't use glass beads, it just shot peens a nice smooth finish that will never hold a finish

TCE is a cleaner/degreaser



what do you need to sand blast?
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 12:41:50 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MauserMark:

Originally Posted By 1Gunner:
aluminum oxide is your sandblasting medium, don't use glass beads, it just shot peens a nice smooth finish that will never hold a finish

TCE is a cleaner/degreaser



what do you need to sand blast?



A blasting cabinet would be best and they are cheap at HF. And you will need a compressor to go with it.

Link Posted: 1/13/2006 2:18:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/13/2006 2:21:03 PM EDT by Trotsky]
Folks - great photos... but it's IMPERATIVE to say which FORMULA of gunkote you are using... 2400 or 1600 series.

I like the 1600 Teflon based series - here, "flat" is Matte and "semi" is gloss. 1600F will be a ringer for Bulgarian - except that it actually holds up. 1600S will look like an import SA85 - glossy.

Here is my Tantal in 1600F:

http://webpages.charter.net/dfmarino/images/tantal/tantal5.jpg
http://webpages.charter.net/dfmarino/images/tantal/tantal1.jpg
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 2:40:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Trotsky:
Folks - great photos... but it's IMPERATIVE to say which FORMULA of gunkote you are using... 2400 or 1600 series.

I like the 1600 Teflon based series - here, "flat" is Matte and "semi" is gloss. 1600F will be a ringer for Bulgarian - except that it actually holds up. 1600S will look like an import SA85 - glossy.

Here is my Tantal in 1600F:

webpages.charter.net/dfmarino/images/tantal/tantal5.jpg
webpages.charter.net/dfmarino/images/tantal/tantal1.jpg



Good point and damn nice Tantal by the way. =)


I use the 1600 extream teflon for the matte and the 2400 for satin
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 4:15:02 PM EDT
Can you just use Gunkote over a parked finish?? or do you need to blast it off??

FREE
Link Posted: 1/13/2006 4:26:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/13/2006 4:27:57 PM EDT by Apache659]

Originally Posted By MauserMark:
what do you need to sand blast?



A) An air compressor
B) Go to Home Depot and get a Husky sandbaster gun for about $12, an extra screw in type male connector with a hose clamp and a nut that will screw on the connector(nut is in the plumbing dept.), a five gallon bucket and a $6 bag of blasting sand.
Drill a hole in the side of the bucket at the bottom, screw in the air connector and tighten it down with the nut on the inside of the bucket. Attach the black hose that comes with the gun and tighten the hose clamp. Fill bucket with sand.
Voilà -Instant sandblaster for under $20 ...

I use a face shield and a big plastic trash can to catch as much sand as possible for reuse, use a piece of sreening to screen out any debri that gets mixed with your sand ...


Originally Posted By FREEFALLE7:
Can you just use Gunkote over a parked finish?? or do you need to blast it off??



It works best over park, if you can't park first then use K-Phos ...
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